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couldn't make the 12 pages, thread got closed. :D
couldn't make the 12 pages, thread got closed. :D
Yeah it got to 9 though and still only 2 people agreed with him, fucking hilarious :p
Aaron certainly is a great ambassedor for Sterlingcash,... NOT!, (in my best American accent)
daveydude
08-15-05, 01:15 AM
Ha. I just got home & read all that on Netpond. What fun.
Geezer, you seem like a totally different person on B&B - what gives?
Alf Garnet
08-15-05, 10:52 AM
Ha. I just got home & read all that on Netpond. What fun.
Geezer, you seem like a totally different person on B&B - what gives?
Maybe it is a different person :devil:
Ha. I just got home & read all that on Netpond. What fun.
Geezer, you seem like a totally different person on B&B - what gives?
I am the same person Dave it's just that theres not so many surfers on here.
You can also have a laugh on here without people getting out of their prams, most on here have a good sense of humour and don't take it all too seriously.
I still think my Bruce Forsythe joke was funny, there was no harm meant by it I was just having a laugh :p
Alf Garnet
08-15-05, 11:04 AM
I am the same person Dave it's just that theres not so many surfers on here.
You can also have a laugh on here without people getting out of their prams, most on here have a good sense of humour and don't take it all too seriously.
I still think my Bruce Forsythe joke was funny, there was no harm meant by it I was just having a laugh :p
good game, good game
aaron_sterlingcash
08-15-05, 12:56 PM
geezer I still dont find it funny, yeh u gave me the hump ;)
Its all over with now ok.
dvtimes
08-15-05, 01:04 PM
I am the same person Dave it's just that theres not so many surfers on here.
You can also have a laugh on here without people getting out of their prams, most on here have a good sense of humour and don't take it all too seriously.
I still think my Bruce Forsythe joke was funny, there was no harm meant by it I was just having a laugh :p
What was the joke?
daveydude
08-15-05, 01:11 PM
I am the same person Dave it's just that theres not so many surfers on here.
You can also have a laugh on here without people getting out of their prams, most on here have a good sense of humour and don't take it all too seriously.
I still think my Bruce Forsythe joke was funny, there was no harm meant by it I was just having a laugh :p
Fair enough. I think having a go at someone over their appearance, especially a girl, is pretty low, but it's expected from you on Netpond. Some people thought it was funny, some didn't - c'est la vie.
Fair enough. I think having a go at someone over their appearance, especially a girl, is pretty low, but it's expected from you on Netpond. Some people thought it was funny, some didn't - c'est la vie.
I didn't "have a go" at anyone about thier appearance, I made a joke, nothing more nothing less.
Do you remember when jade12 posted some pics and I said I didn't realise she was a shemale?, she did would I would have done and laughed along.
You must have seen some stand up comedians, they say some pretty "low" things but it's a joke, they mean nothing by it.
So your telling me you have never taken the piss out of someone because of their appearence?, I would find that hard to believe as I'm sure we have all done it.
Next you'll tell me you don't laugh at stutterers or FUCK! people CUNT! with torrets WANK SHIT! :p
daveydude
08-15-05, 02:13 PM
I didn't "have a go" at anyone about thier appearance, I made a joke, nothing more nothing less.
Do you remember when jade12 posted some pics and I said I didn't realise she was a shemale?, she did would I would have done and laughed along.
You must have seen some stand up comedians, they say some pretty "low" things but it's a joke, they mean nothing by it.
So your telling me you have never taken the piss out of someone because of their appearence?, I would find that hard to believe as I'm sure we have all done it.
Next you'll tell me you don't laugh at stutterers or FUCK! people CUNT! with torrets WANK SHIT! :p
Yeah you're right - but I know better than to make jokes about a girls appearance when I know she's listening. Then again, if people are allowing their pics to be posted in the public domain they do need a thick skin.
Then again, if people are allowing their pics to be posted in the public domain they do need a thick skin.
Exactly :thumbsup:
aaron_sterlingcash
08-15-05, 02:21 PM
Maybe thats why I took it so personally as its my fault she did it, I was merely doin some pics esp for the ponders. I didnt expect such an answer, as like dave said on here man you are a different person.
Yeh I do take the piss, but I took that personally, and yes its a double standard but then we are all guilty of that.
Lets say thats an end to it, I hate drama n shit but I am hot tempered and you know what buttons to press geezer ya got me good.
I have/do/will jump all over people that make derogatory comments about the girls that post their pics (you're ugly type comments) But I let joke comments go by. 1 it's joking, and another there's only so many "you're hot/nice pics" type comments you can take in a thread before you need something to break the monotony.
Frankly I HATE pics threads.. and it pisses me off the constant stream of requests/expectations for them - it's like you're a female on a board you have to show your tits. Stuff whether you're a webmaster or other biz worker. You're a woman and so you have to be content/entertain your fellow webmasters with your titty pics. I've ranted on the subject enough. I will defend the girls who do want to post pics. But it shouldn't be expected and or pushed on them.
And I'm actually proud to be one of the "couple of exceptions" (I know I'm one of them) in the "We Love All The Netpond Girls" thread. It means I'm not seen as "one of the girls" which is a GOOD thing IMHO. I'm a webmaster, my gender has fuck all to do with it.
And I'm actually proud to be one of the "couple of exceptions" (I know I'm one of them) in the "We Love All The Netpond Girls" thread. It means I'm not seen as "one of the girls" which is a GOOD thing IMHO. I'm a webmaster, my gender has fuck all to do with it.
considering the thread was started by someone who doesn't grasp the difference between webmaster and businessman, it's doubtful he even knows what he is so spiteful about. :D
aaron_sterlingcash
08-15-05, 06:56 PM
which thread -HF this or mine? Is there a difference between being a webmaster and a business man isnt it one and the same?
Rebel I like and respect you and I know you are one of the stand up and be heard women in the biz, I yet im stuggling to beleive you see his comment as a joke when its clearly a personal attack on her looks, which could be very hurtful, turns out its pissed me off a lot more than it did her.
