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towlie
01-25-07, 10:10 AM
What do you think just read this article http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/22/business/media/22porn.html
Porn stars in the states are having to have even more cosmetic surgery is this the way we're headed even more plastic porn stars and can you have Amateur HD porn ?

tas
01-25-07, 10:18 AM
In a few years HD will probably become the norm in all aspects of tv/film just as dvd has replaced vhs, cd have replaced vinyl and digital tv is replacing anologue tv.

SGS
01-25-07, 10:19 AM
If you want to future proof your HUGE investment which is content then of course it is. That article btw is complete and utter fictional crap. :)

tdf
01-25-07, 10:26 AM
Corse its needed, the only issues ive seen so far is the last that its not kind to any kind of marks or blemishes however I think its about time us men stopped having such unrealistic views of women created by the whole 'image' mill we have throughout the different media types we have today. I also feel on a biz angle starting to shoot now will safe guard your biz for the future just as SGS suggests.

Johnny Kleenexxx
01-25-07, 10:49 AM
some folk will always prefer the rough touch . . especially for amateur,
if amateurs start shooting in pro format & lighting it could backfire imo
because comparisons will then be made with sites in the pro arena.
i have tha capacity to shoot HD, but as an "amateur style" shooter
i prefer to let the big boys experiment with HD first before switching.

an example: there's still a market for vintage looking black & white porn
why would this still be the case in a world full of colour cameras ?
Probably because good image quality doesn't mean quality overall
No matter how high res your content is, it still has to hit the spot,
content will never sell on raw image quality alone, HD is just technology.

SGS
01-25-07, 10:56 AM
an example: there's still a market for vintage looking black & white porn
why would this still be the case in a world full of colour cameras ?
Probably because good image quality doesn't mean quality overall
No matter how high res your content is, it still has to hit the spot,
content will never sell on raw image quality alone, HD is just technology.

You can do all of that with any footage in a heartbeat. We spend far too much in the studio not to use the latest technology.

aaron_sterlingcash
01-25-07, 11:04 AM
Its a worthy investment to make the move!

pleasureville
01-25-07, 11:06 AM
I still love to watch a good old fashioned Double penetration German classic.. awful dubbing & pretty awful quality movie making ... but hey the sex is great.
I think its gonna be worth while to make some movies in HD but it wont effect to much on the net ...
as people will realise it takes ages to download... more quality, more mbs.

SGS
01-25-07, 11:07 AM
I still love to watch a good old fashioned Double penetration German classic.. awful dubbing & pretty awful quality movie making ... but hey the sex is great.
I think its gonna be worth while to make some movies in HD but it wont effect to much on the net ...
as people will realise it takes ages to download... more quality, more mbs.

If you shoot in HDV you don't have to format it in HDV for the web.

Simon
01-25-07, 11:21 AM
I can't think of many butts that would be up to close HD inspection on a 42inch high def screen. But thats my problem, the technology won't wait while I breed a bunch of bleemish free models, so i'll just have to deal with it. HDV is 1920x1080 or 1280x720 so your looking at a moving image thats bigger than the sizes most sites use for their still images. The world will just have to get used to the odd spot or wrinkle. Either that or teams of third world outworkers will be retouching each frame. :)

HDV is here, you gotta have it, cause everyone else does, raw image quality does sell, always has always will. SD will look like Laurel and Hardy b&W in about three weeks from now. I've bought the best gear I could from day one, and pretty much every time someone has given me the "But its only porn why bother?" speach. usually my answer is along the lines of. Well it works and I get to buy shiny toys while you get to work in a shop or are a photgrapher that has no work. Hmmm, go figure.

Pornstars are just using it as an excuse for more surgery cause they can.

Johnny Kleenexxx
01-25-07, 11:33 AM
You can do all of that with any footage in a heartbeat. We spend far too much in the studio not to use the latest technology.
i completely understand why you guys shoot HD for Sonia,
there's almost an expectation of an HD move when it comes to larger programs,
i just don't think that surfer expectation is quite there yet for smalltime niche ops
How many small sponsors really get pestered for HD by their members ?

it's great that you remind people that HD footage is not set in stone,
doesn't mean you can't still encode to 3CCD sizes . . so in that sense
i understand the argument for "why not HD ?"

but how do you convince webmasters with smaller budgets
currently make decent sales with non-HD content that the extra
investment in gear (including a fat machine to deal with it)
is gonna pay off before the bailiffs arrive on their doorstep ?

