Is the UK ready for park life?

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4155798.stm

if one was bitchy, one could conclude there is a wish to keep people down by introducing a new lower class. or am i too negative on that?

[JT]

I feel sorry for a young couple trying to get a house round here. Its almost imposibble for anyone to get a house as a first time buyer

[-HF]

but a caravan as substitute? not sure about that solution.

[SGS]

I blame it on the developers.

[dvtimes]

They look nicer than a lot of new big expensive houses.


I cannot see this making a lower class. Go to some (not all) coucill estates where its just crime zone. Kids will be outside smashing cars, parents on drugs.

These park places are above that. And lets face it unless you want to show off and get in debt, these are a great chouse.

I bet a lot of single people will buy them.

Its like most places, if its a nice area, then great, but if you have scum living near you, then it sucks.

[-HF]

They look nicer than a lot of new big expensive houses.

debateable.

I cannot see this making a lower class. Go to some (not all) coucill estates where its just crime zone. Kids will be outside smashing cars, parents on drugs.

and a trailer park will not be like tha tby default? why is that?

These park places are above that.

you mustn't confuse holiday parks that are kept tidy and neat by hired staff with living areas, where everyone is responsible for their own dirt.

And lets face it unless you want to show off and get in debt, these are a great chouse.

i have to suspect you never tried those caravans. we did, twice, as they offer the best way to get something close to an appartement suiting our preferences when staying in the UK. you need a fucking heating blanket in May.

I bet a lot of single people will buy them.

which says nada about the quality, if it's all they can afford.

Its like most places, if its a nice area, then great, but if you have scum living near you, then it sucks.

and we all know trailer parks hardly ever have low lifes in them, right.

[dvtimes]

House prices will not increase, probably decrease due to many factors including interest rates and the cost of oil.

As such people have less cash.

House prices are now valued in the UK at often more than double the realistic price.

At the moment unemployment has also increased.

Theses are bad signs for the UK economy, and first to be hit will be housing.

Often house prices have been increased as often its those who cannot afford to in truth buy, go out and purchase houses. Often I suspect to out-do their friends.

I have been keeping an eye on several properties and have noticed they have not been sold for some time.

For the last few years the UK has been artificially been supported by debt. By now people are hitting the debt wall, where they can no longer get more credit and are strugerling to pay bills.

[dvtimes]

*and a trailer park will not be like tha tby default? why is that?

I say this as people will be bying these. Often council estates are full of people who expect everything for free.

[SGS]

House prices will not increase, probably decrease due to many factors including interest rates and the cost of oil.

As such people have less cash.

House prices are now valued in the UK at often more than double the realistic price.

At the moment unemployment has also increased.

Theses are bad signs for the UK economy, and first to be hit will be housing.

Often house prices have been increased as often its those who cannot afford to in truth buy, go out and purchase houses. Often I suspect to out-do their friends.

I have been keeping an eye on several properties and have noticed they have not been sold for some time.

For the last few years the UK has been artificially been supported by debt. By now people are hitting the debt wall, where they can no longer get more credit and are strugerling to pay bills.


Houses have to go both up and down, thats the way the market works. The bigger the drop the more money there is to be made.

[Elisha Jade]

We looked at moving down south. Only way we could do it is move from our 1 bedroom flat to one of those. We decided to stay here a while longer and work our asses off because i wanted to get another flat or possibly a small house.

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*and a trailer park will not be like tha tby default? why is that?

I say this as people will be bying these. Often council estates are full of people who expect everything for free.

you seriously expect the councils to give away actual mortar and brick and not caravans, as soon as they are entitled to? get real. alone the argument that they can give away 2 to 3 times more space for the same price will be reason enough. and rightly so, from a financial point of view.
additionally, why would someone who pays for their shit have to live in a tin while someone who doesn't gets a proper house? that would work a year, maybe two, then you'd have uproar.

all this idea does is play into the hands of anti-social subjects that will go as far as lobbying for a handful of half dead trees or some old wrecked building to "save their community" (read: save them from young families getting a chance for cheaper housing outside the bigger towns, house them strangers under a bridge instead of having them settle in our lovely village) or other excuses.
there is still enough room to build on, if there weren't those people around, i'm pretty sure of that. also i don't quite see why everyone has to have a house. a nice flat is just as good for starters.

[SGS]

We looked at moving down south. Only way we could do it is move from our 1 bedroom flat to one of those. We decided to stay here a while longer and work our asses off because i wanted to get another flat or possibly a small house.

What area were you looking at?

[Gnat69]

I personally think that it is great for a first time buyer at least to build up credit to buy a brick home in the future....Canada is the same, first time buys have to give up their first born and it is really sad......They really don't look that bad and if you have a creative side you can make it a great first home.....wish we had that here

[-HF]

I personally think that it is great for a first time buyer at least to build up credit to buy a brick home in the future

eh? have you ever seen a caravan after a few years of being used? again i'm speaking holiday park here, where they get serviced and kept in shape by paid staff, as it's supposed to bring in money.

unless you keep doing repairs on it, it's pretyt much worthelss after some years. who will buy it from you?

[-HF]

fuck me sideways, this board needs a spell checker.

[Shandy McAndy]

fuck me sideways, this board needs a spell checker.

Or webmasters who can spell :)

[-HF]

Or webmasters who can spell :)


sya waht? :takethat:

[domd]

I would hope that caravans do not become the 'first step' on the property ladder.

To me buying a home is an investment and i dont see that these sorts of properties would offer that.

The government would be better looking to subsidise housing to some sort of degree to get people on the ladder, however owning a house is not a given right.

Re DVtimes comments on council estates..its the fact that people tend to look after something that they actually own..as opposed to something they simply rent... I also disagree that council estates are full of those who want something for free. I would also say that not everyone buys a house to show off to their friends lol

As to the cost of housing...it very much depends on where you live. Property prices are still considered to be on the rise where i live, however i have seen a drop in the past couple of months.

domd
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[Shandy McAndy]

It all smacks of something we will look back on in 20 years and think, what a mistake it was, just like the tower blocks of the 60's