anyone ever claimed benefits? fuckers!

[smoothballs]

cos of that ankle injury I had at beginning of year I claimed for housing benefit for just 2 months, got about £500 altogether, now the fuckers want £175 back in overpayment! I have paid my taxes for 24 years and this is the only time in my life I have claimed benefits! I should of been a immigrant as they seem to be 1st class citizens in the eyes of the authorities and english 2nd class! I would of got everything being a immigrant! no wonder so many people are getting disallusioned with this once green and pleasant land...

my prediction for the future.... England will be called New Poland, Wales will be New Bulgaria and Scotland will be New Romania...and the Isle Of Wight will be renamed United Kingdom cos we all fucked off to the island! lol

[Pandemos]

I claimed unemployment benefit or somesuch thing in 1994 but found a job before they got round to sending any money.

[smoothballs]

tell a lie...I have only ever recieved a dole cheque once..was 1983 and arrived the day i started new job.

[Geezer]

I would of got everything being a immigrant! no wonder so many people are getting disallusioned with this once green and pleasant land...

It sounds like you did get everything you were entitled to and a bit more. So if they have overpaid you by £175 are you really saying they should just forget about it?

[daveydude]

I should of been a immigrant as they seem to be 1st class citizens in the eyes of the authorities and english 2nd class! I would of got everything being a immigrant!

That got me thinking - how much would an immigrant on benefits actually have got in 2 months? I couldn't find any published figures on this. Anyone?

[dvtimes]

It sounds like you did get everything you were entitled to and a bit more. So if they have overpaid you by £175 are you really saying they should just forget about it?

It will probably cost more to get the money back than simply to right it off.

[dvtimes]

cos of that ankle injury I had at beginning of year I claimed for housing benefit for just 2 months, got about £500 altogether, now the fuckers want £175 back in overpayment! I have paid my taxes for 24 years and this is the only time in my life I have claimed benefits! I should of been a immigrant as they seem to be 1st class citizens in the eyes of the authorities and english 2nd class! I would of got everything being a immigrant! no wonder so many people are getting disallusioned with this once green and pleasant land...

my prediction for the future.... England will be called New Poland, Wales will be New Bulgaria and Scotland will be New Romania...and the Isle Of Wight will be renamed United Kingdom cos we all fucked off to the island! lol

Offer then 50p a month. Just say you do not have the cash.

Often they just right it off.

[smoothballs]

I understand they have to have a system in place to try and stop fraud, I suppose its cos only time iv claimed housing benefit in my life and have to pay some back, when there are people on benefits for years who cant be arsed to get a job (like a mate of mine!!!!) He even can get free contact lenses (or at a good price may be wrong there). Guess my beef is I fell on hard times and paid that amount i recieved in taxes god knows how many times over and they want some back. Probably pay back a fiver a month with standing order, tell you this...if im ever in that situation again im not even going to bother claiming! i would of been better off going in arrears and having a agreement to pay back extra in rent to cover the arrears rather then doing it benifits way.Im no shirker, I had 3 jobs once when i first moved into flat to make ends meet.

[WordsforHire]

I hear ya, trust me!

Me and Paul went through a rough patch about two years ago, I had to apply for IS, was one it for something like 8 weeks when we both decided to join the online industry and haven't looked back since.

We didnt qualify for housing benefit because we weren't on it for 26 weeks, which is fucking madness because in 26 weeks, if you dont pay your mortgage, you don't have your house at the end of it!

My sister on the other hand claimed from her 16th birthday for every penny she could lay her hands on and has no problems eating smartprice food and struggling by on like £60 a week...Gosh I'd die...She has no phone apart from her mobiles and it's cause she wont bother getting of her arse and getting herself a proper job or at least attempting too! She makes me soooooo fucking angry...And the worst part is, she is happy to live that way and for the wee one to live like that.

[smoothballs]

I hear ya, trust me!

Me and Paul went through a rough patch about two years ago, I had to apply for IS, was one it for something like 8 weeks when we both decided to join the online industry and haven't looked back since.

We didnt qualify for housing benefit because we weren't on it for 26 weeks, which is fucking madness because in 26 weeks, if you dont pay your mortgage, you don't have your house at the end of it!

My sister on the other hand claimed from her 16th birthday for every penny she could lay her hands on and has no problems eating smartprice food and struggling by on like £60 a week...Gosh I'd die...She has no phone apart from her mobiles and it's cause she wont bother getting of her arse and getting herself a proper job or at least attempting too! She makes me soooooo fucking angry...And the worst part is, she is happy to live that way and for the wee one to live like that.

like a cousin of mine...gets everything cos of a "bad knee" but doesnt stop her driving everywhere....