most of us will still have to encode with slow connections worldwide in mind
so i see HD as simply a download option for the well connected . . a site
exclusively in HD risks alienating many surfers imho . . some are still on a 56.

gawdi
01-25-07, 11:50 AM
i completely understand why you guys shoot HD for Sonia,
there's almost an expectation of an HD move when it comes to larger programs,
i just don't think that surfer expectation is quite there yet for smalltime niche ops
How many small sponsors really get pestered for HD by their members ?

it's great that you remind people that HD footage is not set in stone,
doesn't mean you can't still encode to 3CCD sizes . . so in that sense
i understand the argument for "why not HD ?"

but how do you convince webmasters with smaller budgets
currently make decent sales with non-HD content that the extra
investment in gear (including a fat machine to deal with it)
is gonna pay off before the bailiffs arrive on their doorstep ?

most of us will still have to encode with slow connections worldwide in mind
so i see HD as simply a download option for the well connected . . a site
exclusively in HD risks alienating many surfers imho . . some are still on a 56.

I dont shoot HD yet. but will soon.....

Currently HD is not necessary in porn, but and its a big BUT, the way technology is changing, HD will become the standard..... Now that HD cameras are not too much more expensive than 3CCD camera, it makes good business sense to originate in HD... but to edit and publish in normal MPeg or WMV......... As and when technology improves and bandwidth speeds improve the you have the HD originals so you can put them on your site.........

As for 56k surfers - forget them........ any serious porn users are on broadband... so why spend the time and effort in putting up content suitable for 56k?

tdf
01-25-07, 11:54 AM
I can't think of many butts that would be up to close HD inspection on a 42inch high def screen. But thats my problem, the technology won't wait while I breed a bunch of bleemish free models, so i'll just have to deal with it. HDV is 1920x1080 or 1280x720 so your looking at a moving image thats bigger than the sizes most sites use for their still images. The world will just have to get used to the odd spot or wrinkle. Either that or teams of third world outworkers will be retouching each frame. :)

HDV is here, you gotta have it, cause everyone else does, raw image quality does sell, always has always will. SD will look like Laurel and Hardy b&W in about three weeks from now. I've bought the best gear I could from day one, and pretty much every time someone has given me the "But its only porn why bother?" speach. usually my answer is along the lines of. Well it works and I get to buy shiny toys while you get to work in a shop or are a photgrapher that has no work. Hmmm, go figure.

Pornstars are just using it as an excuse for more surgery cause they can.

And that is probably why you will be stinking fat rich cos you have always kept up with technology/quality of your product and I totally agree with everything you said.

Simon
01-25-07, 11:57 AM
And that is probably why you will be stinking fat rich Still working on the last one, first two, job done!

tdf
01-25-07, 12:14 PM
Still working on the last one, first two, job done!

Nice one! Damn obvious as well, you defo dont need to 'big' yourself up...your record is there for all to see unlike some on here!

daveydude
01-25-07, 01:31 PM
It's just the inescapable march of technology - keep up or get left behind. As has been metioned previously, you aren't forced to output videos at full HD resolution (indeed hardly anyone does right now) but as average internet connection speeds and monitor resolutions increase, the market for higher resolution porn increases with them. Best to be shooting HD now so you can keep up with these trends.

daveydude
01-25-07, 01:34 PM
I'd say at the moment it's far from essential to be shooting HD - you can still make money with standard DV content, but as time goes on we'll see more & more producers switching to HD. If you can't afford the jump to HD now, at least get saving for it.

PHP-CODER-FOR-HIRE
01-25-07, 08:11 PM
Porn itself isn't NECESSARY, it's just nice. Just like HD is nice.

Jase
01-25-07, 08:31 PM
Porn itself isn't NECESSARY, it's just nice. Just like HD is nice.

Porn is fucking necessary if you are a single ugly fucker with a small knob like me! Porn is my sex life!! :bj:

daveydude
01-25-07, 09:10 PM
Porn is fucking necessary if you are a single ugly fucker with a small knob like me! Porn is my sex life!! :bj:

Therefore you want it bigger and more realistic. Therefore HD is the way to go :)

Jase
01-25-07, 09:14 PM
Therefore you want it bigger and more realistic. Therefore HD is the way to go :)

Hell yeah!! I have got my 50" HD plasma and a big box of Kleenex both just waiting for HD porn :Penis

tdf
01-25-07, 09:14 PM
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PHP-CODER-FOR-HIRE
01-25-07, 09:18 PM
Porn is fucking necessary if you are a single ugly fucker with a small knob like me! Porn is my sex life!! :bj:

Fair enough :P