As I said it was done as a fun for the people of netpond, so I will defend it as such...further to this rebel why does the constant stream of pics threads piss you off?? This is the porn industry afterall what did you expect pics of?
which thread -HF this or mine? Is there a difference between being a webmaster and a business man isnt it one and the same?
dude, you really need to sort out your head. this is the second time you feel a post of mine refers to you when it clearly has nothing to do with you. what's with the paranoia? have you made the "couple of exceptions" comment? there you go.
and to answer your question, i shall give you an example: every dove is a bird, but not every bird is a dove. think about it.
aaron_sterlingcash
08-15-05, 07:11 PM
dude, you really need to sort out your head. this is the second time you feel a post of mine refers to you when it clearly has nothing to do with you. what's with the paranoia? have you made the "couple of exceptions" comment? there you go.
and to answer your question, i shall give you an example: every dove is a bird, but not every bird is a dove. think about it.
Dude I have nothing to sort out, my head is clear and I am far from paranoid!
What are you talking about? 'have you made the "couple of exceptions" comment? there you go.'
Im thinking about the doves as we speak man
daveydude
08-15-05, 07:14 PM
For an issue that's been forgotten, this one is echoing on a bit...
aaron_sterlingcash
08-15-05, 07:24 PM
Yer a bit...over and out!
Dude I have nothing to sort out, my head is clear and I am far from paranoid!
ok, i shall see it as coincidence that you saw 2 replies not even remotely referring to you as aimed at you. :)
P.S.: one reply was on NP last night, just to avoid any further confusion.
which thread -HF this or mine? Is there a difference between being a webmaster and a business man isnt it one and the same?
Rebel I like and respect you and I know you are one of the stand up and be heard women in the biz, I yet im stuggling to beleive you see his comment as a joke when its clearly a personal attack on her looks, which could be very hurtful, turns out its pissed me off a lot more than it did her.
As I said it was done as a fun for the people of netpond, so I will defend it as such...further to this rebel why does the constant stream of pics threads piss you off?? This is the porn industry afterall what did you expect pics of?
Yes I did see it as a joke. But then I've been on the other end of his, and others jokes myself plenty of times, maybe its just that I know that there's no real malice behind them.
I guess I was a bit harsh with hating the pics threads. I understand (and have even recommended to girls before) that the best way to promote themselves is with titty pics. What I strongly dislike is the way it's expected from all of us. And the fact that non-content girls get away with friggin murder just by posting titty pics. I know it's the way of the world. But inequality is the quickest way to get a rise out of me.
As for webmaster versus biz man.. they are more than obviously two different things. I am a webmaster, I build websites, dabble in code, admin the server blah blah blah. I am not and do not consider myself a biz person. I wouldn't have a clue and have absolutely no interest in tracking income and expenditure, returning the taxes, calculating ROI and all that business shit.
My post (and HF's reply) were in regards comments made by Headboy ("couple of exceptions" was something he said in his girls of np thread) He's also made plenty of comments in the past about HF not being in the biz and just riding on my tailcoats, because he doesn't understand the fact that webmaster and businessman are not the same. I'm the webmaster, HF is the bizman, it is a symbiotic partnership, without either of us (although HF knows more about being a webmaster than I know about being a business woman lol)it wouldn't be an "adult business". There are also plenty of successful people in this biz who have never been a webmaster. They're business peeps who pay people to be webmasters for them.
Cardinal_Sin
08-15-05, 08:50 PM
I am the same person Dave it's just that theres not so many surfers on here.
You can also have a laugh on here without people getting out of their prams, most on here have a good sense of humour and don't take it all too seriously.
I still think my Bruce Forsythe joke was funny, there was no harm meant by it I was just having a laugh :p
Thought it was very funny -
If the guys at sc take umbridge to what was obviously said in jest, then it may well pay them to look at the way they are trying to promote their business -
Posting pics all the time has bit them in the ass before - Posting ugly ones will bite them harder.
With this Dave wazok trying to do a poor imitation of Pimppussy, sadly failing, they are trying hard to set a standard of ineptitude that they shouldn't have too much problem keeping up to.
daveydude
08-15-05, 09:12 PM
Thought it was very funny -
If the guys at sc take umbridge to what was obviously said in jest, then it may well pay them to look at the way they are trying to promote their business -
Posting pics all the time has bit them in the ass before - Posting ugly ones will bite them harder.
With this Dave wazok trying to do a poor imitation of Pimppussy, sadly failing, they are trying hard to set a standard of ineptitude that they shouldn't have too much problem keeping up to.
lol is this a comedy post or do you really want a proper reply?
dvtimes
08-15-05, 09:23 PM
A little tip:
Its not a good idea to overreact if one of your customers makes a comment. You smile, and take it on the chin (no pun intended).
So someone made a comment (which was rather amusing). So what.
I would be interested how many webmasters were put off from promoting your sites because of the silly overreaction.
There are several shops/businesses that I never use, simply because I have heard the owner act in a manor that is not to my taste. A recent example is British Airways, as I would not wish to fly with them if they use that catering firm that has treat its staff so badly.
Dave you asked me to promote your sites, I am afraid that this silly overreaction does not give me confidence to promote your sites. Its not the first time your chap has posted such comments.
The comment was amusing, but even if it was not, one would expect someone running a business to simply ignore the comment and act professionally.
But at the end of the day, its not my business, and if you feel the best way to encourage people to sign up for your sites is to have a fit and insult other webmasters, then that's up to you.
- I am posting this to be helpful. I do not expect to have abuse from doing so.
I would be interested how many webmasters were put off from promoting your sites because of the silly overreaction.
i personally know of 2. doesn't mean anything though, cos the decision was that Aaron's and someone else's hate threads are good, while those not using any abuse get their accounts flagged so only they themselves and the mod/admins can see the posts.
have tits or have someone to show them for you, and you are set. :D
i personally know of 2
Those 2 could well have enough traffic to be able to send 100 sales per month or even per week each.
You never know whose business you are losing.
daveydude
08-15-05, 10:33 PM
A little tip:
Its not a good idea to overreact if one of your customers makes a comment. You smile, and take it on the chin (no pun intended).
So someone made a comment (which was rather amusing). So what.
I would be interested how many webmasters were put off from promoting your sites because of the silly overreaction.
There are several shops/businesses that I never use, simply because I have heard the owner act in a manor that is not to my taste. A recent example is British Airways, as I would not wish to fly with them if they use that catering firm that has treat its staff so badly.