[Merlin]

In about 1975 I received unemployment pay for a few months but due to an administrative cock up they also paid me social security benefit. Thinking they'd claim this back eventually, I mentioned it at the time to a benefits clerk. He suggested I stay shtum, go home and forget all about it. I've been waiting ever since for a bill plus 30 years compound interest.

[Dirty Derek]

I should of been a immigrant as they seem to be 1st class citizens in the eyes of the authorities and english 2nd class! I would of got everything being a immigrant!
It's a shame you have to stoop to this old argument, especially as all the examples on this thread of lazy idle fuckers are white Brits.

[smoothballs]

It's a shame you have to stoop to this old argument, especially as all the examples on this thread of lazy idle fuckers are white Brits.


well sorry but thats how it seems sometimes

[daveydude]

I really want to see a simple breakdown of how our government spends our taxes. I'd be really interested to see what proportion goes on benefits for immigrants, asylum seekers etc, compared with funding the arms deals (to the dodgy regimes from which many immigrants flee), the cost of wars, MPs questionable expenses, and other stuff a lot of people would have a problem with. I just have this gut feeling (willing to be proved wrong though) that the cost of benefits is not top of the list.

[Pandemos]

The overwhelming majority of immigrants don't claim benefits. Most of them are here doing the jobs that many of our native population are either too lazy to do or consider beneath them.

[WordsforHire]

I dont think it's the benefits side of things that bothers me about immigrants.

It's the the fact that they don't respect our customs yet we have to respect theirs.

I certainly don't agree with their customs on women, yet, if I went over to India or whatever I'd make sure that I'd respect the custom where women aren't allowed to show their hair to anyone except their husbands. I'd cover myself up and just deal.

However, when you have people from india living over here they still degrade their women, not all, I wont tarnish everyone with the same stick, but some of them do. The whole family comes over for a better way of living yet women still get treated the same. Mind you some of the women have lived by that regime for so long they dont understand that they can have independance and freedom.

I appreciate that while many try to speak English, some just cant and some even wont! It's very annoying when you go into a shop, regardless if it is ASDA, M and S, a clothes shop, a corner shop whatever and you are greeted with someone you can't understand. Take the call centre thing, a lot of Indians work in call centres over here too and it's just as bad, you get irate, and it cant be helped.

They do take on the shit jobs, granted but what pisses me off the most is the Doctor situation. I have yet to meet on Indian doctor who actually listened, addressed the problem AND spoke decent English. One of my most recent encounters saw me storm out of his office! He assumed I had a corner shop, I had a ton of brothers, my mother stayed at home and we all ate curries. He called me fat, there was nothing he could do about it as it ran in the family and deal with it!

When you go to see a doctor you need to unerstand what he is saying and when you end up in hospital where most of the Indian doctors are your left so confused cause you cant understand jackanory that they say. They do try, I appreciate that, but when they don't do their job properly it pisses me off.

[Geezer]

However, when you have people from india living over here they still degrade their women

Whereas no white man has ever treated a woman badly, like a slave or degraded her.


Take the call centre thing, a lot of Indians work in call centres over here

Do you live in India?, cos you say "Here", you do realise that most call centres are actually in India.


I have yet to meet on Indian doctor who actually listened, addressed the problem AND spoke decent English. One of my most recent encounters saw me storm out of his office! He assumed I had a corner shop, I had a ton of brothers, my mother stayed at home and we all ate curries. He called me fat, there was nothing he could do about it as it ran in the family and deal with it!

So what part of all that did you not understand then?

[WordsforHire]

Whereas no white man has ever treated a woman badly, like a slave or degraded her.

We have laws over here to "try" and prevent that, at least women here have a choice, something that they dont in india.



Do you live in India?, cos you say "Here", you do realise that most call centres are actually in India.

Of course I realise that but do you realise that in call centres here there are also a huge part of the staff that are Indians?




So what part of all that did you not understand then?
It's not him I didnt understand, it was one example of an Indian doctor who didnt listen or address the problem. If he was a "white" doctor and said that, he would be done for racism, but he wasn't why? Isn't it still racism all the same?But that wasn't my point, my point was it was another example of how he didnt listen, care, or address anything. He had his mind made up when I sat down in the chair and that was that. Does that make a good doctor to you? I certainly hope not.

[dvtimes]

When I was at school, we used to say when we grow up, we will be goverment artists. We would draw the dole.

Get it.

It used to crack me up all the time.

[Geezer]

We have laws over here to "try" and prevent that, at least women here have a choice, something that they dont in india.



Of course I realise that but do you realise that in call centres here there are also a huge part of the staff that are Indians?




