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turn on bbc1

[NumptyNuts]

Fuck em kick them the hell out of the country - any one related to the twats they lifted today should be shpipped out of Europe and let them go suffer in some half developed country.

Its time for some possitive discrimination

[Alf Garnet]

Fuck em kick them the hell out of the country - any one related to the twats they lifted today should be shpipped out of Europe and let them go suffer in some half developed country.

Its time for some possitive discrimination

Thank fuck. Someone with a bit of sense

[Rosie]

Sense? Positive Discrimination?

What are you two on?

[Cardinal_Sin]

Sense? Positive Discrimination?

What are you two on?

Reality trip

[-HF]

if it's a reality trip, how would you kick out people with UK passports, who supposedly did the 7/7 bombings? cos of skin colour? hair colour? garlic smell?

[Alf Garnet]

if it's a reality trip, how would you kick out people with UK passports, who supposedly did the 7/7 bombings? cos of skin colour? hair colour? garlic smell?

Garlic smell :takethat:

You usually talk a complete load of twoddle, but even I laughed at that one

[-HF]

did i find something simple enough for you to get it then, awesome. :D

[Alf Garnet]

Theres an easy way. Deport anyone whos got a second passport from any country that has pose a threat to our nations.

Regardless of colour

[Alf Garnet]

:takethat:

[Alf Garnet]

:did i find something simple enough for you to get it then, awesome. :

yep cheers, you finally did something other than make useless points that have no relevance to anything.

Well done, you are learning :takethat:

[-HF]

one accomodates to the society. if there are children, one seeks ways to make them understand.

of course that was just an expamle. ;)

[Cardinal_Sin]

if it's a reality trip, how would you kick out people with UK passports, who supposedly did the 7/7 bombings? cos of skin colour? hair colour? garlic smell?

if it's a reality trip, how would you kick out people with UK passports, who supposedly did the 7/7 bombings?


Um... Wouldn't want to kick them out - Those guys are pretty much dead -

[-HF]

if it's a reality trip, how would you kick out people with UK passports, who supposedly did the 7/7 bombings?


Um... Wouldn't want to kick them out - Those guys are pretty much dead -


so there aren't any more of those around? sounded a tad different the other day.

and seeing you too have issues getting the point, let me modify the question (this is rather funny in fact :D)

if it's a reality trip, how would you kick out people with UK passports, like those who supposedly did the 7/7 bombings?

[Geezer]

any one related to the twats they lifted today should be shpipped out

So just being related to someone makes you guilty?

Imagine if this became the way things were done and one of your relatives, a cousin you last saw when you was 8, murders someone. Does this mean you would be punished for his crime as well?

[Cardinal_Sin]

so there aren't any more of those around? sounded a tad different the other day.

and seeing you too have issues getting the point, let me modify the question (this is rather funny in fact :D)

if it's a reality trip, how would you kick out people with UK passports, like those who supposedly did the 7/7 bombings?

I don't have any issues -

Fact is loads of people (Brit muslims) have been to these Madras schools and are now walking round England with a whole load of hate - I saw a programme recently where a tape was found (In the flat in Spane where some terrorists blew themselves up rather than face justice) relating to these terrorists wanting revenge for something that happened over 500 years ago -
Quite simply - Those are the people I would be happy to see kicked out - I am not a racists - When I was a footballer, I saw what rasicm did to some of my team mates and would never go down that road for any reason.
I simply want a better, safer Britain - World.
That won't happen if the wrong descisions are going to be made.

[-HF]

I don't have any issues -

Fact is loads of people (Brit muslims) have been to these Madras schools and are now walking round England with a whole load of hate - I saw a programme recently where a tape was found (In the flat in Spane where some terrorists blew themselves up rather than face justice) relating to these terrorists wanting revenge for something that happened over 500 years ago -
Quite simply - Those are the people I would be happy to see kicked out - I am not a racists - When I was a footballer, I saw what rasicm did to some of my team mates and would never go down that road for any reason.
I simply want a better, safer Britain - World.
That won't happen if the wrong descisions are going to be made.


then please answer the simple question. HOW would you kick out people with UK passports. define the rules. of course we all know you cannot kick someone out who has citizenship, those times of exiles are gone.

[Geezer]

I don't have any issues -

Fact is loads of people (Brit muslims) have been to these Madras schools and are now walking round England with a whole load of hate - I saw a programme recently where a tape was found (In the flat in Spane where some terrorists blew themselves up rather than face justice) relating to these terrorists wanting revenge for something that happened over 500 years ago -
Quite simply - Those are the people I would be happy to see kicked out - I am not a racists - When I was a footballer, I saw what rasicm did to some of my team mates and would never go down that road for any reason.
I simply want a better, safer Britain - World.
That won't happen if the wrong descisions are going to be made.


Maybe you should wait until you return here to live before trying to help us out.

[Cardinal_Sin]

then please answer the simple question. HOW would you kick out people with UK passports. define the rules. of course we all know you cannot kick someone out who has citizenship, those times of exiles are gone.

If those people CHOOSE to live a life where all others (and I mean all races) are going to be considered a legitimate target, then they have to be neutrilised - If jail is the only option - then that may be -

Geezer, I can live where I like, I still pay a huge amount of taxes to the British government every year.
Everyone has their own opinions - We live and choose to do what we feel is right. Fortunately, not everyone is the same.
If a terrorist chooses to make a political statement by terminating several people, then my opinion is quite simple - We must find a way for decent people not to be used in this way.
There are currently several hundred people living in Britain who have attended Madras schools in Pakistan - These schools are unlicenced, and not registered, they are also not monitored by the Pakistani government - And it is a proven fact that they are a breeding ground for extremist views.

[-HF]

so we moved from deporting (kicking out) to jail now. ok.

still, what defines who goes to jail over their life style? and how exactly d oyou know what lifstyle they chose? anyone could come here with a fake account for example and act like some extremist shithead, while in fact he is winding you up and you get along well with them on their real account.

how do you make sure you do not lock people away because of misunderstandings or false reports on them. as it has happened before. people being denunciated is nothing new to mankind.

and i'm not winding you up at all here, i'm seriously interested in your ideas, maybe you have the one solution that is searched for since centuries.

[Geezer]

Geezer, I can live where I like.

You certainly can but stop going on about what should done here when you don't even live here.

Everyone has their own opinions - We live and choose to do what we feel is right. Fortunately, not everyone is the same.

Exactly and Muslims live and choose to do wht they feel is right.

What do you think should be done to the relatives of British and American troops who have bombed innocent people?

Oh no I forgot it's perfectly acceptable for us and America to bomb the shit out of innocent people in the name of war, but we shouldn't expect the "Enemy" to retaliate.

[Cardinal_Sin]

so we moved from deporting (kicking out) to jail now. ok.

still, what defines who goes to jail over their life style? and how exactly d oyou know what lifstyle they chose? anyone could come here with a fake account for example and act like some extremist shithead, while in fact he is winding you up and you get along well with them on their real account.

how do you make sure you do not lock people away because of misunderstandings or false reports on them. as it has happened before. people being denunciated is nothing new to mankind.

and i'm not winding you up at all here, i'm seriously interested in your ideas, maybe you have the one solution that is searched for since centuries.

I am a webmaster with opinions - I don't do Police work.
Police, as far as I know, don't do webmaster work -

[-HF]

I am a webmaster with opinions - I don't do Police work.
Police, as far as I know, don't do webmaster work -

so you are OK with campaigning and spreading anti muslim statements, wanting them kicked out if they choose the wrong way of living but are either not ready or not capable of explaining what exactly you are campaigning about. as long as it gets the non-whites out, isn't it?

cheers for getting that one straight for us.

[NumptyNuts]

then please answer the simple question. HOW would you kick out people with UK passports. define the rules. of course we all know you cannot kick someone out who has citizenship, those times of exiles are gone.


You can expspeel them for treason, thats what this is that is happening in Londond. The only way to fight these people is make seriuos examples and show that by fucking about with peoples lives they run the risk of their whole family loosing their lives, business's etc.

Theres no heros in heaven folks, its eay for people outside of London or those who do not have to use the tubes. IMHO the only way we can deal with this horrible situation is to prove that for every action there is a big reaction by our government.

WHY should we continue to have the family of a terrorist within our own system? Im sick of arguing with people over our so called 'Stiff Upper Lip' and the 'British Way is to get on with it..' Well if we keep turning a blind eye then the future looks really shite for my kids thats for sure.

I seen with my own eyes a number of times what the IRA did to London, at least they told us in advance what they were going to do so people could clear the area. These so called British Citizens are just filling a bag with explosive then blowing it up on a train.

If you think this is out of order then thats fair enough, we live in country where we can have freedom of speach, up until recently people were stood on our streets preaching to people how the west was bad.

these bombings wont stop this is not a race / religion thing in my eyes its just dam right treason.

[-HF]

You can expspeel them for treason,

where to? if the reports are correct all of the 4 supposed bombers of 7/7 were UK citizens only. which country do you think would take on someone you take citizenship off because they are a threat? these weren't refugess you can send home.

jeez folks, get real.

[Guest]

WHY should we continue to have the family of a terrorist within our own system?
Maybe because the family probably aren't terrorists themselves?

[Geezer]

Maybe because the family probably aren't terrorists themselves?

Exactly, that was my point earlier.
Just because someone is related to a "terrorist" they have to be punished as well?, how fucking stupid.

So if my uncle gets nicked for being a "terrorist" then I should be punished for his actions, sounds like the Foriegn Legion.

What about friends of these people, should they be punished as well?

Like I said if this was the way of the world for all crimes and your friend or a relative commits murder, you should be punished as well????

[Geezer]

Theres no heros in heaven folks, its eay for people outside of London...

What, like Poland :takethat:

[NumptyNuts]

Maybe because the family probably aren't terrorists themselves?

Maybe they are not themselves who knows, it was by all accounts a member of HIS family sent their lad to Pakistan in the first place to meet THEIR family.

The whole thing is a sorry state of affairs and one as I said I fear will get a lot worse unless we act and act hard.

[Geezer]

where to? if the reports are correct all of the 4 supposed bombers of 7/7 were UK citizens only. which country do you think would take on someone you take citizenship off because they are a threat? these weren't refugess you can send home.

jeez folks, get real.

That is a good point and I would also like to know where we could "expel" Brtish Citizens to.

