UK Adult Website Laws - Cont'd

[scoobie]

Wow guys thanks for such a massive response, but here's my situation that I'd like to clarify for you that may help me get a more definitive answer.

1) My websites are straight hardcore, non violent, over 18 adults just fukcing & sucking. There's nothing in them that you can't see in an R18 video.

2) All the sites are hosted in Florida, USA.

3) Payment is collect by CCBIll in Arizona, USA.

I wish to do the follwowing & need to know if I'm going to break any UK laws;

A) I'll upload from London to the servers via FTP in Florida, USA.

B) I wish to accept payment from my processor CCBill, USA into my London bank account.

C) My preview areas of all my websites show hardcore fucking as per an R18 video. Would that be breaking any UK law?

I appreciate all your positive feedback regarding this question. I saw the news article on the BBC website about the sickie that killed a woman, & he was into violent porn website, but that doesn't apply to any of mine. They are all non violent, consentual adults having sex.

As a closing point I need to add that my sites are mainly MPG video websites, that the subscriber pays to download onto his computer. He can then watch them any time he likes.

Hope to hear from you all soon.

[SGS]

You have nothing to worry about. They don't have enough cells to worry about us all.

[dvtimes]

By the way, get a us dollor account. Not becase of any legal problems, just that it can save you cash.

In fact being in the UK makes life easer than in the USA as the laws their are much strickter.

Unless you do child or animal porn or extreame bondage/s&m or sell dvd's within the UK, then you should have no problems.

But may I sugest that you back everything to DVD, thus is you ever do get a call from the old bill, then you have your content on disc. I say that as they may be a pain and take your pc away to look at it.

So always be set up that if the worst happens and the police take your pc away, you can still get on with things.

[mOBSCENE]

Scoobie, There are plenty of UK based websites that have been doing what you intend for years. The police will go after violent porn, bestiality, cp and the like, but hardcore porn with consenting adults is effectively legal to view, publish and sell in the UK (the R18 video case was a trading standards law applying to physical goods, rather than an obscenity law or anything like that). Although like I said, in theory, they could prosecute any of us under the obscene publications act, it would be near impossible to prove that normal hardcore porn is going to "deprave and corrupt" - seeing as it is sold in newsagents and customs don't bat an eyelid when it's imported from abroad, etc, and is now so commonplace and even passed by the BBFC (as long as there's no watersports etc, lol)

I'm not 100% sure what the current situtation with CCBILL and 2257 is, but I would say if you are hosting in the US and using CCBILL as the processor, you would have more to worry about with the US 2257 regulations, than with any potential UK problems, even then nobody's sure to what extent that's going to be enforced etc

As always, free advice is worth exactly what you pay for it - but most of us here are doing similar to what you're doing, if not exactly the same, and there seem to be a lot of us! As discussed, I don't think there's a government line that says "hardcore porn on the internet is legal" but neither is there one that says it isn't. That's the law for you. In the US, porn isn't necessarily legal, it's just that it's protected from prosecution by the free speech statutes...

[Geezer]

Like I said before most if not all have done it at some time. I have always been hosted in US and having been uploading hardcore for years.

Stop worrying just carry on as normal :thumbsup:

[dvtimes]

Lets face it, at the end of the day we are webmasters.

We spend time on the net.

We are the ones who will probably come accross illigal stuff on the net such a child porn or scams, and we are the ones that will report it.

If the police came after us, it would do more harm than good, as soon as people find out webmasters are tagets for police, then webmasters will not be as keen to help the police.

As far as content goes, I suspect your legal.

And if the police want to catch people out for not paying tax, then they would be better off going after people who sell and make a lot of cash on ebay. In truth most webmasters are not rich in the UK.

The people who make the money are con artists (using stolen credit cards), ebay sellers (some who earn big time). These are the people who the police should be after.

Most adult webmasters do it because we are randy sods. If I wanted to earn more money than I do now, I would get a paper round.

[mellenig]

In truth most webmasters are not rich in the UK.

What do you base that on?

[dvtimes]

What do you base that on?Most sites are just small.

Most get the odd sale.

If you have a look at my blog I have someof the top sites: http://ukbabes.thumblogger.com/

What I mean is that USA firms make more. The reason is that they can sell DVD porn with ease.

Most firms that do DVD porn (except probably two) are not making huge cash.

Yes some are making money, but you could probably make more if you open a shop. In fact the ones who are making good cash are the sex shops.

Yes some will be making money, but a lot of us, this is just fun. I do it for fun. Heck if anyone think I am rich, well I have an Audio wich cost me £100.

I know a lot of models that have small sites. If they pull in $200 a month, they think its great.

[mellenig]

Most sites are just small.

Most get the odd sale.

If you have a look at my blog I have someof the top sites: http://ukbabes.thumblogger.com/

What I mean is that USA firms make more. The reason is that they can sell DVD porn with ease.

Most firms that do DVD porn (except probably two) are not making huge cash.

Yes some are making money, but you could probably make more if you open a shop. In fact the ones who are making good cash are the sex shops.

Yes some will be making money, but a lot of us, this is just fun. I do it for fun. Heck if anyone think I am rich, well I have an Audio wich cost me £100.

I know a lot of models that have small sites. If they pull in $200 a month, they think its great.


You generalise too much (most) (us)

Every webmaster I know in the UK doesnt do it for fun, they do it because its a very profitable business which earns a lot of money. The keyword their is business if you dont treat it like one it wont be profitable.

But reading between the lines of your posts I guess you are not in it for the money. :)

[mOBSCENE]

I am in it both for the fun and the money. The bonus is to make profit from something I enjoy, rather than being stuck in a 9-5 rut. It started out as a bit of fun, but looking at my accounts I'm doing rather well, and my accountant will vouch for the fact that I pay tax on my earnings...

[Shandy McAndy]

What do you base that on?

I know some UK webmasters who have who make alot of money. I know a few who work one their own who easily pull £10k a month profit, which is still considered a good wage to some people. Including me

Im sure that to other UK webmasters 10k a month is chicken feed