It's not him I didnt understand, it was one example of an Indian doctor who didnt listen or address the problem. If he was a "white" doctor and said that, he would be done for racism, but he wasn't why? Isn't it still racism all the same?But that wasn't my point, my point was it was another example of how he didnt listen, care, or address anything. He had his mind made up when I sat down in the chair and that was that. Does that make a good doctor to you? I certainly hope not.


Women have a choice?, you obviously have know idea about domestic violence and how the women who are be abused actually do not have a choice. Well maybe they do in the literal sence, but not in the real sence.
We have laws to prevent many things, but obviously it doesn't work or our prisons wouldn't be full to breaking point.

You ask why he wasn't "done for racism", well what did the race relations board or the police actually say to you?

You are confusing being and Indian and being a GP, the vast majority of GP's, whether they are white, black, Indian or whatever are just their to write prescriptions and don't really want to listen to people and their problems.

[dvtimes]

I do have to say that I am fed up with all these imigrants comming to England from 3rd world countries. They do not even need passports. Simply cross over. All these scotish and welsh comming to England to take our jobs (he he).

[WordsforHire]

Women have a choice?, you obviously have know idea about domestic violence and how the women who are be abused actually do not have a choice. Well maybe they do in the literal sence, but not in the real sence.
We have laws to prevent many things, but obviously it doesn't work or our prisons wouldn't be full to breaking point.

You ask why he wasn't "done for racism", well what did the race relations board or the police actually say to you?

You are confusing being and Indian and being a GP, the vast majority of GP's, whether they are white, black, Indian or whatever are just their to write prescriptions and don't really want to listen to people and their problems.
I certainly do know all about domestic violence and your a fucking retard to think otherwise. So don't go there, touchy subject. There is a choice in the literal sense, it just depends on how strong you are, some aren't strong enough and that's when the choice gets taken away from them...Taking aside domestic violence, I mean the ability to go to work, to not be chained to the kitchen sink all day, to not think that your man is god reincarnated. Women have a sense of freedom and independance here that women in India don't have. My Aunty is Indian and a muslim. She was with my Uncle for over 20 years and defied their religion by leaving him, she was then an outcast on the muslic society becauseof what she done. If a woman leaves her husband here, it's fine. There is nothing wrong with that. There is difference, and each scenario is different.

I reported him to the GP surgery and they said they would call me when he was in surgery so I didnt have to see him, I could wait for my normal doctor to be available. I said is that it? They said yeah, what else is there like? It's not as if it's important is it? So I left it.

I'm not confusing anything, I'm going by my own experiences and why I feel and what I think. I didnt say there that there are statistics or whatever, I said what i have a problem with. Some people have different views, they are just mine.

[WordsforHire]

I do have to say that I am fed up with all these imigrants comming to England from 3rd world countries. They do not even need passports. Simply cross over. All these scotish and welsh comming to England to take our jobs (he he).
You are a cheeky one aren't ya mister lol:Penis

[SGS]

Our GP is private, Indian and superb.

[WordsforHire]

I just wish they were all like that then.

Its just sad when you go to your doctors for help and get put so far down that you think why bother.

Mind you, that doctor wasn't private..But I dont think that makes any difference. Alot of the NHS doctors take turns at Private surgeries anyway...There isn't much difference in their consultations, they just charge heh.

Although I do prefer going private, I suffer bad migraines and skin flares and I was private on my mums insurance when I was younger, you always got a better service there, the hospitals were cleaner, the staff were friendlier and your apointment time was longer than your name...

[dvtimes]

I used to have an indian doctor. She was nice.

She has retired now.

To be honest somtimes I think the indian doctors are better, I feel cheated if i get a non indean doctor.

Think this way, at least (with luck) if you have an indian doctor they will not be drunk from the night before. Think about that when you having an operation.

[WordsforHire]

What makes you think they will they not be drunk?

[SGS]

I just wish they were all like that then.

Its just sad when you go to your doctors for help and get put so far down that you think why bother.

Mind you, that doctor wasn't private..But I dont think that makes any difference. Alot of the NHS doctors take turns at Private surgeries anyway...There isn't much difference in their consultations, they just charge heh.

Although I do prefer going private, I suffer bad migraines and skin flares and I was private on my mums insurance when I was younger, you always got a better service there, the hospitals were cleaner, the staff were friendlier and your apointment time was longer than your name...

We get 30 minutes per consultation with our GP. How long do you get with yours?

[dvtimes]

What makes you think they will they not be drunk?

Religoise belifes.

Thats why I said with luck.

[WordsforHire]

We get 30 minutes per consultation with our GP. How long do you get with yours?
With Bupa, I got an hour.