[JP]

That is a good point and I would also like to know where we could "expel" Brtish Citizens to.
Lundy.

[NumptyNuts]

Exactly, that was my point earlier.
Just because someone is related to a "terrorist" they have to be punished as well?, how fucking stupid.

So if my uncle gets nicked for being a "terrorist" then I should be punished for his actions, sounds like the Foriegn Legion.

What about friends of these people, should they be punished as well?

Like I said if this was the way of the world for all crimes and your friend or a relative commits murder, you should be punished as well????


this is not murder mate - its treason -

treason
(also high treason)

• noun the crime of betraying one’s country, especially by attempting to kill or overthrow the sovereign or government.

Thats is what is the crime, its not murder, its not terror, just plain and simple treason -

[Geezer]

this is not murder mate - its treason -

treason
(also high treason)

• noun the crime of betraying one’s country, especially by attempting to kill or overthrow the sovereign or government.

Thats is what is the crime, its not murder, its not terror, just plain and simple treason -

Oh I didn't realise they are trying to overthrow the Government.

So... "crime of betraying one’s country" so you admit it is thier country, hence making them British Citizens, so if we do as you say, where do we send them to, their own country? :takethat:

My murder analogy is in response to you suggesting that anyone related to these bombers must be punished as well.

[Cardinal_Sin]

so you are OK with campaigning and spreading anti muslim statements, wanting them kicked out if they choose the wrong way of living but are either not ready or not capable of explaining what exactly you are campaigning about. as long as it gets the non-whites out, isn't it?

cheers for getting that one straight for us.

I am not campaigning - I told you many times I have opinions
I have not made any anti-muslim statements
I have never campained to get out non whites -

If a white guy chooses to blow up innocent victime in any name (Likes of Timothy Mcviegh, then white supporters of those actions should be delt with in the stiffest possible way -

[NumptyNuts]

Oh I didn't realise they are trying to overthrow the Government.

So... "crime of betraying one’s country" so you admit it is thier country, hence making them British Citizens, so if we do as you say, where do we send them to, their own country? :takethat:

My murder analogy is in response to you suggesting that anyone related to these bombers must be punished as well.

what in the million bits they are left in?????

And hell yes passport or no passport they can go seak asylum, thats what people do when they can't stay in their native home.

[-HF]

Exactly, that was my point earlier.
Just because someone is related to a "terrorist" they have to be punished as well?, how fucking stupid.

So if my uncle gets nicked for being a "terrorist" then I should be punished for his actions, sounds like the Foriegn Legion.

What about friends of these people, should they be punished as well?

Like I said if this was the way of the world for all crimes and your friend or a relative commits murder, you should be punished as well????


if the theory about everyone being related to everyone else through 6 instances or less is correct, we could just commit mass suicide and get over with it. :D

[-HF]

Maybe they are not themselves who knows, it was by all accounts a member of HIS family sent their lad to Pakistan in the first place to meet THEIR family.

how do you know? do you suggest a muslim doesn't make own decisions, despite being grown up and all? they always only do what their family says?

[Geezer]

I am not campaigning - I told you many times I have opinions
I have not made any anti-muslim statements
I have never campained to get out non whites -

If a white guy chooses to blow up innocent victime in any name (Likes of Timothy Mcviegh, then white supporters of those actions should be delt with in the stiffest possible way -

So now just supporting or agreeing with peoples actions should get you punished.

I'll use my murder analogy again :)

If someone killed a child molestor I'm sure a lot of people would support those actions, would you expect them to be punished as well?

[NumptyNuts]

Positive Discrimination?

This happens in the real world, when two people of equal ability, education etc apply for job - they can only be seperated on their cultral background.

Currently the swing is with the person who is of a more ethnic background - this happens and happens a lot in the public sector.

Why its it not so unfair when the role is reversed?

[Geezer]

what in the million bits they are left in?????

Why would they be in a million pieces? you said that anyone related to them.

any one related to the twats they lifted today should be shpipped out of Europe

[NumptyNuts]

how do you know? do you suggest a muslim doesn't make own decisions, despite being grown up and all? they always only do what their family says?

Who said they were muslims?

[NumptyNuts]

Why would they be in a million pieces? you said that anyone related to them.


because the comment I was looking at sugested we were talking about the bomber :-) slight misunderstanding one feels :)

[-HF]

I am not campaigning - I told you many times I have opinions

you claimed having opinons once, while you suggested several times they should be kicked out or put in jail, even just for their lifestyle, which would in worst case mean without actually breaking any laws.

[-HF]

Who said they were muslims?


oh right, so you have better sources than all the news sites, awesome. enlighten us? who do you refer to with being sent to Pakistan then when you say
Maybe they are not themselves who knows, it was by all accounts a member of HIS family sent their lad to Pakistan in the first place to meet THEIR family.
if not the 7/7 bombers? ;)

[NumptyNuts]

[QUOTE=-HF]oh right, so you have better sources than all the news sites, awesome. enlighten us? who do you refer to with being sent to Pakistan then when you say[QUOTE]

Im not judging anyone by their colour or religious beliefs, I have never done that and never will. I will however judge people by their actions and I will say it again and keep saying it this is an act of treason.

[-HF]

The whole thing is a sorry state of affairs and one as I said I fear will get a lot worse unless we act and act hard.


actions are finally being taken. arson, bomb threats to mosques, at least 500 attacks on asian looking people since 7/7, .... :thumbsup:

[-HF]

Im not judging anyone by their colour or religious beliefs, I have never done that and never will. I will however judge people by their actions and I will say it again and keep saying it this is an act of treason.


fair enough. so who did you refer to with the Pakistan comment, if not the bomb suspects of 7/7?

[Guest]

So it's treason, how does this change anything?

[NumptyNuts]

actions are finally being taken. arson, bomb threats to mosques, at least 500 attacks on asian looking people since 7/7, .... :thumbsup:

see thats not right :mad: do you know how the money is raised in the UK to build mosques?

Its pretty good way - each house hold within certain area of planed mosque pays a form of tax each month / year until the funds have been raised to build it.

Thats a good community spirit destroying them, attacking them is just dam right disrespectful and something I totally appose.

Keep going at this rate and we will have this civil war :mad:

[NumptyNuts]

So it's treason, how does this change anything?

Because treason is still a capital offence in the UK and its treason that over throws societies and destroys countires.

[Guest]

Treason was abolished as a capital offence in 1998.

[Cardinal_Sin]

So now just supporting or agreeing with peoples actions should get you punished.

I'll use my murder analogy again :)

If someone killed a child molestor I'm sure a lot of people would support those actions, would you expect them to be punished as well?

Support as in help

You and the other guy have lots to say about us who are openly critical of terrorists - But nothing against the terrorists themselves.
I don't mind - If you are both so cowardly as to not want to stop them killing innocent individuals, that is fine by me. At least by their actions in putting the lights out of one of those bastards today, the Police are showing they are not going to pussy=foot around with them - What would you have done - Given them a few grand to purchase some better quality bomb making materials?

[Cardinal_Sin]

you claimed having opinons once, while you suggested several times they should be kicked out or put in jail, even just for their lifestyle, which would in worst case mean without actually breaking any laws.

Please read the whole thread again - If, that is possible - Or is English not your first language?
I said once about kicking out - I said once about jailing them - And I was referring to terrorists and their supporters (Those people that make the plans and brainwash kids into doing their work)

[-HF]

Please read the whole thread again - If, that is possible - Or is English not your first language?
I said once about kicking out - I said once about jailing them - And I was referring to terrorists and their supporters (Those people that make the plans and brainwash kids into doing their work)


then maybe you could try to explain for the first time how you

a. guarantee you do not kick out/imprison anyone wrongly
b. render the rules the jedgements would be made by

if you are not too much of a coward to stand up for your positions that is. :D
it's as always easy to spout of from a safe place, as you prove with basically every post in this thread.

[Geezer]

Support as in help

You and the other guy have lots to say about us who are openly critical of terrorists - But nothing against the terrorists themselves.
I don't mind - If you are both so cowardly as to not want to stop them killing innocent individuals, that is fine by me. At least by their actions in putting the lights out of one of those bastards today, the Police are showing they are not going to pussy=foot around with them - What would you have done - Given them a few grand to purchase some better quality bomb making materials?

Nah I'll leave that to the yanks.
I have nothing against the terrorists themselves, I didn't/don't know them :takethat: .

Obviously killing innocent people is wrong, but we keep hearing Blair and Bush going on about the "War on terrorism" see the word "war". So surely in a "war" you have to expect casualties.

You say "If you are both so cowardly as to not want to stop them killing innocent individuals, that is fine by me."

I would like everyone to stop killing innocent people, including the UK and USA Governments, but if you are so cowardly as to not want that then that is fine by me.

[Cardinal_Sin]

then maybe you could try to explain for the first time how you

a. guarantee you do not kick out/imprison anyone wrongly
b. render the rules the jedgements would be made by

if you are not too much of a coward to stand up for your positions that is. :D
it's as always easy to spout of from a safe place, as you prove with basically every post in this thread.

a & b are both down to the Police

The rest of your garble makes no sense -

[-HF]

a & b are both down to the Police

The rest of your garble makes no sense -


well, again you prove you spout off about something you obviously have no clue of, else you would have solutions or at least ideas at hand.

cheers for setting things on that straight. although we are going round and round here, you release some hateful nonsense and jump back as soon as you are asked to back up your "opinions".

starts getting boring. :D

[Cardinal_Sin]

well, again you prove you spout off about something you obviously have no clue of, else you would have solutions or at least ideas at hand.

cheers for setting things on that straight. although we are going round and round here, you release some hateful nonsense and jump back as soon as you are asked to back up your "opinions".

starts getting boring. :D
Deabate is best without silly comments -

[-HF]

Deabate is best without silly comments -


absolutely agree with you there, so why not let us in on your masterplan to get rid of the bad guys? surely someone using such strong words like you do must have something up their sleeve already?

[NumptyNuts]

absolutely agree with you there, so why not let us in on your masterplan to get rid of the bad guys? surely someone using such strong words like you do must have something up their sleeve already?

How would you deal with it?

[-HF]

How would you deal with it?


nice try Paul, i am not the one asking everyone remotely related to possible threats being kicked out or imprisoned though. ;)

i'm not the one asking for extreme measures, you and some others apear to be, so inform us how you avoid innocents getting in the line of fire. unless of course that isn't a problem for you. which would make you no better than those you oppose so massively.

while i have your attention, i'd still like to know where you think you could expel someone to who is holding a UK passport only?