Dave you asked me to promote your sites, I am afraid that this silly overreaction does not give me confidence to promote your sites. Its not the first time your chap has posted such comments.
The comment was amusing, but even if it was not, one would expect someone running a business to simply ignore the comment and act professionally.
But at the end of the day, its not my business, and if you feel the best way to encourage people to sign up for your sites is to have a fit and insult other webmasters, then that's up to you.
- I am posting this to be helpful. I do not expect to have abuse from doing so.
Allan, when I asked you to promote our sites it was with tongue in cheek cos I've seen you post elsewhere on here that you don't want anything to do with us. That's your decision and I respect it.
No matter what you might think, and regardless of personal issues members of our company have had with various people, we run good sites and we make good money for ourselves, our models, and our affiliates. We've had technical problems over the last few months but that's all over now and we're going from strength to strength - those are the facts.
This stupid thing about Geezer's joke is just Aaron's reaction (perhaps overraction) to what he regarded as an insult to a personal friend of his. I actually think Geezer & Aaron have more in common than they know - both are straight talking and pull no punches, so when they clash it's never going to be pretty. Geezer is in the Olympic squad of wind-up artists, on Netpond at least. He threw out the bait and Aaron bit, hard. I wouldn't blame anyone for doing the same to defend a friend, so I don't really see how it relates to our company specifically. Worst case scenario is, Aaron couldn't take the joke & had a go at someone who is well known for winding people up, but so what? How does that affect the value of our business?
Please don't assume you're going to get abuse from me for posting your thoughts though - I'll have a reasoned discussion with absolutely anyone :)
daveydude
08-15-05, 10:35 PM
Those 2 could well have enough traffic to be able to send 100 sales per month or even per week each.
You never know whose business you are losing.
Heh, that's the problem with actually having a personality online & not kissing everyone's arse all the time - you inevitably piss some people off. You of all people must know that Geezer ;)
dvtimes
08-15-05, 10:41 PM
Those 2 could well have enough traffic to be able to send 100 sales per month or even per week each.
You never know whose business you are losing.
Not only that, but existing webmasters may not wish to promote the sites as much.
Its a shame as the sites do look nice, but the net has many nice looking sites to promote. I am happy to get sales from those sites.
It always seems odd to me how businesses seem to think that they can do what they want and they will still get customers. Often they end up spending more cash and timer to try to get customers.
I may be a jerk, but no way would I go on a message board and insult webmasters who are basically driving customers to my sites.
Anyway, as I say, its not my business.
And to be honest the comment you made Geezer, was amusing. And I am sure no harm was meant.
You should hear the insults me and my female cousins say to each other. We know its done in jest, and so its jolly good fun.
I am sure that if the young lady had read the post, she would not have been upset by the comment as I am sure she has heard far worse.
Geezer's posts on this board have always been amusing. If you get upset by such posts, them maybe your in the wrong business.
Of course people get offended. People get offended by very minor things. If you want to prevent people being offended then you should not broadcast any TV show, radio show, film or website. Of course that's silly.
Heh, that's the problem with actually having a personality online & not kissing everyone's arse all the time - you inevitably piss some people off. You of all people must know that Geezer ;)
there is a major difference in representing a company wanting to win new affiliates or just your own webmastering though. ;)
either way, you guys are on the good side anyway, obviously Aaron's abusive behaviour was welcomed. i can still see his posts, he hasn't been silenced. the power of boobs.
daveydude
08-15-05, 10:47 PM
there is a major difference in representing a company wanting to win new affiliates or just your own webmastering though. ;)
either way, you guys are on the good side anyway, obviously Aaron's abusive behaviour was welcomed. i can still see his posts, he hasn't been silenced. the power of boobs.
lol, have they silenced you -HF? That's a travesty - you are a warrior for truth and justice, and I salute you! Whoever said life was fair huh?
dvtimes
08-15-05, 10:52 PM
Allan, when I asked you to promote our sites it was with tongue in cheek cos I've seen you post elsewhere on here that you don't want anything to do with us. That's your decision and I respect it.
No matter what you might think, and regardless of personal issues members of our company have had with various people, we run good sites and we make good money for ourselves, our models, and our affiliates. We've had technical problems over the last few months but that's all over now and we're going from strength to strength - those are the facts.
This stupid thing about Geezer's joke is just Aaron's reaction (perhaps overraction) to what he regarded as an insult to a personal friend of his. I actually think Geezer & Aaron have more in common than they know - both are straight talking and pull no punches, so when they clash it's never going to be pretty. Geezer is in the Olympic squad of wind-up artists, on Netpond at least. He threw out the bait and Aaron bit, hard. I wouldn't blame anyone for doing the same to defend a friend, so I don't really see how it relates to our company specifically. Worst case scenario is, Aaron couldn't take the joke & had a go at someone who is well known for winding people up, but so what? How does that affect the value of our business?
Please don't assume you're going to get abuse from me for posting your thoughts though - I'll have a reasoned discussion with absolutely anyone :)
I have said your sites do look good. In deed I am sure that has been a big selling point.
And in deed, I have nothing against you Dave. I have not met you in person, but you come across as a decent chap.
For me, I now tend to only sign up to sites with ccbill affiliates, as to be honest these sites people sign up with more than any other. In truth if your sites were ccbill, I would probably think about promoting them.
But I think the posts made by your chap does make your firm look bad.
Think if it was the other way around. Imagine if I ran a big site setup as you do, and the first time you come across me is by me posting "webmaster xyz is a jerk", would you wish to bother with them? I think not. It just comes across as a firm run by 8 year olds.
daveydude
08-15-05, 10:56 PM
I may be a jerk, but no way would I go on a message board and insult webmasters who are basically driving customers to my sites.
LOL - that's just a lie! You've openly insulted Aaron about his disability before.
I am sure that if the young lady had read the post, she would not have been upset by the comment as I am sure she has heard far worse.
She did read it, and found it very hurtful. That's why Aaron kicked off.
Of course people get offended. People get offended by very minor things. If you want to prevent people being offended then you should not broadcast any TV show, radio show, film or website. Of course that's silly.