With my local doctor, he sees me for as long as he needs to. He's very good my usual doctor. He doesn't rush anyone out or whatever, although, he's always late when it comes to seeing you for your appointment but that's because he doesn't stick to the "ten minute" rule. When you book an appointment, it's supposed to last ten minutes.

At my old doctors surgery, I would go in, he'd ask me the problem, I'd tell him, he'd say come back in a fortnight if your still having issues and I was out the door. I was lucky to be in there two minutes.

[SGS]

Ah, you have to go to the surgury.

[WordsforHire]

Religoise belifes.

Thats why I said with luck.
I think a lot of the Indian doctors don't have muslim beliefs. I mean, when it comes to things like drinking and meat, thats more down to religion and self belief than ethnicity.

SO you never know, your doctor could be out at your local booser pissing it up every weekend just like you...Depends on if he or she is religious or not.

[WordsforHire]

Ah, you have to go to the surgury.
I do yeah lol. Im guessing you don't.

Good thing is it's only a two second walk teehee...

The baby doesn't though. He comes out to see her if it's needed. We have three different doctors surgeries in one building...I was like wtf when I first walked in...My doc surgery had one surgery inthe building. He runs his surgery himself, he doesnt partner with other doctors.

I went in one day and the receptionist behind the counter who I always got on with was talking with these two boys behind the counter, I looked at who they were and couldnt believe my eyes when it was a couple lads I was at school with! I was amazed! Turns out the receptionist is their mother! That was a nice day...

[Geezer]

I certainly do know all about domestic violence and your a fucking retard to think otherwise. So don't go there, touchy subject. There is a choice in the literal sense, it just depends on how strong you are, some aren't strong enough and that's when the choice gets taken away from them...Taking aside domestic violence, I mean the ability to go to work, to not be chained to the kitchen sink all day, to not think that your man is god reincarnated. Women have a sense of freedom and independance here


Personal insults and abuse, nice, shows intelligence.

Like I said you obviously have no idea about domestic violence and abusive relationships, if you did you would be saying what you are.
Women who are in abusive relationships do not have the strength either physically or emotionally and that is why/how they end up in such relationships. Even if they are quite strong to start with over time their confidence is chipped away slowly but surely.

Do you know how many women (white) are locked in their homes all day while the husband works and also when he goes out of a night. They are forced to wash, clean, cook and have sex. They are prisoners in their own homes, litterally.

So you whinge about nothing being done yet you say "So I left it"

Also I don't really understand how saying you eat curries is racist, I eat curries and I wouldn't take offense if someone said that's what I eat.
I'm just guesssing here and I could be wrong, but if you have been to your doctor about your weight there is a good chance you were asked about your diet and life style.
Maybe you said you love a curry and that you work at home on the computer, so from this he would obviously know you eat curry and that you son't do much physical work. maybe what he was saying is that you need to change the way you eat and your excercise regime, as you have a problem understanding him, maybe you don't listen well enough, it came across wrong.

I am just guessing here but it does sond possible.

[SGS]

I do yeah lol. Im guessing you don't.

No, he comes to us. Saves us a load of time and agro and we have done it like this for years now.

I really don't believe in the NHS.

[WordsforHire]

Personal insults and abuse, nice, shows intelligence.

Like I said you obviously have no idea about domestic violence and abusive relationships, if you did you would be saying what you are.
Women who are in abusive relationships do not have the strength either physically or emotionally and that is why/how they end up in such relationships. Even if they are quite strong to start with over time their confidence is chipped away slowly but surely.

Do you know how many women (white) are locked in their homes all day while the husband works and also when he goes out of a night. They are forced to wash, clean, cook and have sex. They are prisoners in their own homes, litterally.

I know fine well what it feels like, I've suffered it myself. So no, there was no personal insults to you, Id just appreciate it if you didnt assume you knew all.

I suffered abuse, I was still a school! I met this guy who was older than me, I was 14, we were together for 19 months. In those 19 months, I went from a size 8 to a 22. I was clinically depressed, I wasn't allowed out the house, I had to be straight home from school for when he phoned, if I wasn't there was hell to pay. He'd randomly call numbers in mobile to make sure they were girls, if they werent, well... He demanded sex every night, I was caled a slut, a prostitute, was told no one would ever love me or want me and I should be grateful that he was there! No one else would be right? He didnt let me make friends, I couldnt bring anyone home from school. He would phone me in between school classes to make sure I wasnt walking with any guys, that I was by myself. If I was home and he called when the telly was on, and there was a mans voice on it he would go berserk when he came home. I never cheated on him, not once, I thought I loved him.