[NumptyNuts]

while i have your attention, i'd still like to know where you think you could expel someone to who is holding a UK passport only?

I bet it can be done, my view may sound very extreme to others - I just remember when the IRA and the Goverment agreed to stop fighting London went back to Normal - a state I had not seen since I was a very young boy.

I dont think it would be too difficult for our government to 'evict' some one and pull their passport.

As things stand we have shocked people, the only persons we can get to who were involved are dead - an example has to be made to show this will not be tollerated.

IF there is one person in their family who thinks it though not openly that their relation was a 'hero' represents a danger to us all. Removing them from our shores will show that this type of hero really screws things up for the whole family.

(we can discuss this when we next meet over a beer :-) )

Each of the victims has a family they are all suffering as a result of a few peoples actions, lets not forget that either.

[-HF]

yes Paul, you can take their passport, you can also try and evict them, but where to? who'd let them in without a passport or citizenship? that's where the hole in the plan is.

Each of the victims has a family they are all suffering as a result of a few peoples actions, lets not forget that either.

has anyone ever said that wasn't the case?

anyone where you have a legal case at hand, take them to court, use every possibility the laws give you, nothing wrong with that. i even go as far to say use death penalty in certain cases, if they are bullet proof (these cases include more than mass murder, i'd for example happily see child molesters off'ed, if it's 100% sure they are guilty)

starting a witchhunt, introducing liability of all the members of a family for the crimes of one member, that's rather extremist. and we are against extremism, aren't we?

[-HF]

(we can discuss this when we next meet over a beer :-) )


i promise not to stare at you while listenting to your remarks this time :D

[JT]

Ive been out all day, installing a photocopier, what have I missed?

[Geezer]

Each of the victims has a family they are all suffering as a result of a few peoples actions, lets not forget that either.

What about the families of the so called "suicide bombers" are they not suffering as well?

Have you ever considered that these people did NOT know what they had in their rucksacks?

Maybe they thought they were off to do a massive leaflet drop, maybe they were handed boxes of "leaflets" not knowing that some contained explosives.

What if your 17 year old child got involved in something you are totally opposed to and ended up killing someone.

Would you love them any less? - probably not
Does it mean you agree with what they did? - probably not
Should YOU be punished for their crimes? - absoloutly not

You keep saying basically the same thing "I dont think it would be too difficult for our government to 'evict' some one and pull their passport"

Where would they be "evicted" to?

[Cardinal_Sin]

anyone where you have a legal case at hand, take them to court, use every possibility the laws give you, nothing wrong with that. i even go as far to say use death penalty in certain cases, if they are bullet proof (these cases include more than mass murder, i'd for example happily see child molesters off'ed, if it's 100% sure they are guilty)

Whatever road you take, there are bound to be bumps along the way - There will always be innocent victims sitting in jails -
But an innocent person wrongly deemed a terrorist sitting in jail or suddenly finding himself in the middle of the Sahara Desert isn't half as bad as the innocent victim of a genuine terrorist - At least he still has that most precious commodity of all, life.
We have a good record of human rights in the uk, but sometimes the fine line between keeping to that may have to crossed if there is a chance that terrorism could win the day - And many people are saying now, that the current problems could have been part of a plan dating back years and to defeat terrorism in the uk alone could take up to 20 years.
So I feel legislation against terrorism should have that in mind and make laws for this century and get rid of the laws dating back to the last millenium.
Extending a period of detainment for upto 6 months without charge, would give the police both time to investigate the detainee interrogate him.
Making terrorism a death penalty wouldn't make a difference to the terrorist (foot soldier) as they had already planned on dying anyway - Giving them life and meaning life would hurt them more (Mandtory rule 43 would mean they would be spending their remaining life with some pretty evil perverts)!
For the non foot soldiers (the recruiters, trainers etc) Public stoning to death - Why not - They want to live in the stone age, let them die in it.
The Police already have a huge list of suspects given to them by the British Muslim Community - These people need to be detained asap - If no proof can be found against any individual, then he must be freed.
If he is found to be a terrorist then he stays for a trial - Many cases uk muslims have dual citizenship and dual passports - If this is the case, his uk passport must be revoked.
Clerics such as Omar Bakri Mohammed who come here and live of our state and preech how evil we are must be deported, stoned or jailed with 43'ers - (Don't favour the first idea as it leaves them alive to continue recruiting kids as human bomb foot soldiers.)

[-HF]

Whatever road you take, there are bound to be bumps along the way - There will always be innocent victims sitting in jails -
But an innocent person wrongly deemed a terrorist sitting in jail or suddenly finding himself in the middle of the Sahara Desert isn't half as bad as the innocent victim of a genuine terrorist - At least he still has that most precious commodity of all, life.

this is as far as i even bothered to read, cos again you start hurling out nonsense. let's look at it in detail.

Whatever road you take, there are bound to be bumps along the way - There will always be innocent victims sitting in jails

not only is this against the declaration of human rights which i am pretty sure the UK has agreed to as well, surely you now will tell us that in a heated up situation as of now a muslim or asian prisoner will be absolutely save, there are no nationalist assholes in the prisons (just as outside) hurting them? :rolleyes:

But an innocent person wrongly deemed a terrorist sitting in jail or suddenly finding himself in the middle of the Sahara Desert isn't half as bad as the innocent victim of a genuine terrorist - At least he still has that most precious commodity of all, life.

ah, so we are now back to deporting them, maybe you would be so generous and explain in a reasonable amount of detail where you would expel someone to who holds a UK passport only, as the 4 guys of 7/7 supposedly did (this is assuming they are not fucking up even more, seeing they already showed a wrong passport in one case)?
right after you gave a brief idea about the rules by which the decision who to treat as threat is made.

secondly, have you even been following the news at all? supposedly the extemists in Iraq do attack Iraqis they deem to friendly towards the west. how do you guarantee that doesn't happen to anyone innocent sent there or any other place?

[Cardinal_Sin]

this is as far as i even bothered to read, cos again you start hurling out nonsense. let's look at it in detail.



not only is this against the declaration of human rights which i am pretty sure the UK has agreed to as well, surely you now will tell us that in a heated up situation as of now a muslim or asian prisoner will be absolutely save, there are no nationalist assholes in the prisons (just as outside) hurting them? :rolleyes:



ah, so we are now back to deporting them, maybe you would be so generous and explain in a reasonable amount of detail where you would expel someone to who holds a UK passport only, as the 4 guys of 7/7 supposedly did (this is assuming they are not fucking up even more, seeing they already showed a wrong passport in one case)?
right after you gave a brief idea about the rules by which the decision who to treat as threat is made.

secondly, have you even been following the news at all? supposedly the extemists in Iraq do attack Iraqis they deem to friendly towards the west. how do you guarantee that doesn't happen to anyone innocent sent there or any other place?



Tell you what asswipe - You sit around and do nothing - Learn to read or simply fuck off - I'll help you if you need - np

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Tell you what asswipe - You sit around and do nothing - Learn to read or simply fuck off - I'll help you if you need - np


translation: i have no arguments really, hence i resort to personal attacks.

classy. :D

it's cute though how you go round in circles, you camapign for either deporting people or putting them in jail, yet fail to think of the slightest idea by what rules people would be condemned, and seek excuses like 'i am not the police'. right on. :thumbsup:
nota bene, the police doesn't set up the rules anyway. gouvernments do. police executes them.

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[Geezer]

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[Rosie]

This happens in the real world, when two people of equal ability, education etc apply for job - they can only be seperated on their cultral background.

Currently the swing is with the person who is of a more ethnic background - this happens and happens a lot in the public sector.

Why its it not so unfair when the role is reversed?

Actually no, that's not the definition of positive discrimination at all. What you're describing is just discrimination.

[NumptyNuts]

What about the families of the so called "suicide bombers" are they not suffering as well?

Have you ever considered that these people did NOT know what they had in their rucksacks?

Maybe they thought they were off to do a massive leaflet drop, maybe they were handed boxes of "leaflets" not knowing that some contained explosives.

What if your 17 year old child got involved in something you are totally opposed to and ended up killing someone.

Would you love them any less? - probably not
Does it mean you agree with what they did? - probably not
Should YOU be punished for their crimes? - absoloutly not

You keep saying basically the same thing "I dont think it would be too difficult for our government to 'evict' some one and pull their passport"

Where would they be "evicted" to?

he knew what was in his bag - evict to America, I hear they have a nice Island where they can hang out.

[Rosie]

First up, just want to apologise to you Paul if you think I'm going out of my way to disagree with you - that's not the case and it's purely a difference of opinion :)

You can expspeel them for treason, thats what this is that is happening in Londond. The only way to fight these people is make seriuos examples and show that by fucking about with peoples lives they run the risk of their whole family loosing their lives, business's etc.

So what you're basically saying is that it's ok to involve innocent people who have done no wrong (the families of the terrorists)... why is that any different from the bombers who have involved innocent people? And it is ONLY the innocent who are getting hurt in both of these scenarios, not the guilty at all.

Theres no heros in heaven folks, its eay for people outside of London or those who do not have to use the tubes. IMHO the only way we can deal with this horrible situation is to prove that for every action there is a big reaction by our government.

Some would argue that that is exactly how we got into this situation in the first place - our governments misplaced big reaction. We'll never know for certain whether we would have been targeted in the UK had we not supported the invasions in Afghanistan and Iraq, but my own opinion is that I suspect not.


If you think this is out of order then thats fair enough, we live in country where we can have freedom of speach, up until recently people were stood on our streets preaching to people how the west was bad.

I don't believe for one second we have freedom of speech in this country - and neither do we pretend to it.... we wouldn't have the BBFC if we did :)

[Geezer]

he knew what was in his bag - evict to America, I hear they have a nice Island where they can hang out.

How do you know he knew what he was carrying?

Maybe he DID know what was in his bag, leaflets as far as he knew, if you are telling us you know for a fact that he knew he was carrying explosives then I would question your relationship there and maybe think about expelling you.

[NumptyNuts]

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I don't believe for one second we have freedom of speech in this country - and neither do we pretend to it.... we wouldn't have the BBFC if we did :)

on a totally different note, there was this interesting report on Channel 4 (i think) in June, where they placed a mole inside the Labour campaign teams, showing up how much they manipulate events with fake cheering people and journalists asking unwanted questions being blocked away.

i wondered WTF show it then, months after the elections. it won't stay in peoples' minds till the next elections and is too late to help making their minds up for the last one.
it seemed like saying neener neener neener, look what crooks you voted for.


obviously i'm not saying the other parties don't work in a similar fashion.

