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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Kleenexxx View Post
    BTW

    back to the thread topic

    Ben Dover said it ALL within the first few minutes

    he started in the business when hardcore porn was HARD TO GET HOLD OF.
    and THAT was the main reason he made a good few bob.. people used to pay
    over 50 pound for any H/C VHS under the counter.. and well before his stuff
    became legal in UK, he killed it on mail order with the only decent UK POV

    anyway, it's all merchandising now it seems, least he has a 4x2 running things

    TV show again left me wishing i'd got in 15-20 years earlier
    he had virtually no competition.. same reason Paul Little
    got rich quick & early with physical tape & DVD distribution,
    because now extreme teen hardcore content is ten a penny

    overall, i respected the guy more before i watched the program tbh,
    if he didn't have a pot to piss in, i would understand a career change,
    he should just accept he's infamous instead of trying to go legit famous
    Expect he'll be on that stupid ITV jungle programme next, if he isn't already, along with all the other has beens desperate for TV exposure and "celeb" status.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mOBSCENE View Post
    Expect he'll be on that stupid ITV jungle programme next, if he isn't already, along with all the other has beens desperate for TV exposure and "celeb" status.
    To be honest I do not think he is all that famouse.

    By that even on the show many people had no idea who he is.

    Althou to be honest he has changed.

    He seems to have lost that 80's look he seemed to have had for years.

    And he looked old.

    I am not sure how old he is but I bet he looks older than he is.

    In fact he did not look well.

    His problem is that he has not done mainstream. Ie ron jerramy is well known as he is on tv all the time. plus ron geramy is larger than life.

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    I watched it. I like the guy, he seems like an all around nice guy.

    He was wanting a role in a soap opera or something similar, no soap opera is going to take an ex porn star on. I could see him working in comedy shows or as a stand up.
    Kinky Dollars is the only thing that converts anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by SGS View Post
    Well back in the 80's when Lindsey and his wife got 6 months each and we got a 23.000 fine it wasn't all beer and skittles.
    i know he's had plenty of aggy along the way mate,
    he got done at Heathrow once if i recall
    shooting in the multi storey carpark

    agreed it took some nuts to shoot anything more than
    Razzle shit in those days.. attitudes to porn have changed
    dramatically since, particularly since the advent of the web

    so yes, the old boys acted as pioneering xxx minesweepers
    for the rest of us.. but nevertheless they still laughed all the
    way to the bank for a decade pre-web, when physical product
    & distribution was King.. seriously doubt many of them would
    be driving Ferrari's if they started out in the current climate..

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    bottom line.. Ben Dover ain't the sharpist knife in the box imo
    but nevertheless he still had business acumen and took risks
    which defined him as a true old skool porn entrepreneur


    i also empathised with a lot of what he said.. particularly when he mentioned
    that in private a LOT of people knew him, but would never admit to it in public..
    ( same reason no fucker i know wants to add me on fucking Facebook LOL )

    but whenever he encountered anything remotely intellectual
    he dismissed it immediately as "a load of bollocks"
    he may be cock-sure, but he sure ain't brain-sure..

    guy is packed full of insecurities.. he said it himself
    that without his big dick he would probably be struggling..
    regards his aspirations for mainstream stardom.. i think he's
    just afflicted with a severe case of vanity.. he obviously loves
    the limelight..

    personally i think he SHOULD typecast himself in mainstream
    as the stereotypical cockney gangster / pimp / porno guy
    watching him play posh roles was proper cringeworthy..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Kleenexxx View Post
    he got done at Heathrow once if i recall
    shooting in the multi storey carpark
    I know Simon / Lindsay / Steve / Ben on a personal level, and I have a lot of respect for what He's done...

    However (AND I COULD WELL BE WRONG) I think that you may be confusing him with Vinny Curran?

    He shot a sex in public places vid In the late 90's with Georgette O'Neil, next to the miniature Concorde model they have on the main roundabout outside Heathrow...

    But, like I say, I could well be wrong myself

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    Quote Originally Posted by TGITC View Post
    I know Simon / Lindsay / Steve / Ben on a personal level, and I have a lot of respect for what He's done...

    However (AND I COULD WELL BE WRONG) I think that you may be confusing him with Vinny Curran?

    He shot a sex in public places vid In the late 90's with Georgette O'Neil, next to the miniature Concorde model they have on the main roundabout outside Heathrow...

    But, like I say, I could well be wrong myself
    Wasn't that Vince ??????? from Northampton?

    Known Lindsay a long time and he wanted out of porn a long time. As Steve Perryman he shot and directed some of the best porn ever. IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Markham View Post
    Wasn't that Vince ??????? from Northampton?