SO I believed him and my confidence and strength went from huge to zero. I was fat, I was alone, I couldnt tell anyone, no one would believe me. He was the perfect gentleman in everyone elses eye. I had to shut up and take it, I couldnt leave, he had me brainwashed...19 months later, something snapped...It was over...I couldnt do it anymore...He begged me to come back, said he would change, I stuck to my guns. I was 14, I wasnt even a bloody woman yet. I'm not saying my time was the hardest thing a woman has ever went through, I know of girls who have went through much worse and still are cause they dont have the courage to leave. But I did...eventually. So I do know what it's like, I've been there, I've done it and I won't be letting it happen again.
Yes I did. I wasnt whinging I was making a point.

[QUOTE]Also I don't really understand how saying you eat curries is racist, I eat curries and I wouldn't take offense if someone said that's what I eat.
I'm just guesssing here and I could be wrong, but if you have been to your doctor about your weight there is a good chance you were asked about your diet and life style.
Maybe you said you love a curry and that you work at home on the computer, so from this he would obviously know you eat curry and that you son't do much physical work. maybe what he was saying is that you need to change the way you eat and your excercise regime, as you have a problem understanding him, maybe you don't listen well enough, it came across wrong.

I am just guessing here but it does sond possible.

I walk in, he says to me whats the problem. Didnt bother to look at the notes. I explained about my diet. He asked about my family history and work and stuff. I explained that my whole family suffered from obesity and I didnt want to end up like them, that I wanted something done. He said oh, so your mum work in the shop then. I said no, actually shes a manager at Telewest, oh wheres that shop, he replied. I told him there was no shop. Later on in the convo he asked if my dad worked in the shop too.
He said to me, so your mum cook you lots of curries, I said I dont live with my mother, I live with my fiancee and my daughter. Horror passed across his face, he said oh no not good, you have a daughter at your age and your not married. I told him I dont eat curries, he said oh. We talked a bit more about my BP and stuff and he said well, when you eat lots of curries this kind of thing happens. Again I pointed out I did not eat curries...Are you seeing the pattern?

[WordsforHire]

No, he comes to us. Saves us a load of time and agro and we have done it like this for years now.

I really don't believe in the NHS.
Im starting to feel the same way to be honest. I think if for some reason I had to change doctor I would end up going private, I like my doctor just now so there is no reason to change, and he is helping me, and we are getting somewhere so that's a good thing.

Hospital visits though, gah, I hate them NHS wise.

[dvtimes]

Im starting to feel the same way to be honest. I think if for some reason I had to change doctor I would end up going private, I like my doctor just now so there is no reason to change, and he is helping me, and we are getting somewhere so that's a good thing.

Hospital visits though, gah, I hate them NHS wise.

It sounds like you go to the doctors all the time.

They may be fed up of you now.

They probably say oh no its not her again, lets just humore her a bit till she goes.

[Geezer]

Again I pointed out I did not eat curries...Are you seeing the pattern?

Yep, he doesn't understand what you are saying, try speaking slower ;)

I'm glad you finally agreed with me about the abuse of women then, so it doesn't just happen in India.

[WordsforHire]

Yep, he doesn't understand what you are saying, try speaking slower ;)

I'm glad you finally agreed with me about the abuse of women then, so it doesn't just happen in India.
No it doesnt just happen in India but the point in general I was trying to make is that MOST, lets say most here, women do have a choice if they want to work, if they want to have children etc.

I didnt mean to "insult" or attack you, you just have a habit of jumping the gun and assuming things. It was a touchy subject for me inthe first place hence the gnarlyness..

[WordsforHire]

It sounds like you go to the doctors all the time.

They may be fed up of you now.

They probably say oh no its not her again, lets just humore her a bit till she goes.
I have to go every two weeks to get my BP monitored cause of my tablets and I go every four weeks for a weight/bloods check.

[Elisha Jade]

No, he comes to us. Saves us a load of time and agro and we have done it like this for years now.

That would be cool! Although I really like the 2 doctors I always go and see.

[SGS]

That would be cool! Although I really like the 2 doctors I always go and see.

They will see you privately. You just need to ask and they will give you the options.

[Dirty Derek]

Hey Wordsforhire, why don't you just addmit you're racist rather than trying to hide behind some kind of warped logic.

[Elisha Jade]

They will see you privately. You just need to ask and they will give you the options.

Interesting! That's actually one of the reasons why i'm a bit worried about moving, because they know what i'm like and they seem to do everything they can to find out why something is happening to ease my mind. Still I guess a new doctor would soon learn that.