[Rosie]

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:)

Now that's a blast from the past - I did love Foxy :)

[Geezer]

You fight fire with fire, today a man was on the deck with three plain clothes
on top of him, he was shot five times. European convention on human rights means nothing, when push comes to shove the British establishment is one of the most ruthless (and rightly so) thats why these attacks have taken so long to come to fruition and relatively speaking were not very effective.

Muslims put their religion before their nationality, as an atheist I can tolerate religion but when it gets to this level I'm afraid all bets are off.

So now the police become judge jury and executionors.
They chased a man, caught him and then jumped on him only to fire 5 rounds into his head. Surely if he was a suicide bomber he would have detonated any exploves he was carrying before the police had any chance of shooting him.

They were trying to say he was one of the four who attempted to explode the bombs, then why the fuck are they showing FOUR CCTV images and asking for them to be identified?
Surely they would only be looking for three seeing as they had just killed one in cold blood.

So killing a deaf student who was late for college is justifiable because he MIGHT have been a terrorist.

[Rosie]

So now the police become judge jury and executionors.
They chased a man, caught him and then jumped on him only to fire 5 rounds into his head. Surely if he was a suicide bomber he would have detonated any exploves he was carrying before the police had any chance of shooting him.

They were trying to say he was one of the four who attempted to explode the bombs, then why the fuck are they showing FOUR CCTV images and asking for them to be identified?
Surely they would only be looking for three seeing as they had just killed one in cold blood.

So killing a deaf student who was late for college is justifiable because he MIGHT have been a terrorist.

I'm sure the police had their reasons, and I'm equally sure their reasons will turn out to be justified. However, the one thing that keeps popping into my mind is the fact that he was challenged by plain clothes armed officers. Now, if in light of everything that's happened recently, someone in civvies pulled a gun at me I'm not completely sure I'd stick around to find out what they wanted, I'd be out of there as fast as my legs would carry me.

And yeah OK, probably get shot in the head for doing so LOL

[Geezer]

Now that's a blast from the past - I did love Foxy :)

Yeah and now ole Mrs Johnson (Hilda Braid) is alive and well as Nana Moon :)

It's funny I thought she was that old in Citizen Smith :p

[JT]

Now that's a blast from the past - I did love Foxy :)

LOL it was wolfey, not foxy. wolfy, power to the people. With Lesly ash :)

[Geezer]

I'm sure the police had their reasons, and I'm equally sure their reasons will turn out to be justified. However, the one thing that keeps popping into my mind is the fact that he was challenged by plain clothes armed officers. Now, if in light of everything that's happened recently, someone in civvies pulled a gun at me I'm not completely sure I'd stick around to find out what they wanted, I'd be out of there as fast as my legs would carry me.

And yeah OK, probably get shot in the head for doing so LOL

I'm sure their reasons will be justified as well, once they've planted a few bits and pieces and got their stories straight :eek:

There is no justification for shooting an unarmed man.

What if this bloke, who just happens to be asian, is feeling a bit paranoid because everyone thinks he must be guilty cos he's asian, realises four men are after him, then he sees one has a gun.

Like you said Rosie, I would be on my toes pretty sharpish.

[Geezer]

That's right, they went after some guy for NO REASON whatsoever and per chance he was a "deaf student"
A few too many cans in the pool fatty !

So you know more facts than the rest of us then?

Have the police never got anything wrong before?

How many times have armed police shot innocent unarmed men?

I see your level of debate comes down to personal insults, well done.

[dvtimes]

Look.

At the end of the day, you can not stop people placing bombs.
Look.

At the end of the day, you can not stop people placing bombs.

Your presuming that yesterdays (Fridays) tube attack was done on religious reasons. Unless I have missed it, no one has yet claimed they did it.

In other words, it could be just some nutters getting on the band wagon.

People go nuts all the time and go around killing.

Not that long ago that chap went around his village shooting people.

Its happened a few times in the USA.

There is nothing you can do to stop it.

Of course in all religions you get nut cases. Lets face it, I bet there are some religious nutters who would stone us to death for doing porn.

But there has been some good from all this. We now are able to discuss religion and the way its being taught. A few weeks ago, if you dared say anything about any religion, you were a bigit and the political correct lot would be on your tail telling you off.

But we now have a chance to discuss this matter sensibly.

I have lots of friends who are Muslim, and they are cool.

But, I do think some Muslims do create problems. These being the ladies who totally cover there faces. I have no problem with the head, but I personally find it insulting when someone covers there face. This has nothing to do with religion. I personally do not believe this helps Muslims, but to create mistrust.

To me Muslims, or indeed anyone of any religion or belief who do not wish to live by a western open and liberal culter, should not live in the UK, or indeed push there beliefs onto others.

By this, I mean that if you intend to live in the UK you should except that people are free to do most legal things. An example is when an advert of a girl in a bikini is riped up on a billboard. I accept that if its outside a mosk, then yes that's in bad taste. But when its in a city centre, then its wrong.

One should not expect others to live by your laws. However its good manners to understand and respect religious beliefs, and wrong to offend people on purpose.

Its a bit like me going to Turkey. I would not go nude on the beaches as its a Muslim country. I also would not blow up buildings in Turkey just because they were not doing what I wanted. If I was not happy with the country, I would either leave or go into politics to change the situation.

[Guest]

on a totally different note, there was this interesting report on Channel 4 (i think) in June, where they placed a mole inside the Labour campaign teams, showing up how much they manipulate events with fake cheering people and journalists asking unwanted questions being blocked away.

i wondered WTF show it then, months after the elections. it won't stay in peoples' minds till the next elections and is too late to help making their minds up for the last one.
They could show it before the last elections for the simple reason that it was filmed during the last elections.

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[Alf Garnet]

So now the police become judge jury and executionors.
They chased a man, caught him and then jumped on him only to fire 5 rounds into his head. Surely if he was a suicide bomber he would have detonated any exploves he was carrying before the police had any chance of shooting him.

They were trying to say he was one of the four who attempted to explode the bombs, then why the fuck are they showing FOUR CCTV images and asking for them to be identified?
Surely they would only be looking for three seeing as they had just killed one in cold blood.

So killing a deaf student who was late for college is justifiable because he MIGHT have been a terrorist.


I love that idea.

So to summerize. There was this deaf student, this deaf student with a ruck sack full of baked beans, jumps over the ticket barier and is chased by 7 police men of which includes police men in uniform. As the deaf student is running towards the platform, (one presumes on the way to help disabled people or the old folkes) everyone screaming and being told to get down. But he doesnt stop (again maybe he was late to do his charity work) he falls over, spilling his cans of baked beans everywhere. Then these 7 police man who obviously have a thing about killing deaf students. Walk over with no justification whatsoever and shoot this man 5 times in the head?

The justification for these evil policeman killing this deaf student charity worker is? I presume they just wanted to stir up racial hatred. Evel fuckers should be locked up right?

You live in a fucking dream world

[Rosie]

LOL it was wolfey, not foxy. wolfy, power to the people. With Lesly ash :)

I stand by my original statement about Foxy - watch it again ;)

[Guest]

They were trying to say he was one of the four who attempted to explode the bombs, then why the fuck are they showing FOUR CCTV images and asking for them to be identified?
Surely they would only be looking for three seeing as they had just killed one in cold blood.
Who is this 'they'? The police never said that the guy was one of the failed suicide bombers, that was just media speculation.

[Geezer]

PS. Geezer, your toplist has Paige and Kiki on, both those images were taken when they were 17, that's a FACT !


And????

[Geezer]

I love that idea.

So to summerize. There was this deaf student, this deaf student with a ruck sack full of baked beans, jumps over the ticket barier and is chased by 7 police men of which includes police men in uniform. As the deaf student is running towards the platform, (one presumes on the way to help disabled people or the old folkes) everyone screaming and being told to get down. But he doesnt stop (again maybe he was late to do his charity work) he falls over, spilling his cans of baked beans everywhere. Then these 7 police man who obviously have a thing about killing deaf students. Walk over with no justification whatsoever and shoot this man 5 times in the head?

The justification for these evil policeman killing this deaf student charity worker is? I presume they just wanted to stir up racial hatred. Evel fuckers should be locked up right?

You live in a fucking dream world

I see my point has gone over a few heads here.

I was just using that example scenario to make a point that there could be many reasons why he ran and not heard the police shouting.

I must have missed some of the news because I thought he was chased by 4 plain clothed officers.

I'm sure someone can remember his name, I can't at the moment, but what about that bloke that got shot to pieces in his mini?

Oh yeah they must have had a reason to riddle an innocent man with bullets, they didn't really have a reason just an excuse. THEY MADE A MISTAKE!

[Cardinal_Sin]

I stand by my original statement about Foxy - watch it again ;)

You are right: His name was Wolfie, but Wolfie's girlfriend's mother (Dora Bryant) was a forgetful old woman and always called him Foxy,

[Shandy McAndy]

I see my point has gone over a few heads here.

I was just using that example scenario to make a point that there could be many reasons why he ran and not heard the police shouting.

I must have missed some of the news because I thought he was chased by 4 plain clothed officers.

I'm sure someone can remember his name, I can't at the moment, but what about that bloke that got shot to pieces in his mini?

Oh yeah they must have had a reason to riddle an innocent man with bullets, they didn't really have a reason just an excuse. THEY MADE A MISTAKE!

Think of this scenario

The police have very good inteligence that a guy is about to murder 100's of innocent people. They cant be 100% sure until they stop him and search him.

But they dont act just in case they are wrong. The terrorist kills 100's of innocent people. Who's going to tell the family and friends of the dead people, that we couldnt shoot him, because we were only 99% certain he was going to murder them, just in case we was wrong

Unfortunatly these terrorists dont play by the same rules as we do.

[Cardinal_Sin]

Oh yeah they must have had a reason to riddle an innocent man with bullets, they didn't really have a reason just an excuse. THEY MADE A MISTAKE!

Fucking idiot -
You damn the Police for doing an impossible job - And stand up for the person willing to detonate a bomb killing innocent people -

[Cardinal_Sin]

1st 100 post to a thread wins a prize!