Yeah people do get offended, that's human nature. So why is it such a big issue that someone got offended? For example, if you called your local Pakistani shopkeeper a "dirty paki" to his face (as a joke) & he called you a cunt, would you boycott his shop because he can't take a joke?
lol, have they silenced you -HF? That's a travesty - you are a warrior for truth and justice, and I salute you! Whoever said life was fair huh?
you mustn't assume i care much. this board, as small as it is so far, offers more actual biz info than Netpond does.
the fact someone who never atatcks personally gets silenced while abusive behaviour and threats are tolerated does say something though. and that shouldn't go unnoticed.
Heh, that's the problem with actually having a personality online & not kissing everyone's arse all the time - you inevitably piss some people off. You of all people must know that Geezer ;)
The thing is though Dave, as an affiliate of yours you would have my personal details, including my name, address and in some case my bank details.
What if one day I wind someone up and piss them off and in the heat of the moment they decide to post my details.
*thread title*
Send Geezer a card to let him know what a cunt you think he is.
*inside*
I think Geezer is a complete and utter cunt and I'm sure you agree, well just print out the following (a card) and send it to:
My Name
My Address
My Post Code
Do you get my point, it doesn't fill you with the utmost confidence when a sponsor, or one of it's representatives posts the type of things Aaron does and admits he is short tempered.
daveydude
08-15-05, 11:11 PM
I have said your sites do look good. In deed I am sure that has been a big selling point.
And in deed, I have nothing against you Dave. I have not met you in person, but you come across as a decent chap.
For me, I now tend to only sign up to sites with ccbill affiliates, as to be honest these sites people sign up with more than any other. In truth if your sites were ccbill, I would probably think about promoting them.
But I think the posts made by your chap does make your firm look bad.
Think if it was the other way around. Imagine if I ran a big site setup as you do, and the first time you come across me is by me posting "webmaster xyz is a jerk", would you wish to bother with them? I think not. It just comes across as a firm run by 8 year olds.
Yeah the CCBill thing is a double edged sword really - people know they are gonna get paid by CCBill, but as a company it's very hard to grow in the long term if CCBill is your only billing solution. If you want multiple payment options, you have to have affiliate tracking for every one of them, and you can't have that if you just use the CCBill affiliate system. In my opinion, I'd prefer to promote companies who are looking longterm and can process different streams of revenue - the more options you give the surfer, the better you convert.
Our non-CCBill sales have approximately quadrupled since we started using NATS. I think it's the case that webmasters who control heavy amounts of traffic will always prefer trusted 3rd party affiliate tracking and cascade billing over CCBill on its own, purely for the improved conversions. It's simple maths. But I guess it varies from webmaster to webmaster.
dvtimes
08-15-05, 11:12 PM
LOL - that's just a lie! You've openly insulted Aaron about his disability before.
Difference is thatat the time I was not wanting webmasters to promote my sites, in fact I still am not that bothered.
But the reason I insulted him was somthing between him and me. Its old news now, and I see it not helpfull to anyone to go on about it.
She did read it, and found it very hurtful. That's why Aaron kicked off.
Why was she reading it? I post pics of models I shoot all the time, and I expect insults to models. I often tell models that people post stuff like this all the time and to just ignore it. Take a look at this site (http://ww3.voyeurweb.com/main/Picturep.html) and I can bet that somone has posted a nasty coment for each girl. Thats life.
Yeah people do get offended, that's human nature. So why is it such a big issue that someone got offended? For example, if you called your local Pakistani shopkeeper a "dirty paki" to his face (as a joke) & he called you a cunt, would you boycott his shop because he can't take a joke?
No, as that would be racist. Somthing I would not suport.
I do not understand how you could think "dirty paki" is a joke.
However if the chap in the shop was nasty to a friend then I would not shop there.
daveydude
08-15-05, 11:14 PM
The thing is though Dave, as an affiliate of yours you would have my personal details, including my name, address and in some case my bank details.
What if one day I wind someone up and piss them off and in the heat of the moment they decide to post my details.
*thread title*
Send Geezer a card to let him know what a cunt you think he is.
*inside*
I think Geezer is a complete and utter cunt and I'm sure you agree, well just print out the following (a card) and send it to:
My Name
My Address
My Post Code
Do you get my point, it doesn't fill you with the utmost confidence when a sponsor, or one of it's representatives posts the type of things Aaron does and admits he is short tempered.
Heh, well yeah we could do that. But even short-tempered Aaron knows if he pulled something like that it would spell certain doom for us as a company. I'd definately divorce him lol. Whatever you think of him he's not suicidal ;)
dvtimes
08-15-05, 11:16 PM
The thing is though Dave, as an affiliate of yours you would have my personal details, including my name, address and in some case my bank details.
What if one day I wind someone up and piss them off and in the heat of the moment they decide to post my details.
*thread title*
Send Geezer a card to let him know what a cunt you think he is.
*inside*
I think Geezer is a complete and utter cunt and I'm sure you agree, well just print out the following (a card) and send it to:
My Name
My Address
My Post Code
Do you get my point, it doesn't fill you with the utmost confidence when a sponsor, or one of it's representatives posts the type of things Aaron does and admits he is short tempered.
Yes, I suspect that many webmasters would be thinking that now, even those who promote your sites.
A reason why I now tend to only promote ccbill sites.
Now its ok saying that you would not post somones address. And in truth I would suspect you would not, but other webmasters may presume that their could be a chance.
daveydude
08-15-05, 11:19 PM
No, as that would be racist. Somthing I would not suport.
I do not understand how you could think "dirty paki" is a joke.
However if the chap in the shop was nasty to a friend then I would not shop there.
OK I'll water down my example then:
You call the guy "four eyes" cos he wears glasses. He calls you a cunt back. Should you a) apologise & explain it was meant as a joke, you both hug & make up, or b) boycott his shop because he took something personally and is therefore a bad businessman?
Heh, well yeah we could do that. But even short-tempered Aaron knows if he pulled something like that it would spell certain doom for us as a company.
A couple of years ago someone at CEcash did exactly that on their forum, post the details I mean.
aaron_sterlingcash
08-15-05, 11:24 PM
Right for the record you upset me geezer, hf you havent upset me at all. I dont think you both being silenced on netpond is good. We should all be allowed to express our views even knocking others or insulting others, just we all have to expect attacks back and any other negative effects. eg my actions have been far from professional this would lead geezer to not become an affiliate of ours, this is an issue I have to deal with and you are right geezer for this I am sorry and do want to appologise for the things ive said.