[WordsforHire]

Hey Wordsforhire, why don't you just addmit you're racist rather than trying to hide behind some kind of warped logic.
Ok explain it to me, how am I racist? Because I have opinions on immigrants? No. Because I get annoyed when I cannot understand people on the phone? Because I don't like the doctor presumed I was a muslim? Please do tell cause Im anxious to hear this one...

The very first time I've been called a racist actually...I've been called a few racist things (pointed towards me...) in my time but never a racist myself...Interesting.

[rogue]

i worked in the NHS for ten years and to be brutally honest, the PC brigade has destroyed the NHS with all the immigrants working there, it really is so bad that a very large percentage of the immigrant workers in the NHS are very, very bad at english (And i mean REALLY bad) they are incomprehensible to each other, other staff and patients. this is not good when peoples lives are at risk. we used to get forigen agency workers using the same name but never the same face. any complaint against an immigrant worker was treated as racisim by managment against the complainant no matter what the complaint was. No matter what a forigen worker did they only ever got the sack when it was found out they were just petending to be a qualified nurse, which happened a lot. and the worst racists? Africans, its amazing how much they hate each other!

[WordsforHire]

Interesting! That's actually one of the reasons why i'm a bit worried about moving, because they know what i'm like and they seem to do everything they can to find out why something is happening to ease my mind. Still I guess a new doctor would soon learn that.
My doc is the same, he explains things to me and doesnt make me feel stupid and stuff...

[WordsforHire]

i worked in the NHS for ten years and to be brutally honest, the PC brigade has destroyed the NHS with all the immigrants working there, it really is so bad that a very large percentage of the immigrant workers in the NHS are very, very bad at english (And i mean REALLY bad) they are incomprehensible to each other, other staff and patients. this is not good when peoples lives are at risk. we used to get forigen agency workers using the same name but never the same face. any complaint against an immigrant worker was treated as racisim by managment against the complainant no matter what the complaint was. No matter what a forigen worker did they only ever got the sack when it was found out they were just petending to be a qualified nurse, which happened a lot. and the worst racists? Africans, its amazing how much they hate each other!
Thats the point Im trying to get across, I just want to be able to go into hospital and understand what is wrong with me. I was given the wrong meds when I was pregnant due to a miscommunication, I mean, if the doctors amongst themselves can't understand each other, how are patients supposed to understand them?

[REBEL]

It amuses me when x-generation immigrants then have negative opinions on immigrants.

[SGS]

My doc is the same, he explains things to me and doesnt make me feel stupid and stuff...

You would even stay where you are now to keep the same doctor?

[WordsforHire]

You would even stay where you are now to keep the same doctor?
Oh hell no, I'd ask about seeing him privately. If it wasnt an option id just have to move on...Simple

[SGS]

Oh hell no, I'd ask about seeing him privately. If it wasnt an option id just have to move on...Simple

There really are lots of excellent doctors now and some of the stuff they do now is light years ahead of even a couple of years ago.

[WordsforHire]

There really are lots of excellent doctors now and some of the stuff they do now is light years ahead of even a couple of years ago.
Yeah, I'm sick of going back and forth to the doctors anyhow lol...Hopefully won't be for much longer..

[Kinky John]

i signed on for quite a while in central Manchester in the 90's
when i got giros i just saw them as a return on years of tax paid
but i met plenty of "career dole'ites" who never had any intention of
going legit, many worked cash in hand, robbing, dealing, even buying
fucking houses with housing benefit checks . . i have to be honest and
say that the larger frauds did tend to be perpetrated by muslim crews
who also owned property and family businesses but claimed nevertheless.

i'm sure the national statistics probably contradict my observations
please bear in mind that i lived with a West indian and Pakistani at
that time . . prejudice was not the issue, it was just blatantly obvious
to ALL of us that the Mcr muslim community had a large "taxless"
sub-economy, benefits were often just seen as legitimate 'extra' income.

as an aside . .

in Holland you need full private health insurance,
if you want quality cover including dental etc its big $
imo the NHS is still great, albeit underfunded and mismanaged.
i even considered Sleazyjetting back to UK to get my teeth sorted :devil:

[WordsforHire]

Its impossible to find an NHS dentist accepting patients up here...

For Alyssa to get a dentist I had to go private, of course they wouldnt take her unless one of her parents went private at the surgery too so I had to go to the dentist for a check up! Fucking gah! Luckily my teeth are fine hehhehe

[Kinky John]

you can find NH dentists much easier in Moss Side because nobody goes private
the surgery feels more like a bookies, and the dentist is a butcher
but . . IT'S FREE !

in some areas i think many of the dentists are tempted by the private $

[WordsforHire]

We have no allocations up in fife anymore, if you want a dentist your put on the waiting list...
Also the smae for doctors, you need to call the NHS and have them allocate you a doctor, you cant just sign up and register.