[Rosie]

Oh yeah they must have had a reason to riddle an innocent man with bullets, they didn't really have a reason just an excuse. THEY MADE A MISTAKE!

Fucking idiot -
You damn the Police for doing an impossible job - And stand up for the person willing to detonate a bomb killing innocent people -

OK, here's my take on what Geezer is saying (and I know he'll correct me if I'm wrong) - he's not saying the police definately made a mistake, he's saying *what if* they made a mistake?

Now I'm pretty sure our police do NOT go pumping five bullets into a bloke on the off chance that he might be (or even PROBABLY is) a mad man with an explosives belt. I'd like to think that they're almost sure he represent a real threat to people's lives.... but I guess the keyword here is "almost".

It's my take that Geezer and I are just pondering on the "what ifs" of the situation - ie: what if the guy didn't hear or understand the police's orders to stay still, or what if the guy ran because he was just scared. Obviously none of US know what the hell happened - what, if anything, the real threat was - and I'm sure there will be some deep inquiries as to what happened and then the facts will become clear.

[Rosie]

Got to just add this one - our police have blown me away with admiration over the past two weeks. They're doing an impossible job and doing it bloody well. In comparison to most other countries it would seem we have a force to be proud of in the UK :)

[Cardinal_Sin]

OK, here's my take on what Geezer is saying (and I know he'll correct me if I'm wrong) - he's not saying the police definately made a mistake, he's saying *what if* they made a mistake?

Now I'm pretty sure our police do NOT go pumping five bullets into a bloke on the off chance that he might be (or even PROBABLY is) a mad man with an explosives belt. I'd like to think that they're almost sure he represent a real threat to people's lives.... but I guess the keyword here is "almost".

It's my take that Geezer and I are just pondering on the "what ifs" of the situation - ie: what if the guy didn't hear or understand the police's orders to stay still, or what if the guy ran because he was just scared. Obviously none of US know what the hell happened - what, if anything, the real threat was - and I'm sure there will be some deep inquiries as to what happened and then the facts will become clear.


And the Police are thinking : What if that guy running away from us and heading for the open doors of a train where many people are sitting, ... is wearing a suicide vest.
They have no choice but to act quickly.

[Geezer]

Oh yeah they must have had a reason to riddle an innocent man with bullets, they didn't really have a reason just an excuse. THEY MADE A MISTAKE!

Fucking idiot -
You damn the Police for doing an impossible job - And stand up for the person willing to detonate a bomb killing innocent people -

More personal insults, good innit!

Did you not read my post or did you read it but just couldn't comprehend was being said?
See my quote below:

I'm sure someone can remember his name, I can't at the moment, but what about that bloke that got shot to pieces in his mini?

Oh yeah they must have had a reason to riddle an innocent man with bullets, they didn't really have a reason just an excuse. THEY MADE A MISTAKE!

I don't remember the bloke in the mini having a bomb and was going to detonate it :takethat:

[Geezer]

OK, here's my take on what Geezer is saying (and I know he'll correct me if I'm wrong) - he's not saying the police definately made a mistake, he's saying *what if* they made a mistake?

Now I'm pretty sure our police do NOT go pumping five bullets into a bloke on the off chance that he might be (or even PROBABLY is) a mad man with an explosives belt. I'd like to think that they're almost sure he represent a real threat to people's lives.... but I guess the keyword here is "almost".

It's my take that Geezer and I are just pondering on the "what ifs" of the situation - ie: what if the guy didn't hear or understand the police's orders to stay still, or what if the guy ran because he was just scared. Obviously none of US know what the hell happened - what, if anything, the real threat was - and I'm sure there will be some deep inquiries as to what happened and then the facts will become clear.

I'm glad someone can see past their anger and hatred to see what is actually being said.

I would have thought that had a suicide bomber had an explosive belt and was being chased by 4 police officers they would have detonated the bomb before they had a chance to jump on him and put 5 bullets into his head.

[Geezer]

And the Police are thinking : What if that guy running away from us and heading for the open doors of a train where many people are sitting, ... is wearing a suicide vest.
They have no choice but to act quickly.

So if the police had made a mistake and it was your son they had shot would you still be saying "They have no choice but to act quickly"?
probably not.

[mellenig]

I don't remember the bloke in the mini having a bomb and was going to detonate it :takethat:

No they believed he was carrying a shotgun and he had already made threats.

It's real easy to sit at a computer and make judgements but when you have a few seconds in a life or death situation it's a whole different ball game.

That policeman/soldier who pulls the trigger has to live with his decision for the rest of his life whether it be right or wrong

[Geezer]

No they believed he was carrying a shotgun and he had already made threats.

It's real easy to sit at a computer and make judgements but when you have a few seconds in a life or death situation it's a whole different ball game.

That policeman/soldier who pulls the trigger has to live with his decision for the rest of his life whether it be right or wrong

I think you are thinking of something totally different, I am talking about a bloke who the police shot to bits who had done nothing wrong apart from sitting in his car.
He never had any weapons on him not even a pen knife, the made a mistake and that is my point. The police DO make mistakes.

[mellenig]

If it's the one in the Manchester area where he was driving a mini he wasnt carrying any weapons BUT they did think he was carrying a shotgun, which obvisoly was a mistake which as you said they do make.

But it's easy for us to sit here and make judgement's on a situation that involves taking some one elses life.

Everyone makes mistakes i'm glad mine is only I screwed a link up yesterday and sent a few hundred hits that wouldn't be counted.... Instead of having the job of shall I shoot dead this suspected terrorist that may or may not have a bomb/gun on him and if I make a mistake half the country is going to crucify me lose my job and maybe even go to prison.

[Geezer]

If it's the one in the Manchester area where he was driving a mini he wasnt carrying any weapons BUT they did think he was carrying a shotgun, which obvisoly was a mistake which as you said they do make.

But it's easy for us to sit here and make judgement's on a situation that involves taking some one elses life.

Everyone makes mistakes i'm glad mine is only I screwed a link up yesterday and sent a few hundred hits that wouldn't be counted.... Instead of having the job of shall I shoot dead this suspected terrorist that may or may not have a bomb/gun on him and if I make a mistake half the country is going to crucify me lose my job and maybe even go to prison.

No I am thinking of this one Here! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/january/14/newsid_2530000/2530649.stm)

I couldn't remember his name so I was doing som searches, I finally found it.

So as you can see the police do make mistakes and innocent people do get shot and sometimes killed by them

[Geezer]

Instead of having the job of shall I shoot dead this suspected terrorist that may or may not have a bomb/gun on him and if I make a mistake half the country is going to crucify me lose my job and maybe even go to prison.

Don't join the Armed Response Unit or any other part of the police force that would require you to make that decision then.

[mellenig]

Don't join the Armed Response Unit or any other part of the police force that would require you to make that decision then.

Yes but someone has to do that job we don't live in a perfect world. It would be great if we didnt need them but sadly we do.

Why crucify someone for doing a job that most of us wouldn't have the balls to do?

whether it be the police armed response or armed forces risking their life so we can sit here talking about a being in a situation that we could never comprehend.

[Geezer]

You are right: His name was Wolfie, but Wolfie's girlfriend's mother (Dora Bryant) was a forgetful old woman and always called him Foxy,

Dora Bryant was never in Citizen Smith it was Hilda Braid who is currently playing Nana Moon in Eastenders.

He was called Wolfie though, she (Hilda Braid) called him foxie (wolf, fox) get it :)

[Geezer]

Yes but someone has to do that job we don't live in a perfect world. It would be great if we didnt need them but sadly we do.

Why crucify someone for doing a job that most of us wouldn't have the balls to do?

whether it be the police armed response or armed forces risking their life so we can sit here talking about a being in a situation that we could never comprehend.

Yeah and those people highly trained, they don't just give them a gun and say "go for it".

So if you were mistakenly identified and shot to within in an inch of your life would you just say "but someone has to do that job we don't live in a perfect world"? I doubt it :)

[mellenig]

No I am thinking of this one Here! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/january/14/newsid_2530000/2530649.stm)

I couldn't remember his name so I was doing som searches, I finally found it.

So as you can see the police do make mistakes and innocent people do get shot and sometimes killed by them

We where thinking of 2 different ones.

So as you can see the police do make mistakes and innocent people do get shot and sometimes killed by them

I never disagreed with you they do make mistakes but that wasn't my point

[Geezer]

We where thinking of 2 different ones.



I never disagreed with you they do make mistakes but that wasn't my point

What is your point then?

My point is that the person the police shot on Friday could have been an innocent victim and that the police do get it wrong.

I agree that if he was a terrorist and had a bag full of explosives then the police had no choice if he would not stop.

But some on here can't or won't agree that he might NOT have had a bag full of explosives.

I think they call it a knee jerk reaction.

[mellenig]

Yeah and those people highly trained, they don't just give them a gun and say "go for it".

I know that joined Junior Para when I left school at 16...hated every minute of it worst desicion of my life got out before I was 18 when I reliased it wasnt for me. That's what makes me respect the people who put their life on the line for me and YOU.


So if you were mistakenly identified and shot to within in an inch of your life would you just say "but someone has to do that job we don't live in a perfect world"? I doubt it

No of course not but on the opposite side if I had been on the tube yesterday and that "suspected bomber" had made it down and detonated his bomb, i would have been saying why the fuck didnt you shoot him while you had the chance. Would you have been thinking the same if you had a relative down there?

[Geezer]

I know that joined Junior Para when I left school at 16...hated every minute of it worst desicion of my life got out before I was 18 when I reliased it wasnt for me. That's what makes me respect the people who put their life on the line for me and YOU.




No of course not but on the opposite side if I had been on the tube yesterday and that "suspected bomber" had made it down and detonated his bomb, i would have been saying why the fuck didnt you shoot him while you had the chance. Would you have been thinking the same if you had a relative down there?

Depends which relative it was :takethat:

[mellenig]

What is your point then?

My point is that the person the police shot on Friday could have been an innocent victim and that the police do get it wrong.

I agree that if he was a terrorist and had a bag full of explosives then the police had no choice if he would not stop.

But some on here can't or won't agree that he might NOT have had a bag full of explosives.

I think they call it a knee jerk reaction.

My point was they do make mistakes but till we know the full facts we cant sit here and pass judgement. whether he was a terrorist or not or whether he had a bag of explosive or not.

