30 years since Punk

[strictlybroadband]

Now I know I'm old. ITV4 (I think) is running a night of punk TV tonight, to celebrate 30 years since the birth of punk rock. I'm not going to be able tell people I'm 25 for much longer.

[Rosie]

Johny Rotten is a grand dad :(

[dvtimes]

Punk was more about the fashion and the art.

In fact in many ways the fashion and art still go on.

Its just the music side was short lived.

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Pizzle was more `bout tha fashion n tha art.

In fiznact in mizzle ways tha fashion n art still go on.

Its jizzay tha music side was S-H-to-tha-izzort lived.

[gav]

Punk is still very much alive and kicking and has been since it burst onto the music scene in 76. The common misconception is that it only lasted a couple of years then died but, in reality, it just disappeared from the charts and was ignored by the music press. Check out local gigs and you'll be surprised how many of the old bands from the 70's and early 80's have reformed and are gigging again to decent sized audiences plus plenty of new bands springing up all over the place.

Hoping your gonna be watching Smithsmedia, get some decent music in your ears instead of that country and western bollocks :neener: :dance: Where is the fucking pogo smilie when you need one

[chris@uk-pornogirls.com]

Agree saw Stiff Little Fingers last month in Exeter ... bloody excellent they were too.
Was funny seeing fellow 40 year old fat fuckers trying to pogo tho :D

[daveydude]

There's still a strong underground punk scene that has little to do musically with the late 70s stuff. But the DIY spirit & avoidance of the mainstream music industry is still there. I've spent the last 15 years driving up & down the country playing little gigs with amazing bands who never "make it big" but are just doing it because they love making music on their own terms.

[dvtimes]

Jubilee is on itv 4 with the futcher telly tubby Toyah Willcox.

[refund]

Punk is still very much alive and kicking and has been since it burst onto the music scene in 76. The common misconception is that it only lasted a couple of years then died but, in reality, it just disappeared from the charts and was ignored by the music press. Check out local gigs and you'll be surprised how many of the old bands from the 70's and early 80's have reformed and are gigging again to decent sized audiences plus plenty of new bands springing up all over the place.

Hoping your gonna be watching Smithsmedia, get some decent music in your ears instead of that country and western bollocks :neener: :dance: Where is the fucking pogo smilie when you need one

some decent music in your ears instead of that country and western bollocks

When your talkin' down my music, son, you're walkin' on the fightin' side of me. Now get your biscuits in the oven and your buns in the bed.

And I'm proud to be an Okie from Muskogee,
A place where even squares can have a ball.
We still wave Old Glory down at the courthouse,
And white lightnin's still the biggest thrill of all.

Leather boots are still in style for manly footwear;
Beads and Roman sandals won't be seen.
Football's still the roughest thing on campus,
And the kids here still respect the college dean.

We still wave Old Glory down at the courthouse,
In Muskogee, Oklahoma, USA.

Now that is class.

[gav]

When your talkin' down my music, son, you're walkin' on the fightin' side of me. Now get your biscuits in the oven and your buns in the bed.

And I'm proud to be an Okie from Muskogee,
A place where even squares can have a ball.
We still wave Old Glory down at the courthouse,
And white lightnin's still the biggest thrill of all.

Leather boots are still in style for manly footwear;
Beads and Roman sandals won't be seen.
Football's still the roughest thing on campus,
And the kids here still respect the college dean.

We still wave Old Glory down at the courthouse,
In Muskogee, Oklahoma, USA.

Now that is class.

Fuck how can any other music genre compete with groups knocking out quality lyrics like that! yeehaa

[refund]

I agree. There are really only two kinds of music worth listening to....
Country and Western. Ain't nobody can touch a cowboy poet....

Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys
Don't let them pick guitars and drive big old trucks
Make them be doctors and lawyers and such.
Mammas don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys
They'll never stay home and they're always alone
Even with someone they love.

Cowboys like smoky old pool rooms and clear mountain mornings
Little warm puppies and children and girls of the night
Them that don't know him won't like him and them that do
Sometimes won't know hom to take him
He ain't wrong he's just different but his pride won't
Let him do things to make you think he's right.

[Nottslad]

I missed the first proper wave of punk (Pistols etc) but was old enough in the early eighties to enjoy the second generation. Being in my mid teens I was a poser and dyed my hair on Fridays for the school disco and weekend only to wash it out before school on a Monday.