I hope we can all chat more on here at least and stop the bullshit we are all in the biz to make money and co-operate so im willing to give it all up and learn a sense of humour and yes allan even you im offering you a truce and ill stop any personal attacks against you.
*group hug*
A couple of years ago someone at CEcash did exactly that on their forum, post the details I mean.
erm, same shit happened just some weeks ago, on JBM.
I don't want this to sound patronising but maybe it has something to do with age.
I really couldn't give a shit what anyone calls me, especially on an internet forum. It's water off a ducks back.
DirtyJumbo even decided to call my mum a crack whore who charges $5 for a blowjob, I suppose he thought that would hurt me, well it never.
I know it's not true, she has never, ever given a blowjob for $5...
it's always $15...
Even to me
Put E4 on now and watch Ricky Gervais, he is having a pop at many different groups, but it's funny and the audience are pissing their pants so they think so as well.
dvtimes
08-15-05, 11:34 PM
OK I'll water down my example then:
You call the guy "four eyes" cos he wears glasses. He calls you a cunt back. Should you a) apologise & explain it was meant as a joke, you both hug & make up, or b) boycott his shop because he took something personally and is therefore a bad businessman?
The best example is a friend of mine who runs a shop. He is very insulting to customers. The result is that people do not go back, and tell others not to go. He thinks customers should kiss his ass. I said to him, they can bend you over the table and take you up the bottom - at the end of the day they pay for your life.
What you are saying is that a customer should be in the right. What I am saying is that a customer can piss in your face and you should smile and say thank you sir (ok thats being over the top). Geezer as I have said could be a major promotor. Do you think after what has haped he would want to still promote you? No. He would choose another site.
Being harsh, he could have called her every name under the sun, but if he gets you sales, this will lead to more work for her, so she gets more cash.
The webmasters are your customers in many ways.
I get emails all the time from webmasters of sites I promote, often jolly decent. One just sent me two cd's. Some have sent me shirts, jackets and all sorts. But if I ever found any of them saying somthing about me, it would be balls to them.
In fact as I have said before one of the moderators on netpond is somone I USED to buy content from, and since he alowed junk to be posted about me without even emailing me to tell me, I no longer buy content from him. I buy it from another firm. Not only that but if people ask for content I tell them to use the new firm. I must have send the new firm lots of webmasters by now.
dvtimes
08-15-05, 11:38 PM
Right for the record you upset me geezer, hf you havent upset me at all. I dont think you both being silenced on netpond is good. We should all be allowed to express our views even knocking others or insulting others, just we all have to expect attacks back and any other negative effects. eg my actions have been far from professional this would lead geezer to not become an affiliate of ours, this is an issue I have to deal with and you are right geezer for this I am sorry and do want to appologise for the things ive said.
I hope we can all chat more on here at least and stop the bullshit we are all in the biz to make money and co-operate so im willing to give it all up and learn a sense of humour and yes allan even you im offering you a truce and ill stop any personal attacks against you.
*group hug*
Hi, that's fine.
I hope you can see my posts are not to put your firm down, but to be helpful.
If Geezer or any webmaster upsets you, may I suggest that you bite your toung. The result of your posts MUST have cost you cash.
daveydude
08-15-05, 11:38 PM
Put E4 on now and watch Ricky Gervais, he is having a pop at many different groups, but it's funny and the audience are pissing their pants so they think so as well.
Heh, Gervais is the man. He's not nasty in the way he pokes fun at all though - it's more satirical than anything if you ask me. It's all about the way you tell 'em.
*group hug*
since you won't be able to see the reply for some time, enjoy it here :D
Just a note I dont agree with hf and geezer being silenced we are all guilty of slagging people at times. They're not that bad.
beg to differ, i have never attacked anyone personally or slagged them off, there is a major difference to disagreeing with their point of view and/or actions.
not that you would see this reply anyway. :lmao:
aaron_sterlingcash
08-15-05, 11:48 PM
well like I said on netpond its not right
no arguments about the right or wrong part, i object to being lumped in with slagging anyone off. it's something i simply do not do on a public board.
dvtimes
08-15-05, 11:53 PM
OK I am off to bed.
Personally I like 'black' humour. I find sick jokes great. Often they break barriers.
I hate the 'political correct belief were your wrong unless you go along with others. I find this dangerous as its so close to censorship its untrue.
Its like when I posted my jest about me having a job delivering presents on the London underground. Some said I was sick, yet they could not say why.
Its like porn. People say its wrong and I am sick. Yet when I ask them why, they look stunned and cannot say why.
I personally love to insult people. As I find the only people who get insulted are people who are unable to think for themselves.
Those who do not get insulted are usually the interesting people.
I was amazed on TV a few days ago a chap said to a policewoman that she was too attractive to be in the police. She was offended by this. I thought, if she gets upset by that, she was in the wrong job. I thought what's she going to do when someone calls her a pig???
Words are just words. You can call me or indeed any member of my family anything you want, it would not bother me.
Well that's it for me. Off to bed now.
aaron_sterlingcash
08-15-05, 11:55 PM
no arguments about the right or wrong part, i object to being lumped in with slagging anyone off. it's something i simply do not do on a public board.
heh i take that comment back then matey i didnt mean you did. sorry
Cardinal_Sin
08-16-05, 12:04 AM
but as a company it's very hard to grow in the long term if CCBill is your only billing solution
The main reason programmes turn to cascading is to control the cash paid out to affiliates - I have done a few million with ccbill and can count several thousands of dollars ccbill has pocketed by affiliates not reaching the minimum 25$ - When you cascade and set that figure to say, 100$ the programme pockets it. I know some programmes have even set the minimum payout to 500$
Why steal a single cent from a referrer - With epasporte etc costing sfa to transfer cash, why not pay out every single cent earned?
But in reality, using an affiliate's inability to make the minimum payout helps small programmes like yours grow quicker.
daveydude
08-16-05, 12:09 AM
but as a company it's very hard to grow in the long term if CCBill is your only billing solution
The main reason programmes turn to cascading is to control the cash paid out to affiliates - I have done a few million with ccbill and can count several thousands of dollars ccbill has pocketed by affiliates not reaching the minimum 25$ - When you cascade and set that figure to say, 100$ the programme pockets it. I know some programmes have even set the minimum payout to 500$
Why steal a single cent from a referrer - With epasporte etc costing sfa to transfer cash, why not pay out every single cent earned?