[mellenig]

Depends which relative it was :takethat:

:takethat:

[Geezer]

My point was they do make mistakes but till we know the full facts we cant sit here and pass judgement. whether he was a terrorist or not or whether he had a bag of explosive or not.

Hooray, finally someone gets it :gold:

[-HF]

They could show it before the last elections for the simple reason that it was filmed during the last elections.


not quite, obviously it was shot during the campaign and therefor before the elections. for some reason the mole got fired during the campaign, the report was a tad vague on it, most likely she has been grassed up.
had they done any editing while they were filming, they could have easily broadcasted it days after her no longer being in the campaign team and in time before election day.

of course some would have argued it's just a try to portray one party in a negative light while all the other partie probably use similar tactics.
and they would most likely be right.

[Geezer]

Oh dear, oh dear.

Maybe this will help those understand what and why I was saying what I was saying:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4711021.stm

[mellenig]

Now we know more of the facts you where right a very bad mistake has been made...

[Winston]

Oh dear, oh dear.

Maybe this will help those understand what and why I was saying what I was saying:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4711021.stm
thats typical of what happens in wartime - hopefully it wont stop our rozzers from being aggressive :ninja:

[Alf Garnet]

Now we know more of the facts you where right a very bad mistake has been made...

doesnt sound like a mistake and if the next silly cunt who comes out of a terrorist house, jumps turnstyles when the police confront him and run into a crowd of the subway gets shot in the head 5 times, then that wont be a mistake as well.

[Geezer]

thats typical of what happens in wartime - hopefully it wont stop our rozzers from being aggressive :ninja:

Yep your'e right and what also happens in "wartime" is that people die from bombs. Seems most people can't see that though, most seem to think it's ok for one party to bomb the other but when it happens to them there is an outcry.

[-HF]

thats typical of what happens in wartime - hopefully it wont stop our rozzers from being aggressive :ninja:


so it's war, not terrorism. what's the complaints about the british victims then. it's what happens in war, no?

it's hilarious how you folks always twist it the way to suit your closed minds. :D

[Alf Garnet]

so it's war, not terrorism. what's the complaints about the british victims then. it's what happens in war, no?

it's hilarious how you folks always twist it the way to suit your closed minds. :D

sounds like you are glad the bomers killed British victims. Maybe its time for people to start declaring are they for Britain or for extremist murderers. You made your mind up which side your on yet?

[-HF]

doesnt sound like a mistake and if the next silly cunt who comes out of a terrorist house, jumps turnstyles when the police confront him and run into a crowd of the subway gets shot in the head 5 times, then that wont be a mistake as well.


right, so your best mate or close relative happens to live in the same block as a terrorist, like this victim did. so it's perfectly fine to shoot them in the head as well.

glad we got that clear.

this board clearly lacks some smilies, the fun you guys spread finds no end. :D

[-HF]

sounds like you are glad the bomers killed British victims. Maybe its time for people to start declaring are they for Britain or for extremist murderers. You made your mind up which side your on yet?


LMAO! [sorry, lack of smilies, as i said before]

[Alf Garnet]

right, so your best mate or close relative happens to live in the same block as a terrorist, like this victim did. so it's perfectly fine to shoot them in the head as well.


Yes if my brother, mother, brother comes out of a known terroist house, then walks to the tube station. If they are then confronted with police, they then jump the turnstyles, they then run to the tube. If then when the police try to stop them, they then try and get on a train, if they are then shot dead. then thats OK.

Just like if they stand on the M25 in rush hour and get run over then thats also ok.

[Winston]

so it's war, not terrorism. what's the complaints about the british victims then. it's what happens in war, no?

it's hilarious how you folks always twist it the way to suit your closed minds. :D
my mind is far from closed - of course its a war .

[-HF]

Yes if my brother, mother, brother comes out of a known terroist house, then walks to the tube station. If they are then confronted with police, they then jump the turnstyles, they then run to the tube. If then when the police try to stop them, they then try and get on a train, if they are then shot dead. then thats OK.

Just like if they stand on the M25 in rush hour and get run over then thats also ok.

now considering the police there wasn't wearing uniform, why should one stop? how do you distinguish between a police member in civil clothes and any other thug waving a gun at you?

[Alf Garnet]

now considering the police there wasn't wearing uniform, why should one stop? how do you distinguish between a police member in civil clothes and any other thug waving a gun at you?


OK word of warning for the mentalists. If 7 blokes with machine guns say "Police stop ot I'll shoot"

Either stop or get shot. Its up to you, though I suggest stopping

[-HF]

OK word of warning for the mentalists. If 7 blokes with machine guns say "Police stop ot I'll shoot"

Either stop or get shot. Its up to you, though I suggest stopping


in other words, you too have no clue on how to distinguish between any bloke in civil clothes claiming he is police and some thug.

cheers. :D

[Alf Garnet]

in other words, you too have no clue on how to distinguish between any bloke in civil clothes claiming he is police and some thug.

cheers. :D


No but when 7 blokes with machine guns say "police stop or Ill shoot", Ill stop. You do what the fuck you want.

[-HF]

No but when 7 blokes with machine guns say "police stop or Ill shoot", Ill stop. You do what the fuck you want.


precisley. and we will just say tough tits if you do and some street thugs kill you afterwards. :p

[Geezer]

No but when 7 blokes with machine guns say "police stop or Ill shoot", Ill stop. You do what the fuck you want.

Where did "7 blokes with machine guns" come from?

I saw mention of a hand gun but no "machine guns"

[-HF]

Where did "7 blokes with machine guns" come from?

I saw mention of a hand gun but no "machine guns"


Alfie's sources he won't disclose. i keep saying we should start looking into his terrorist relationships. :D

[Alf Garnet]

Where did "7 blokes with machine guns" come from?

I saw mention of a hand gun but no "machine guns"

Automatic rifles or slr's (self loading rifles) are clased as machine guns. But even for some thick cunt who thinks there is a distintion. If anyone says "police, stop or Ill shoot and youy are runningtowards a tube train from a known terrorist house, I would suggest stopping

[Geezer]

Automatic rifles or slr's (self loading rifles) are clased as machine guns. But even for some thick cunt who thinks there is a distintion. If anyone says "police, stop or Ill shoot and youy are runningtowards a tube train from a known terrorist house, I would suggest stopping

An SLR is just an automatic, Self Loading Rifle and are NOT classed as machine guns.

I will post this part of an eyewitness account for you here as well:

""I saw an Asian guy. He ran on to the train, he was hotly pursued by three plain clothes officers, one of them was wielding a black handgun"

[Alf Garnet]

An SLR is just an automatic, Self Loading Rifle and are NOT classed as machine guns.

I will post this part of an eyewitness account for you here as well:

""I saw an Asian guy. He ran on to the train, he was hotly pursued by three plain clothes officers, one of them was wielding a black handgun"

well done. So fucking what?

[-HF]

youy are runningtowards a tube train from a known terrorist house,

a KNOWN terrorist house? so there were indeed flyers and posters about that very house being a terrorist house? shame on the tosser he didn't move out then, if it's a KNOWN terrorist house. he could still be alive had he just not lived in a KNOWN terrorist house and left it for whatever he wanted to do on that day. :D

is that KNOWN terrorist house a typical stop at your average London sight seeing tour? if so, we must have been screwed over.

you are hilarious.

[Geezer]

well done. So fucking what?

:takethat:

[Winston]

If the lad that left a "KNOWN" (sic) terrorist household (we can be sure he was being followed for a fucking good reason) was indeed challenged and proceded to leg it - what would you do? Take him down, or have a nice chat with him over a cup of tea?

War = dead civilians.

It 's fucking war - sooner you lot realise that the better .

[Geezer]

If the lad that left a "KNOWN" (sic) terrorist household (we can be sure he was being followed for a fucking good reason) was indeed challenged and proceded to leg it - what would you do? Take him down, or have a nice chat with him over a cup of tea?

War = dead civilians.

It 's fucking war - sooner you lot realise that the better .

I realised that a long time ago and have been saying such for a while now.
People died in the tube bombs and the bus bomb, yeah, well it's a war.
Like you say war = dead civilians

[Alf Garnet]

a KNOWN terrorist house? so there were indeed flyers and posters about that very house being a terrorist house? shame on the tosser he didn't move out then, if it's a KNOWN terrorist house. he could still be alive had he just not lived in a KNOWN terrorist house and left it for whatever he wanted to do on that day. :D

is that KNOWN terrorist house a typical stop at your average London sight seeing tour? if so, we must have been screwed over.

you are hilarious.

It was under police observation.

By the way, you missed this thread. Its not hard to miss, its right under this thread http://www.beerandbollocks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=754

[Alf Garnet]

:takethat:

Im glad you find British people dying so funny.

You missed this thread, its not hard to find, its under this thread. http://www.beerandbollocks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=754

[-HF]

It was under police observation.

and that makes it a KNOWN terrorist house because?

we can safely assume the police didn't spread the fact they were observing it.
therefor we can assume the guy leaving it wasn't aware he was leaving a KNOWN terrorist house as you claim.

you are using circular logic there, Alfie.

[Alf Garnet]

and that makes it a KNOWN terrorist house because?

we can safely assume the police didn't spread the fact they were observing it.
therefor we can assume the guy leaving it wasn't aware he was leaving a KNOWN terrorist house as you claim.

you are using circular logic there, Alfie.

ypu missed this thread http://www.beerandbollocks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=754

I know you are very clever so couldnt have missed it. So here is a reminder about it http://www.beerandbollocks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=754

[-HF]

Alfie not answering a simple question, with all the info you must have at hand? :D

[Geezer]

ypu missed this thread http://www.beerandbollocks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=754

I know you are very clever so couldnt have missed it. So here is a reminder about it http://www.beerandbollocks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=754

Where's that SPAM smillie when you need it :takethat:

[Alf Garnet]

Alfie not answering a simple question, with all the info you must have at hand? :D

You missed this thread. Someone as clever as you should have found it by now. Incase you missed it, Ive just bumped it http://www.beerandbollocks.com/foru...hread.php?t=754

[Alf Garnet]

Where's that SPAM smillie when you need it :takethat:

You missed this thread. Someone as clever as you should have found it by now. Incase you missed it, Ive just bumped it http://www.beerandbollocks.com/foru...hread.php?t=754

[-HF]

Where's that SPAM smillie when you need it :takethat:

i keep saying the board needs some more. we're just collecting some for a new surfer board, i might post some here, maybe JP or JT will be kind and add them. :drink:

[Alf Garnet]

i keep saying the board needs some more. we're just collecting some for a new surfer board, i might post some here, maybe JP or JT will be kind and add them. :drink:

You missed this thread. Someone as clever as you should have found it by now. Incase you missed it, Ive just bumped it http://www.beerandbollocks.com/foru...hread.php?t=754

[-HF]

seems Alfie missed a simple question, surely someone as smart and informed as he is wouldn't just run silent.

obviously courtesy demands i repeat my question...

and that makes it a KNOWN terrorist house because?

we can safely assume the police didn't spread the fact they were observing it.
therefor we can assume the guy leaving it wasn't aware he was leaving a KNOWN terrorist house as you claim.

you are using circular logic there, Alfie.