[JT]

Again I pointed out I did not eat curries...

:eek: Im not supprised he was shocked. Curry is the best food in the world :cheers2:

[smoothballs]

dunno wether to have my day in court with them (as they are threatening) or just set up a standing order for £5 a month....

To clarify things with the doubting thomas's on this thread is...

when I went back to work my pay was not a full months...but because i knew next payslip would be full pay and getting a letter saying benefits have been suspended, I thought ok i will be on full pay anyway so not expecting benefits...but unknown to me as it was my first time claiming...because i did not bring may's payslip down they took it as i earned gross pay, not net pay! yeah they gave me a month to respond but didnt think it was worthwhile as they already suspended payments! how the hell was i to know it would come back and haunt me! oh...and im having to pay extra back in council tax even before this! so come on you fuckers hit me with what ya got cos im fucking mad right now!

[aaron_sterlingcash]

Ive signed on in the past the system is there to use when needed.

[smoothballs]

we have a lot of poles working in our company and already i am seeing resentment with (english) staff about them cos they are not bothering to learn english...I can quite see this new wave of immigrants coming over will be the new racism...there will be a backlash and a rise in support of the BNP...

[aaron_sterlingcash]

sounds like you have trouble ahead

[smoothballs]

oh...and geezer...about abused women...i am great friends with one that came to my home town to escape a violent husband, luckily we have a branch(work) in my town she could move to...however..the refuge she was in, cos she was working, she had to pay £80 a week to stay there, she was the only working woman there, yet the others were on benefits AND knocking back a bottle of spirits a day for free! at least my friend had pride and dignity cos the others didnt! So don't go giving the impression that abused women have a place to go cos unless they can afford it they dont!

[rogue]

I can quite see this new wave of immigrants coming over will be the new racism...there will be a backlash and a rise in support of the BNP...

it's been rising for a while now, ever since the bosnians arrived, talk to people in pubs around my way and there is a real hatred for the e.europeans

[smoothballs]

it's been rising for a while now, ever since the bosnians arrived, talk to people in pubs around my way and there is a real hatred for the e.europeans

is it just me though? bear in mind next May you have Romania and Bulgaria joining the EU....it will be the new racism...if what i see in my workplace is magnified across the country can see it happening!

[Dirty Derek]

Originally posted by wordsforhire:
Ok explain it to me, how am I racist?
You don't think this is a sweeping racist comment?
Originally posted by wordsforhire :
I dont think it's the benefits side of things that bothers me about immigrants.

It's the the fact that they don't respect our customs yet we have to respect theirs.
Hmm...

[WordsforHire]

You don't think this is a sweeping racist comment?

Hmm...
No I dont think it is racist at all. I have no problems with Indians, French, Russians, Polish or any race for that matter. I couldn't care if people were black, blue purple or multi bloody coloured. I don't see where my comments indicated that I was racist in any sense.

I just have an opinion. The same as you do, the same as geezer/smoothballs/JT and everyone else on this board does. Yet you choose to single me out? Everyone here has expressed their views on the immigration problems Britian is having except you, you just go straight for the throat and start throwing slanderous comments around.

[smoothballs]

I agree with "words" the fact that you may want to fly your country's flag outside your home but council tell you to take it down incase it upsets ethnic minorities (or should that be majority?) Yet be in their own country you have to abide by their rules!

[WordsforHire]

I forgot about that story. I couldn't believe it when I saw it in the paper. But oh well, these things happen - they shouldn't but they do.

PC madness is taking over the UK...

[rogue]

I agree with "words" the fact that you may want to fly your country's flag outside your home but council tell you to take it down incase it upsets ethnic minorities (or should that be majority?) Yet be in their own country you have to abide by their rules!

yeah, we was told not to fly the england flag at work for fear of causing offence during the last european cup

[Geezer]

So don't go giving the impression that abused women have a place to go cos unless they can afford it they dont!

Do you just post without reading?

If you care to go back and read what I said you will see I actully said quite the opposite.

[heidi84]

Its silly, a friend of mine was claiming working family tax credits for her and her daughter, she had a woman come to her house and ask about her house job etc and filled in the forms with her. She saw all her payslips etc and said he would process the forms. two weeks later she recieved a letter saying all was ok and payment should be there, sure enough it was and carried on going in every week. When it came to april when her renewal came she filled in the forms and sent them off. Her situation had not changed and she still had the same job, same hours etc but they told her shed been overpaid £1500! fuming she called the helpline and told them a member of their staff had filled in the forms etc so surly it couldnt be wrong, if it was it was her fault for not doing her job! They advised her that the overpayment still stood and they would take it off any benefit she received in the future. Not taking it she asked to speak to a manager and requested someone come back to her home to go thru her documents. After a few weeks they wrote back to her saying sorry and in fact she was UNDERPAID by £300 so they sent her a chq. She was fuming with this and said she wondered how many people this happens to who dont question it!