But in reality, using an affiliate's inability to make the minimum payout helps small programmes like yours grow quicker.
I was thinking about that very thing today. Our minimum payout is currently $50, same as CCBill? Really there is no reason why it shouldn't be $0 - I will look into it.
this is a top thread and 100% respect to Rebel.
I am sick fucken fed up of the growing trend on Netpond that women are seen as of value if they choose to post tit pics. I am a biz person on the boards...my gender is secondary.
As to the reason of this thread..i felt heart sorry for the girl in question, perhaps i had an empathy with her cos im female. I could see the humour in Geezers posts..but on the flip of that felt for her as it takes balls to post your pic on a public forum.
Glad to see its all being resolved in an adult fashion.
domd
xx
Cardinal_Sin
08-16-05, 12:13 AM
I was thinking about that very thing today. Our minimum payout is currently $50, same as CCBill? Really there is no reason why it shouldn't be $0 - I will look into it.
ccbill's is 25 - Nice reply.
I am sick fucken fed up of the growing trend on Netpond that women are seen as of value if they choose to post tit pics.
the trend isn't new really, it was really bad last year when the domain wiz came up with one original contest after the other, camel toes and wet shirt pics.
as soon as a female posted in any thread, he was all over her, demanding she posts suitable pics. at some point Kamilla (i think) and REBs set him straight on some things. ever since he is hateful towards REBs, funnily enough Kamilla managed to get on his good side again, prolly the nudie pics of hers that were leaked onto Netpond at some point, who knows.
the trend isn't new really, it was really bad last year when the domain wiz came up with one original contest after the other, camel toes and wet shirt pics.
as soon as a female posted in any thread, he was all over her, demanding she posts suitable pics. at some point Kamilla (i think) and REBs set him straight on some things. ever since he is hateful towards REBs, funnily enough Kamilla managed to get on his good side again, prolly the nudie pics of hers that were leaked onto Netpond at some point, who knows.
ah i see...well i hate all that shit. Tis only cos im a lady :p i have kep my gob shut..thus far lol
domd
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woah, you can trust some folks to firmly insert their foot in their mouths. :D
(not aimed at anyone in the thread, BTW) (yet anyway)
I have no voice on NP cos I have been silenced so I will address this here.
Rob of SC, has had a problem with me and tries to have little digs at me for quite a while now. The reason?
Rob spammed me to try and get me to promote SC, when I said I don't do solo girl sites and didn't want to promote faith, he got all shitty and has been ever since.
Fuck me if you are going to spam someone and not get the response you expect, just move on, don't get all shirty about it.
He even said "I know it's a bit cheeky" to spam me. I said "no problem, doesn't bother me" but then to get shitty cos I didn't want to pomote their site is a bit much.
He has then tried to have little pops at me ever since. get over it Rob.
daveydude
08-16-05, 12:57 AM
Rob spammed me to try and get me to promote SC
When was this Geezer?
When was this Geezer?
Last year, I believe it was around Feb time. He was telling me he was off out to interview some new models.
daveydude
08-16-05, 01:20 AM
Last year, I believe it was around Feb time. He was telling me he was off out to interview some new models.
Oh right - that was way before he was on the payroll. Guess he was trying to get into our good books. Wasn't aware he'd spammed anyone - never heard anything about it til now in fact. Of course we don't condone spamming & never will.
Oh right - that was way before he was on the payroll. Guess he was trying to get into our good books. Wasn't aware he'd spammed anyone - never heard anything about it til now in fact. Of course we don't condone spamming & never will.
I don't give a shit about spam and I have never made an issue about it because it's no big deal.
The reason I mention it now is because he has constantly has pops at me since I turned down his offer to promote Faith.
Now I have no voice on NP he has another little dig.
Just editing to say I was wrong with the date, it wasn't Feb it was actually: Sat Aug 14 21:46:54 2004
daveydude
08-16-05, 01:44 AM
I don't give a shit about spam and I have never made an issue about it because it's no big deal.
The reason I mention it now is because he has constantly has pops at me since I turned down his offer to promote Faith.
Now I have no voice on NP he has another little dig.
Just editing to say I was wrong with the date, it wasn't Feb it was actually: Sat Aug 14 21:46:54 2004
Rob tells me that him being shitty with you is just cos of your general attitude on Netpond, nothing to do with you promoting Faith or not.
I don't see this as a big issue at all - someone who doesn't like your attitude isn't exactly a rarity is it - loads of people give you shit all the time! Of course that's no excuse to have pops at you for no reason, and that won't be happening any more. Sound fair?
Rob tells me that him being shitty with you is just cos of your general attitude on Netpond, nothing to do with you promoting Faith or not.
I don't see this as a big issue at all - someone who doesn't like your attitude isn't exactly a rarity is it - loads of people give you shit all the time! Of course that's no excuse to have pops at you for no reason, and that won't be happening any more. Sound fair?
I really don't care if anyone wants to have a pop at me, I can take it.
The thing is Dave, Rob had only been a member on NP for 5 minutes before he "spammed" me and then got shitty.
If he had a problem with me after reading my posts for a while I would accept that but he never, he was shitty from the moment I said I wouldn't promote faith.
Rob - Join Date: 07-29-2004
Rob Spammed me: Sat Aug 14 21:46:54 2004
Rob - Join Date: 07-29-2004
Rob Spammed me: Sat Aug 14 21:46:54 2004
ah, come on, Head Boy didn't like you then already. :D
ah, come on, Head Boy didn't like you then already. :D
That was probably more to do with my age though :mad:
Anyway, fuck off, it was you he didn't like before then, he thought I was younger than I was so it was only when he met me he didn't like me.
you got along well at Meat's BBQ, don't lie. he even complimented you and the meat when i posted the pics on NP.
daveydude
08-16-05, 02:26 AM
I really don't care if anyone wants to have a pop at me, I can take it.
The thing is Dave, Rob had only been a member on NP for 5 minutes before he "spammed" me and then got shitty.