[Alf Garnet]

seems Alfie missed a simple question, surely someone as smart and informed as he is wouldn't just run silent.

obviously courtesy demands i repeat my question...

and that makes it a KNOWN terrorist house because?

we can safely assume the police didn't spread the fact they were observing it.
therefor we can assume the guy leaving it wasn't aware he was leaving a KNOWN terrorist house as you claim.

you are using circular logic there, Alfie.

Obviously you know more than the special services. Well done. But as clever as you are you seemed to have missed this thread

Someone as clever as you should have found it by now. Incase you missed it, Ive just bumped it http://www.beerandbollocks.com/foru...hread.php?t=754

[-HF]

Obviously you know more than the special services.


aww Alfie, mixing up posts already? :D

you claim it was a KNOWN terrorist house where the guy simply shouldn't have walked out of and then be afraid when some men in civil clothes hunt him, which you could only know if you were involved with the police or the terrorists. unless there were public announcements on it being a KNOWN terrorist house before the innocent man was shot. then you shouldn't have the slightest problem showing us some backup. :D

[Alf Garnet]

aww Alfie, mixing up posts already? :D

you claim it was a KNOWN terrorist house where the guy simply shouldn't have walked out of and then be afraid when some men in civil clothes hunt him, which you could only know if you were involved with the police or the terrorists. unless there were public announcements on it being a KNOWN terrorist house before the innocent man was shot. then you shouldn't have the slightest problem showing us some backup. :D

You missed this thread. Someone as clever as you should have found it by now. Incase you missed it, Ive just bumped it http://www.beerandbollocks.com/foru...hread.php?t=754

[-HF]

seems Alfie missed a simple question, surely someone as smart and informed as he is wouldn't just run silent.

obviously courtesy demands i repeat my question...

and that makes it a KNOWN terrorist house because?

we can safely assume the police didn't spread the fact they were observing it.
therefor we can assume the guy leaving it wasn't aware he was leaving a KNOWN terrorist house as you claim.

you are using circular logic there, Alfie.


:D

[Alf Garnet]

and that makes it a KNOWN terrorist house because?

:D

Becuase the police said and not a smut pedler


opps you seem to have missed this thread again. Someone as clever as you should have found it by now. Incase you missed it, Ive just bumped it http://www.beerandbollocks.com/foru...hread.php?t=754

[-HF]

Becuase the police said and not a smut pedler

but Alfie, that isn't true at all. :D

you said
youy are runningtowards a tube train from a known terrorist house,

so you must know that the guy should have known it was a KNOWN terrorist house. this means that either the police announced it already before they set after him and shot him. or you are a police member to have insider info. or you are in with the terrorists.

there is no other possibility why you could suggest the guy was running away from a KNOWN terrorist house and should have known so.

so what is it then, Alfie?

announcment? Alfie the police guy? Alfie with the terrorist connections?

or just Alfie spouting off? :D

[Alf Garnet]

but Alfie, that isn't true at all. :D

you said


so you must know that the guy should have known it was a KNOWN terrorist house. this means that either the police announced it already before they set after him and shot him. or you are a police member to have insider info. or you are in with the terrorists.

there is no other possibility why you could suggest the guy was running away from a KNOWN terrorist house and should have known so.

so what is it then, Alfie?

announcment? Alfie the police guy? Alfie with the terrorist connections?

or just Alfie spouting off? :D

You missed this thread. Someone as clever as you should have found it by now. Incase you missed it, Ive just bumped it http://www.beerandbollocks.com/foru...hread.php?t=754

[Geezer]

There are none so blind, as those who would not see

[Alf Garnet]

There are none so blind, as those who would not see

oops You missed this thread. Someone as clever as you should have found it by now. Incase you missed it, Ive just bumped it http://www.beerandbollocks.com/foru...hread.php?t=754

[-HF]

Becuase the police said and not a smut pedler

but Alfie, that isn't true at all. :D

you said
youy are runningtowards a tube train from a known terrorist house,



so you must know that the guy should have known it was a KNOWN terrorist house. this means that either the police announced it already before they set after him and shot him. or you are a police member to have insider info. or you are in with the terrorists.

there is no other possibility why you could suggest the guy was running away from a KNOWN terrorist house and should have known so.

so what is it then, Alfie?

announcment? Alfie the police guy? Alfie with the terrorist connections?

or just Alfie spouting off? :D

[Alf Garnet]

but Alfie, that isn't true at all. :D

you said



so you must know that the guy should have known it was a KNOWN terrorist house. this means that either the police announced it already before they set after him and shot him. or you are a police member to have insider info. or you are in with the terrorists.

there is no other possibility why you could suggest the guy was running away from a KNOWN terrorist house and should have known so.

so what is it then, Alfie?

announcment? Alfie the police guy? Alfie with the terrorist connections?

or just Alfie spouting off? :D

Dude can you see this post? http://www.beerandbollocks.com/foru...hread.php?t=754

or are you waiting for Geezer to post so you can copy what he says?

[-HF]

Becuase the police said and not a smut pedler

but Alfie, that isn't true at all. :D

you said
youy are runningtowards a tube train from a known terrorist house,



so you must know that the guy should have known it was a KNOWN terrorist house. this means that either the police announced it already before they set after him and shot him. or you are a police member to have insider info. or you are in with the terrorists.

there is no other possibility why you could suggest the guy was running away from a KNOWN terrorist house and should have known so.

so what is it then, Alfie?

announcment? Alfie the police guy? Alfie with the terrorist connections?

or just Alfie spouting off? :D

[Alf Garnet]

but Alfie, that isn't true at all. :D

you said



so you must know that the guy should have known it was a KNOWN terrorist house. this means that either the police announced it already before they set after him and shot him. or you are a police member to have insider info. or you are in with the terrorists.

there is no other possibility why you could suggest the guy was running away from a KNOWN terrorist house and should have known so.

so what is it then, Alfie?

announcment? Alfie the police guy? Alfie with the terrorist connections?

or just Alfie spouting off? :D

oops you have missed it again :)

[-HF]

Becuase the police said and not a smut pedler

but Alfie, that isn't true at all. :D

you said
youy are runningtowards a tube train from a known terrorist house,



so you must know that the guy should have known it was a KNOWN terrorist house. this means that either the police announced it already before they set after him and shot him. or you are a police member to have insider info. or you are in with the terrorists.

there is no other possibility why you could suggest the guy was running away from a KNOWN terrorist house and should have known so.

so what is it then, Alfie?

announcment? Alfie the police guy? Alfie with the terrorist connections?


or just Alfie spouting off? :D

[Alf Garnet]

but Alfie, that isn't true at all. :D

you said



so you must know that the guy should have known it was a KNOWN terrorist house. this means that either the police announced it already before they set after him and shot him. or you are a police member to have insider info. or you are in with the terrorists.

there is no other possibility why you could suggest the guy was running away from a KNOWN terrorist house and should have known so.

so what is it then, Alfie?

announcment? Alfie the police guy? Alfie with the terrorist connections?


or just Alfie spouting off? :D

well done you can copy and paste better than me :gold:

But you two are the sad fucks who keep ignoring that thread

[-HF]

well done you can copy and paste better than me :gold:


and you still aren't telling us what your terrorist connection is. :D

[Alf Garnet]

and you still aren't telling us what your terrorist connection is. :D

I leave that to our special services. You obviously know more, but again forgot to post in this thread http://www.beerandbollocks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=754

[-HF]

hmmm.........

Becuase the police said and not a smut pedler

but Alfie, that isn't true at all. :D

you said
youy are runningtowards a tube train from a known terrorist house,



so you must know that the guy should have known it was a KNOWN terrorist house. this means that either the police announced it already before they set after him and shot him. or you are a police member to have insider info. or you are in with the terrorists.

there is no other possibility why you could suggest the guy was running away from a KNOWN terrorist house and should have known so.

so what is it then, Alfie?

announcment? Alfie the police guy? Alfie with the terrorist connections?

or just Alfie spouting off? :D

[Alf Garnet]

hmmm.........



but Alfie, that isn't true at all. :D

you said



so you must know that the guy should have known it was a KNOWN terrorist house. this means that either the police announced it already before they set after him and shot him. or you are a police member to have insider info. or you are in with the terrorists.

there is no other possibility why you could suggest the guy was running away from a KNOWN terrorist house and should have known so.

so what is it then, Alfie?

announcment? Alfie the police guy? Alfie with the terrorist connections?

or just Alfie spouting off? :D

God you are boring. No wonder you are such a fat ugly cunt if you cant even answer a simple thread. Instead of copying and pasting shitty twoddle that no one aprt from a fat ugly losser wants to keep posting

[Geezer]

God you are boring. No wonder you are such a fat ugly cunt if you cant even answer a simple thread. Instead of copying and pasting shitty twoddle that no one aprt from a fat ugly losser wants to keep posting

Can you make a sentence out of this?:

pot the black kettle calling the

[-HF]

God you are boring. No wonder you are such a fat ugly cunt if you cant even answer a simple thread. Instead of copying and pasting shitty twoddle that no one aprt from a fat ugly losser wants to keep posting


haven't you said exactly the same in another thread? good thing you don't cut n paste. :D

[Alf Garnet]

haven't you said exactly the same in another thread? good thing you don't cut n paste. :D

But you still didnt see my thread? Are you blind or scared of answering?