    Known Lindsay a long time and he wanted out of porn a long time. As Steve Perryman he shot and directed some of the best porn ever. IMO
    Fuck me Paul I guess your not dead then, I was speaking to someone the other day and they wondered where you had gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Markham View Post
    Wasn't that Vince ??????? from Northampton?

    Known Lindsay a long time and he wanted out of porn a long time. As Steve Perryman he shot and directed some of the best porn ever. IMO
    Actually... I think your right. Vince was the talent... But Im sure Vinny was the one shooting it

    I think I know who you mean by Vince, but Im not 100% sure if Im thinking of the right guy... I met a few times in Dudley, Birmingham where he was the talent for a lot of club17 stuff that a guy use to shoot there.

    Cant remember his name either, but he was a huge mountain of a man, but very gently spoken...

    The mind plays tricks these days LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevebougle View Post
    Fuck me Paul I guess your not dead then, I was speaking to someone the other day and they wondered where you had gone.
    Not dead yet. Came very close to it and it's not over yet. I had cancer in the base of my tongue and the specialists opinion in February was my chances were slim. Today they think I will recover due to my never give in character. I find out if the cancer is gone for sure Wednesday week when I get a CT scan.

    The main problems now are linked to not eating since August and very very weak. Have good days and do a little posting on them. Even corrected some pictures last week. Hopefully will be right again by March/April then I will take a holiday and after get back to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TGITC View Post
    Actually... I think your right. Vince was the talent... But Im sure Vinny was the one shooting it

    I think I know who you mean by Vince, but Im not 100% sure if Im thinking of the right guy... I met a few times in Dudley, Birmingham where he was the talent for a lot of club17 stuff that a guy use to shoot there.

    Cant remember his name either, but he was a huge mountain of a man, but very gently spoken...

    The mind plays tricks these days LOL
    Wasn't his name Vinny Price, might be wrong on that. He came from Northampton and found some of the rudest girls ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Markham View Post
    Wasn't his name Vinny Price, might be wrong on that. He came from Northampton and found some of the rudest girls ever.
    Really I cant honestly remember mate. It was the late 90's... I didnt really 'Know' the guy we are talking about... Just met him on multiple occasions.

    This is the incident I am thinking of though...

    Georgette was arrested with Vinnie Curran in Heathrow Airport while making a video in the main car park. The two of them attracted a large audience from a building site on the net car park who cheered. The noise of which attracted the police to investigate resulting in the arrest of herself, Vinnie Curran and Vinnie Curran's father who was acting as the cameraman. She went to court and was ordered to pay a fine and do community service.
    http://dictionary.sensagent.com/georgette+neale/en-en/

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevebougle View Post
    Fuck me Paul I guess your not dead then, I was speaking to someone the other day and they wondered where you had gone.
    I started a new thread with an update. http://www.beerandbollocks.com/forum...485#post284485

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    Quote Originally Posted by TGITC View Post
    Really I cant honestly remember mate. It was the late 90's... I didnt really 'Know' the guy we are talking about... Just met him on multiple occasions.

    This is the incident I am thinking of though...

    http://dictionary.sensagent.com/georgette+neale/en-en/
    Vinnie Curran was the guy. He did the scene for his series of "Sex in Public Places."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Kleenexxx View Post
    BTW

    back to the thread topic

    Ben Dover said it ALL within the first few minutes

    he started in the business when hardcore porn was HARD TO GET HOLD OF.
    and THAT was the main reason he made a good few bob.. people used to pay
    over 50 pound for any H/C VHS under the counter.. and well before his stuff
    became legal in UK, he killed it on mail order with the only decent UK POV

    anyway, it's all merchandising now it seems, least he has a 4x2 running things

    TV show again left me wishing i'd got in 15-20 years earlier
    he had virtually no competition.. same reason Paul Little
    got rich quick & early with physical tape & DVD distribution,
    because now extreme teen hardcore content is ten a penny

    overall, i respected the guy more before i watched the program tbh,
    if he didn't have a pot to piss in, i would understand a career change,
    he should just accept he's infamous instead of trying to go legit famous
    Thats a pretty cool business stratergy he had there!

    I've saw this advertised now for a few weeks, haven't saw it though
    blah

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    never thought i would ever be FULL of admiration for Grandpa Markham..

    but i fucking am now..

    massive respect old chap.. you've got serious backbone..

    now go away.. before the corner of my eye gets all moist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Markham View Post
    Vinnie Curran was the guy. He did the scene for his series of "Sex in Public Places."
    isn't that the ponytail geezer with some wap nickname that was his sidekick ?

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