If he had a problem with me after reading my posts for a while I would accept that but he never, he was shitty from the moment I said I wouldn't promote faith.
Rob - Join Date: 07-29-2004
Rob Spammed me: Sat Aug 14 21:46:54 2004
OK, well, we have offiicially buried our hatchets now. Rob was probably just learning the biz at the time and wasn't aware of the etiquette. There won't be any more uncalled-for shittiness.
OK, well, we have offiicially buried our hatchets now. Rob was probably just learning the biz at the time and wasn't aware of the etiquette. There won't be any more uncalled-for shittiness.
There's nothing wrong with shittyness, if we all agree about everything and all think everyone is right and that their posts are great then this will end up like another board I know. You know the one, where people post galleries for review, they are the poxiest galleries, actually to call them galleries is a joke, and eveyone says "great gallery" "that should do well" or any other pathetic remark.
daveydude
08-16-05, 11:37 AM
There's nothing wrong with shittyness, if we all agree about everything and all think everyone is right and that their posts are great then this will end up like another board I know. You know the one, where people post galleries for review, they are the poxiest galleries, actually to call them galleries is a joke, and eveyone says "great gallery" "that should do well" or any other pathetic remark.
lol yeah you have a point there. Those are the downsides to getting paid to post. It's a good way to keep the peace though. I'd rather see 20 people saying a shit gallery was good rather than have 20 Geezers telling it like it is & causing a riot ;) So why don't you post on GFY instead of Netpond if you prefer all the rough stuff?
lol yeah you have a point there. Those are the downsides to getting paid to post. It's a good way to keep the peace though. I'd rather see 20 people saying a shit gallery was good rather than have 20 Geezers telling it like it is & causing a riot ;) So why don't you post on GFY instead of Netpond if you prefer all the rough stuff?
My point is Dave, if someone posts a shit gallery and we all tell them how great it is how are they going to learn.
I wish I had made a screenshot of a particular gallery that was posted.
It was accidently accepted on RR and to be honest it was an insult to all gallery makers. Yet people were still saying it was great.That is just pathetic.
If I was just starting and was trying to build a gallery I would rather someone tell me what is wrong with it and how to improve it rather just saying "Nice gallery"
When you first started your paysite, had you built a shit tour that would not convert for various reasons. Would you rather people said what was wrong with it or would you prefer they simply said "great"?
lol yeah you have a point there. Those are the downsides to getting paid to post. It's a good way to keep the peace though. I'd rather see 20 people saying a shit gallery was good rather than have 20 Geezers telling it like it is & causing a riot ;) So why don't you post on GFY instead of Netpond if you prefer all the rough stuff?
i'm actually surprised big time that you out of all people would confuse honesty and straight forwardness with malicious actions.
daveydude
08-16-05, 04:22 PM
i'm actually surprised big time that you out of all people would confuse honesty and straight forwardness with malicious actions.
I'm not confusing them at all. All I'm saying is I'd rather see positive bullshit than negative bullshit. I've already explained that constructive criticism is perfectly OK.
daveydude
08-16-05, 04:28 PM
My point is Dave, if someone posts a shit gallery and we all tell them how great it is how are they going to learn.
I wish I had made a screenshot of a particular gallery that was posted.
It was accidently accepted on RR and to be honest it was an insult to all gallery makers. Yet people were still saying it was great.That is just pathetic.
If I was just starting and was trying to build a gallery I would rather someone tell me what is wrong with it and how to improve it rather just saying "Nice gallery"
When you first started your paysite, had you built a shit tour that would not convert for various reasons. Would you rather people said what was wrong with it or would you prefer they simply said "great"?
Yeah telling people what they want to hear does no good at all. We get feeback from members all the time and we do our best to act on it - you can lose your objectivity when you're too close to something and you sometimes lose sight of things.
It would be better to get someone saying "that tour looks fucking shit because the pics are too small" instead of "that tour looks fucking shit" or "that tour looks fucking great". The latter 2 don't tell you anything useful, the first one does.
To answer your question, I'd rather be told something was bad and WHY, rather than just be told it was bad. Thowing unqualified insults around just lowers the tone and people start getting shitty with each other, and that's no fun. Unqualified praise is just as bad, but at least it doesn't start stupid flame wars.
I'm not confusing them at all. All I'm saying is I'd rather see positive bullshit than negative bullshit. I've already explained that constructive criticism is perfectly OK.
hmm...
I'd rather see 20 people saying a shit gallery was good rather than have 20 Geezers telling it like it is & causing a riot ;)
what you are saying then is that telling it like it is (read: being honest) is bullshit by default? does that count for eveyone being upfront or just Geezer?
Could someone condense this topic for me into two sentences, I can't be arsed to read the rest :)
Could someone condense this topic for me into two sentences, I can't be arsed to read the rest :)
OK here is the real condensed version.
Geezer said something to Aaron on another forum.
Aaron said something back to geezer on the other forum
HF & Davey joined on on the other forum.
The other forum blocked HF and Geezers posts so no one could see them.
They are all still arguing
Or even more condensed
http://www.beerandbollocks.com/silly/kb.gif
that's the problem with cliff notes, they usually aren't quite correct. ;)
edited to add on: i wasn't involved with the Geezer/Aaron bit, other than knowing both.
as it has been stated today, i was caught in the fire for personal reasons. tough tits i guess.
that's the problem with cliff notes, they usually aren't quite correct. ;)
edited to add on: i wasn't involved with the Geezer/Aaron bit, other than knowing both.
as it has been stated today, i was caught in the fire for personal reasons. tough tits i guess.
OK, here is a corrected version.
Geezer said something
Aaron said something
HF said something
Davey said something
Some others also had something to say
daveydude
08-16-05, 05:10 PM
OK, here is a corrected version.
Geezer said something
Aaron said something
HF said something
Davey said something
Some others also had something to say
That sums it up yeah ;)
daveydude
08-16-05, 05:11 PM
what you are saying then is that telling it like it is (read: being honest) is bullshit by default? does that count for eveyone being upfront or just Geezer?
No I don't seriously mean that. I think I've made my position clear. I like constructive criticism. If there's no constructive element, it's just bullshit.
constructive criticism....
i think the pics of faith, ashley and highstreet candy did candy no justice at all. I can see that Candy is an attractive girl but was shot badly..very badly. She looks to have a great bod, beautiful hair and great boobs..these if emphasised..would make fab pics.