[-HF]

Becuase the police said and not a smut pedler

but Alfie, that isn't true at all. :D

you said
youy are runningtowards a tube train from a known terrorist house,



so you must know that the guy should have known it was a KNOWN terrorist house. this means that either the police announced it already before they set after him and shot him. or you are a police member to have insider info. or you are in with the terrorists.

there is no other possibility why you could suggest the guy was running away from a KNOWN terrorist house and should have known so.

so what is it then, Alfie?

announcment? Alfie the police guy? Alfie with the terrorist connections?

or just Alfie spouting off? :D

[Alf Garnet]

but Alfie, that isn't true at all. :D

you said



so you must know that the guy should have known it was a KNOWN terrorist house. this means that either the police announced it already before they set after him and shot him. or you are a police member to have insider info. or you are in with the terrorists.

there is no other possibility why you could suggest the guy was running away from a KNOWN terrorist house and should have known so.

so what is it then, Alfie?

announcment? Alfie the police guy? Alfie with the terrorist connections?

or just Alfie spouting off? :D

God your boring as well as fat and ugly. Read my posts that answers this fucktard or carry on eating burgers you fat ugly stupid cunt :mcdonalds

[-HF]

God your boring as well as fat and ugly. Read my posts that answers this fucktard or carry on eating burgers you fat ugly stupid cunt :mcdonalds


again a classy reply Alfie. :D

so why won't you answer simple question, with all your insider info you must have?

[Alf Garnet]

again a classy reply Alfie. :D

so why won't you answer simple question, with all your insider info you must have?

Its funny how geezer and HF wont post in the same thread and agree with each other so much. Are they the same person?

[-HF]

Its funny how geezer and HF wont post in the same thread and agree with each other so much. Are they the same person?

It's funny how Alfie and Cardinal Sin post the same crap, are they one person? :D

[Alf Garnet]

It's funny how Alfie and Cardinal Sin post the same crap, are they one person? :D


LOL sore subject :takethat:

[JT]

Lots of copying and pasting in this thread. \is there a quick easy summery?

[Cardinal_Sin]

Lots of copying and pasting in this thread. \is there a quick easy summery?

Everybody out to get lots of sig views - We're all sat together in a bar all using one laptop - Totally pissed out of our heads - Great fun

[JT]

Everybody out to get lots of sig views - We're all sat together in a bar all using one laptop - Totally pissed out of our heads - Great fun

sounds like GFY :drink:

[Cardinal_Sin]

sounds like GFY :drink:

Na - Nags Head

[Geezer]

Everybody out to get lots of sig views - We're all sat together in a bar all using one laptop - Totally pissed out of our heads - Great fun

That's sounds about right, you've had a couple of cheap Polish beers and you get all stroppy cos you can't handle your beer.

[Cardinal_Sin]

That's sounds about right, you've had a couple of cheap Polish beers and you get all stroppy cos you can't handle your beer.

Who are you?

Sounds like someone has upset you - Are you behind with your rent again?
We'll set up a fund for you, if you like

[Geezer]

Who are you?

Sounds like someone has upset you - Are you behind with your rent again?
We'll set up a fund for you, if you like

You are offering something else that will be just talk in the morning then?

You'll wake up with a hangover after all that cheap Polish beer and not follow through with your offers.

I would like to take publicly take you up on both your offers of free booze and aslo a fund to pay my mortgage, sorry, rent.

[JT]

You are offering something else that will be just talk in the morning then?

You'll wake up with a hangover after all that cheap Polish beer and not follow through with your offers.

I would like to take publicly take you up on both your offers of free booze and aslo a fund to pay my mortgage, sorry, rent.


If there is free beer on the go, count me in :drink:

[Cardinal_Sin]

You are offering something else that will be just talk in the morning then?

You'll wake up with a hangover after all that cheap Polish beer and not follow through with your offers.

I would like to take publicly take you up on both your offers of free booze and aslo a fund to pay my mortgage, sorry, rent.

You sound unhappy bud - Something or somebody got to you? Don't worry about it or you'll end up wetting the bed

[Geezer]

If there is free beer on the go, count me in :drink:

Well I've been offered a free years supply of beer, wine and spirits so I'm sure I can let you have some.

Well that's unless it's just more bullshit of course :takethat:

[-HF]

4 more posts to 200, can we fix it? :D

[JT]

Well I've been offered a free years supply of beer, wine and spirits so I'm sure I can let you have some.

Well that's unless it's just more bullshit of course :takethat:


Well if it turns up its about time I get some :drink:

[JT]

4 more posts to 200, can we fix it? :D

Ill make the last four myself if I have too :drink:

[Geezer]

You sound unhappy bud - Something or somebody got to you? Don't worry about it or you'll end up wetting the bed

How do I sound unhappy? I have a free years supply of booze plus a fund to hel me out fiancially. I think that would make me happy.

Oh of course unless I will not actually see either because the beer is talking too loud.

I would suggest you lay off the sauce, at least until you can actually handle it :drink:

[Cardinal_Sin]

How do I sound unhappy? I have a free years supply of booze plus a fund to hel me out fiancially. I think that would make me happy.

Oh of course unless I will not actually see either because the beer is talking too loud.

I would suggest you lay off the sauce, at least until you can actually handle it :drink:

Did they call yoiu Andy Pandy at school?

[Geezer]

Did they call yoiu Andy Pandy at school?

Yeah

[Cardinal_Sin]

Yeah

Frightening answer

[Geezer]

Frightening answer

????

[JT]

????

I think there is 30 posts to a page so lets tray and make 4 more posts then we will have our first 7 page thread :drink:

[Cardinal_Sin]

????

Thought so

[-HF]

I think there is 30 posts to a page so lets tray and make 4 more posts then we will have our first 7 page thread :drink:


i'm on page 7 since quite some time, what board are you on? :takethat:

[JT]

i'm on page 7 since quite some time, what board are you on? :takethat:

LMAO did I mean page 8?

I need to drink less beer :drink:

[-HF]

LMAO did I mean page 8?

I need to drink less beer :drink:


drink more and you may find yourself on 77 in no time. :guinness:

[JT]

drink more and you may find yourself on 77 in no time. :guinness:

LOol I was just thinking I was on page 88 :drink:

[-HF]

LOol I was just thinking I was on page 88 :drink:



right on, next goal 1000 page views for the thread. :D

[JT]

right on, next goal 1000 page views for the thread. :D

It seems to be people either want to read about terrorists or Joe A and Paul Smith to be arguing, to get page views. Lets hope Paul Smith and Joeb find something to fight about before the terrorists

[-HF]

a good piece of drama is always good for pageviews. if it doesn't get out of hand it spices up a board. obviously a drama share like GFY is pointless, when you miss the good bits under all the rubble.

an all happy kissy huggy brotherly board is fake IMO. no community can be all sweet and molly cuddly.

[JT]

a good piece of drama is always good for pageviews. if it doesn't get out of hand it spices up a board. obviously a drama share like GFY is pointless, when you miss the good bits under all the rubble.

an all happy kissy huggy brotherly board is fake IMO. no community can be all sweet and molly cuddly.

You know the funny thing is. If and when we all sit down together, Im sure everyone would get on well. Ive met a few UK webmasters and there is only a very few I dont like

:drink:

[-HF]

most likely, yes. heck, i even thought Paul wasn't too bad when we sat at the same table. :D

especially after a fun night like today i'm pissed off we most likely won't make it to this August meet up (JP will curse me after he was nice enough to keep me up to date so i could get flight tickets in time, but our guests moved their arrival and departure times back :mad: ) - hopefully your plans for more or less regular meetings will be followed through. i need to get to chase Alfie through a pub with a Guardian edition. :D

[JT]

most likely, yes. heck, i even thought Paul wasn't too bad when we sat at the same table. :D

especially after a fun night like today i'm pissed off we most likely won't make it to this August meet up (JP will curse me after he was nice enough to keep me up to date so i could get flight tickets in time, but our guests moved their arrival and departure times back :mad: ) - hopefully your plans for more or less regular meetings will be followed through. i need to get to chase Alfie through a pub with a Guardian edition. :D

first point is about Paul. Hes a tosser :takethat:

Infact he was the first Uk webmaster I met before Cardinal Sin, Joe A and Richard from Richards Realm. hes a usless twat but still a top bloke.

If Uk adult smut merchants are this divided, what about the rst of the country?

[Cardinal_Sin]

first point is about Paul. Hes a tosser :takethat:

Infact he was the first Uk webmaster I met before Cardinal Sin, Joe A and Richard from Richards Realm. hes a usless twat but still a top bloke.

If Uk adult smut merchants are this divided, what about the rst of the country?

United we fall divided we stand!
We knocked back a few that night! :guinness:

[NumptyNuts]

Now that's a blast from the past - I did love Foxy :)

This is for you Rossie - Enjoy :-) (http://www.smithsmedia.co.uk/smith.mp3)

[JP]

we most likely won't make it to this August meet up (JP will curse me after he was nice enough to keep me up to date so i could get flight tickets in time, but our guests moved their arrival and departure times back :mad: )
:eek:

[-HF]

:eek:


liar or post whore? :D

[JP]

liar or post whore? :D
lol

Just surprised that you aint coming after all that to-ing and fro-ing ... ;)

Plenty more meet-ups planned ... I've heard the next one will be in Devon .. :P

[-HF]

yeah, it came 2 weeks ago, our guests will now be here 11th to 23rd. and i will believe that when they actually arrive. :D

[JP]

yeah, it came 2 weeks ago, our guests will now be here 11th to 23rd. and i will believe that when they actually arrive. :D
We had guests come down and stay on Friday ... they went home this morning - maybe I need to work on my hospitality ;)

[Cardinal_Sin]

We had guests come down and stay on Friday ... they went home this morning - maybe I need to work on my hospitality ;)

Maybe you can teach me how to get rid of guests so quickly -

[JP]

Maybe you can teach me how to get rid of guests so quickly -
1. Spend all day Saturday in pub
2. Come home and fall asleep while stood in kitchen cooking dinner
3. Wake up & decide that cooking is for gaylords & order kebabs
4. Shout at kebab delivery bloke accusing him of overcharging you
5. Turn on laptop and ignore guests for remainder of the evening.

Works for me :blush:

[Nickali]

it is always tragic when someone dies, after reading alot about this the police seemed justified after everything that has happened.We dont know the full story,probably never will.I for one am glad that they are out there protecting us against these bastards.

[Winston]

it is always tragic when someone dies, after reading alot about this the police seemed justified after everything that has happened.We dont know the full story,probably never will.I for one am glad that they are out there protecting us against these bastards.
shouldn' t post that kind of statement here it 's much to sensible