Used to spend many a weekend going to see bands, if they'd let me in -happy times; The Damned, SLF, Exploited, Vice Squad, UK Subs, Discharge, Angelic Upstarts, GBH, Anti Nowhere League to name but a few. When we moved abroad we sold just about everything we owned but I couldnt bear to get rid of my old vinyl LP's - they are still in my Mum's attic somewhere gathering dust but to collectors probably worth a bit as I used to buy all the coloured vinyl and limited edition stuff.

Kind of sad that the last gig I went to was Robbie Williams last month, but it was my fortieth birthday and in Mexico City so memorable just the same. I might go again if Charlie Harper is still alive and plays there with the Subs :)

[JT]

I agree. There are really only two kinds of music worth listening to....
Country and Western. Ain't nobody can touch a cowboy poet....


Youve been over there too long. I would rather cutt my ears off than listen to that

[strictlybroadband]

Punk is still very much alive and kicking and has been since it burst onto the music scene in 76. The common misconception is that it only lasted a couple of years then died but, in reality, it just disappeared from the charts and was ignored by the music press. Check out local gigs and you'll be surprised how many of the old bands from the 70's and early 80's have reformed and are gigging again to decent sized audiences plus plenty of new bands springing up all over the place.

Take it from an old-timer; punk died out around '78 and was reborn by a new generation later on. The Sex Pistols vanished in the 70s and reappeared for their Filthy Lucre tour in 1995/6, realising that there was renewed interest in them. To my knowledge there was no punk action happening in the 80s.

[ukwebmasters]

uk subs, uk subs, uk subs

harper (v) garrett (g) gibbs (b) roberts (d)
well, paul slack (b) and pete davies (d) 2

crash course live finsbury park rainbow 1980
fucking classik

some shit:

http://www.amazon.com/Brand-New-Age-U-K-Subs/dp/B00004TAC2/sr=8-4/qid=1165229949/ref=pd_bbs_4/002-9663288-9281633?ie=UTF8&s=music

[daveydude]

To my knowledge there was no punk action happening in the 80s.

I beg to differ. A lot of the older bands carried on while new bands picked up the flag - Snuff, Wat Tyler, Thatcher on Acid, HDQ, and Instigators to name a few. They were largely ignored by the media but they were there.

[ukwebmasters]

actually, DOOM were gr8: 1987-1988 war crimes and all that shit, some kind of peace punk / death punk thing going on there - can't remember their exact niche but I still listen to 'police bastard' and their drummer was called 'stick' lol

[strictlybroadband]

I beg to differ. A lot of the older bands carried on while new bands picked up the flag - Snuff, Wat Tyler, Thatcher on Acid, HDQ, and Instigators to name a few. They were largely ignored by the media but they were there.

I stand corrected... the 80s are a bit hazy for me. :)

I remember a lot of old punk names re-emerging in the 90s dance scene - like John Lydon working with Leftfield.

[gav]

Take it from an old-timer; punk died out around '78 and was reborn by a new generation later on. The Sex Pistols vanished in the 70s and reappeared for their Filthy Lucre tour in 1995/6, realising that there was renewed interest in them. To my knowledge there was no punk action happening in the 80s.

Sorry Strictly but sounds like you missed the boat on the 80's punk scene as it was huge just mainly underground and away from the public glare of 70's punk.

Like Nottslad I was a bit too young for the 70's and just heard the real big groups like Sex Pistol, Damned, SLF etc but the 80's was my era and there was 100's of bands formed playing out to packed audiences. The bands such as Exploited, Anti-Nowhere League, Vice Squad, Action Pact, Partisans, Adicts, Flux of Pink Indians, Discharge had formed and were heading the scene along with a few of the older groups who were still around. Crass, a band in their own right, had formed their own label which released stacks of vinyl with loads of groups coming under the anarchy, animal liberation, ban the bomb banner. Then their was Oi!, or street punk as its often now known, which took its influences from groups such as Sham 69, Cockney Rejects, Menace and played to a mixture of punk and skinhead audiences. A whole host of bands recorded tracks for the big Oi! labels like Syndicate, No Future, Secret and later Link.

I could go into a lot more details or even into the post 85 punk and Oi! scene if you'd like but probably bore you all to death. Safe to say the music was very much alive and kicking all the way through the 80's and was seen more of a way of life rather than the poseurs and fashion groupies of 70's punk.