Been dying to say that!
domd
xx
constructive criticism....
i think the pics of faith, ashley and highstreet candy did candy no justice at all. I can see that Candy is an attractive girl but was shot badly..very badly. She looks to have a great bod, beautiful hair and great boobs..these if emphasised..would make fab pics.
Been dying to say that!
domd
xx
You know what, I was honestly going to say she was shot badly but then I'm sure Aaron would have kicked off about that. Because I would then be having a go at his photography, which I know a bit about :) photography that is, not Aarons.
daveydude
08-16-05, 05:33 PM
constructive criticism....
i think the pics of faith, ashley and highstreet candy did candy no justice at all. I can see that Candy is an attractive girl but was shot badly..very badly. She looks to have a great bod, beautiful hair and great boobs..these if emphasised..would make fab pics.
Been dying to say that!
domd
xx
lol - see that's fine. And I'm sure Aaron would be fine with you commenting on his photogrpahy Geezer, and long as you don't bait him.
"Candy" used to model but decided a while ago to get into the production side of things - she's a really bright lass and should do well. She only did those pics for a giggle though. I doubt we'll be seeing any more of her anytime soon ;)
The thing is, she probably *doesn't* have the looks to be a model, especially not alongside the likes of Faith. I think she realises this and has figured out she will do better behind the scenes.
I know nothing about the technical side...but i know a bad pose when i see one. My comment was in no way crticising the technique..just a comment on that had candy been photographed from a different angle or in a different setting.....
well there would not have been the masses of posts over the last couple of days lol
domd
xx
lol - see that's fine. And I'm sure Aaron would be fine with you commenting on his photogrpahy Geezer, and long as you don't bait him.
"Candy" used to model but decided a while ago to get into the production side of things - she's a really bright lass and should do well. She only did those pics for a giggle though. I doubt we'll be seeing any more of her anytime soon ;)
The thing is, she probably *doesn't* have the looks to be a model, especially not alongside the likes of Faith. I think she realises this and has figured out she will do better behind the scenes.
thats a shame tho cos she is a damn site better looking than some models ive seen. An attractive woman with a brain tho....good on her
domd
xx
daveydude
08-16-05, 05:39 PM
Heh, well despite this dragging on for ages over 2 different boards, I actually think the outcome has been positive. To be fair, it doesn't actually matter whether those particular pics were any good or not - they were never intended to serve a purpose other than to have a laugh at that particular shoot, and to show the folks at the 'pond what we'd been upto. Little did we know... lol
well worry not..everythings a learning curve etc etc
Still, takes balls to post ur pic up, i respect her for that.
Im shutting up now lol
domd
xx
women with brains. wasn't that myth abolished centuries ago?
daveydude
08-16-05, 05:47 PM
women with brains. wasn't that myth abolished centuries ago?
Women have massive brains.
Their hoovering & tea-making glands have swollen greatly over the past couple of generations ;)
lol - see that's fine. And I'm sure Aaron would be fine with you commenting on his photogrpahy Geezer, and long as you don't bait him.
What is with all this "Baiting", if someone bites at a comment that's up to them. I never intended to "Bait" anyone I was just having laugh.
If it wasn't a serious shoot and the girl only did it for a laugh, why all the fuss?
If Aaron wants some tips on photography I am here, I would have to charge a fee though :)
So what you are saying is that it's fine to make a "negative" comment as long as you throw 3 or 4 compliments in?
So when I mentioned Faith having pictures of children in an "Adult" photo that would have been fine as long as I said but she looks fantastic and soo sexy?
our brains have grown, as they have room to expand.
sadly mens dont have that luxury being kept in their pants...
Women have massive brains.
Their hoovering & tea-making glands have swollen greatly over the past couple of generations ;)
Isn't that out of order and insulting to women? or does it make it OK because you put [kidding] in there?
I was out of order according to Aaron to one girl, you cover them all with that statement.
our brains have grown, as they have room to expand.
sadly mens dont have that luxury being kept in their pants...
what about those wearing kilts then?
OK, here is a corrected version.
Geezer said something
Aaron said something
HF said something
Davey said something
Some others also had something to say
Sounds exciting! :D
what about those wearing kilts then?
i stand corrected..mind you..there is always an exception to any rule..expecially since pants are not involved with kilts
domd
xx
daveydude
08-16-05, 05:59 PM
What is with all this "Baiting", if someone bites at a comment that's up to them. I never intended to "Bait" anyone I was just having laugh.
If it wasn't a serious shoot and the girl only did it for a laugh, why all the fuss?
If Aaron wants some tips on photography I am here, I would have to charge a fee though :)
So what you are saying is that it's fine to make a "negative" comment as long as you throw 3 or 4 compliments in?
So when I mentioned Faith having pictures of children in an "Adult" photo that would have been fine as long as I said but she looks fantastic and soo sexy?
There was a fuss because she didn't take kindly to what you said.
I'm saying that negative comments are fine if they have a valid point to make.
No problem with you noticing Faith's kiddy photos in the background - we never had a problem with you pointing that out at all & it was appeciated that you broight it to our attention.
daveydude
08-16-05, 06:01 PM
Isn't that out of order and insulting to women? or does it make it OK because you put [kidding] in there?
I was out of order according to Aaron to one girl, you cover them all with that statement.
No, it's OK because I obviously don't mean it.
i stand corrected..mind you..there is always an exception to any rule..expecially since pants are not involved with kilts
domd
xx
in other words, wearing kilt makes one a sissy? :D
(my god, the scots will demand my head for this one)
in other words, wearing kilt makes one a sissy? :D
(my god, the scots will demand my head for this one)
lmao..no it means your brain and other parts of your anatomy have room for expansion.....
No, it's OK because I obviously don't mean it.
So you say
daveydude
08-16-05, 06:05 PM
So you say
Well I don't like ambiguity - people get the wrong idea...
lmao..no it means your brain and other parts of your anatomy have room for expansion.....
and access to cold surfaces.
Well I don't like ambiguity - people get the wrong idea...
I don't really want to be explaining every time I post, if people interpret something a certain way then that's up to them.
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