I never claimed anything except tax credits but im always extra careful now because of that.

[SGS]

If I got the chance to claim back even a tenth of the money I have paid in tax and council tax over the years I would be a very rich man.

[smoothballs]

Do you just post without reading?

If you care to go back and read what I said you will see I actully said quite the opposite.


opps sorry calmed down now and posted in a rage!

[JT]

yeah, we was told not to fly the england flag at work for fear of causing offence during the last european cup

Every house and business round here had a Union jack. No one said anything. But then our MP, Soams, is married to Winston Churchills daughter :cheers2:

[smoothballs]

during the world cup this year the fire brigade here was told not to fly st.georges flag at stations or on wagons in fear of upsetting ethnic people

[JT]

during the world cup this year the fire brigade here was told not to fly st.georges flag at stations or on wagons in fear of upsetting ethnic people

I keep hearing these stories. Mainly in the Sun and Daily Mail. But dont know where people are talking about. I live in the south UK in sussex. I havnt heard of that in any town in sussex. Where did this all happen?

Was the towns you guys live in not flying any flags? Round here everyone had them, on there houses, cars, businesses. I cant see the police arresting people for having Union Jacks

[Elisha Jade]

Up here everyone was slating the England team.. . it's the only time I've actually felt awkward living up here. There was even a guy in tescos being racist towards English people in front of me when I was walking behind him.

[smoothballs]

johnny, this was hampshire fire brigade, yeah everyone had them in windows and on cars ect, that was personal, its when a company or bigwigs decide you cant fly that on our vehicles ect

[Pandemos]

Every house and business round here had a Union jack. No one said anything. But then our MP, Soams, is married to Winston Churchills daughter :cheers2:

I hope not, considering he's Churchill's grandson himself ;)

[JT]

Up here everyone was slating the England team.. . it's the only time I've actually felt awkward living up here. There was even a guy in tescos being racist towards English people in front of me when I was walking behind him.


Funny thing is, most English people would support Scotland as there second team. Up till recent years anyway they did. I always have done, but there is only so much English bashing people will take.

[Elisha Jade]

Funny thing is, most English people would support Scotland as there second team. Up till recent years anyway they did. I always have done, but there is only so much English bashing people will take.

Totally right. My dad couldn't understand it, he said he would have supported Scotland if they went through. All our mates said the reason they were so pissed off was because every single game, the commentary was focused on the England games. I got slated quite a bit whilst it was on. At first I ignored our mates, but after a while I said if Scotland had gotten through, the media would have been raving all about that, so stfu :)

[JT]

I hope not, considering he's Churchill's grandson himself ;)

well you learn something new every day. i thought he was related by marriage. Turns out the fat cunt was his grandson

[SGS]

If you live somewhere in England where you can't fly a St. Georges flag it's time to move. lol

[SGS]

We even had a St. Georges flag flying at our place in Spain until we sold it.

[Kinky John]

If you live somewhere in England where you can't fly a St. Georges flag it's time to move. lol
i agree . . we're not talking Swastikas here

if idiots wanna make an association between the flag

and BNP style nationalism then let them . . if you can't fly your

national flag in your own nation then maybe its time for the government to move on ?

[SGS]

i agree . . we're not talking Swastikas here

if idiots wanna make an association between the flag

and BNP style nationalism then let them . . if you can't fly your

national flag in your own nation then maybe its time for the government to move on ?

When anyone tells me what flag I can and cant fly on land that I own its time to sort something out.

[strictlybroadband]

That got me thinking - how much would an immigrant on benefits actually have got in 2 months? I couldn't find any published figures on this. Anyone?

The answer is: zero.

Despite what you read in the Sun/Daily Mail/BNP weekly, new immigrants get fuck all from the British state.

So for fuck's sake Smoothballs & co, change the record. Immigrants are NOT coming here and taking your hard-earned money. They arrive, get treated like shit by the authorities and the public, and end up doing the shittiest jobs for below minimum wage. Find a harder target to pick on.

[pleasureville]

Totally agree Strictly...Some people have nothing else to do but cus other people that are probably just trying to get on in life. But upsettingly to my Grandad & his fellow older friends in a nice part of Bedford, they had to stay in for a week or so while a few refugees & immagrant went on a rampage from a place designed for immagrants. Sadly it is like every race on this planet, their is always one that will ruin it for the rest of everyone.