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withmarcello
08-08-06, 04:04 PM
Hi this guy wants to put a gallery up of me but he is from the US , he says.... I have put together a gallery to submit to my paid gallery spots, but I need a link to a page on your site with a 2257 statement.
I think that means you have to put your address on your site , but i did not want to do that , does anyone of you out there know a way around it?
cheers Marcello ...

REBEL
08-08-06, 04:52 PM
Either

Tell the yanks to fuck off

or

Put your address online

or

Rent a virtual office address and put that online.

fredicus
08-08-06, 05:13 PM
Is your host in the US?
If so, then a 2257 is requires ( though many ignore it )
If your host is in the UK then the 2257 is not required, as neither you or your host are American ( it's a US law, therefore doesn't apply to us ;) )

withmarcello
08-08-06, 05:21 PM
Gheers mate put dont want to piss the yanks off lol

mOBSCENE
08-08-06, 06:04 PM
Is your host in the US?
If so, then a 2257 is requires ( though many ignore it )
If your host is in the UK then the 2257 is not required, as neither you or your host are American ( it's a US law, therefore doesn't apply to us ;) )

But isn't the point that a US affiliate wants to use UK content on his server in the US, where does that put the US affiliate?

gawdi
08-08-06, 06:45 PM
But isn't the point that a US affiliate wants to use UK content on his server in the US, where does that put the US affiliate?

Getting confused... u said gallery in 1st post now saying content......

If its a FHGs on your server then I'd tell him to piss off. If your providing content for him to do gals on his server then he will require 2257 from you...

They're all overreacting over there at the moment over these visits some producers have been getting.... :)

JT
08-08-06, 06:51 PM
But isn't the point that a US affiliate wants to use UK content on his server in the US, where does that put the US affiliate?


He cant just link to 2257 info. Thats the whole point of the 2257 regs. He needs his own 2257 page and needs to keep his own records. You cant link to the sponsors.

Thats the whole change, the secondary producer (the affiliate webmaster etc) has now got to keep the same records as the primary producer (bloke who shoots content, including programs etc)

JT
08-08-06, 06:52 PM
If its a FHGs on your server then I'd tell him to piss off. If your providing content for him to do gals on his server then he will require 2257 from you...


Exactly and the 2257 info isnt a link you stick up, its your docs.

JT
08-08-06, 06:55 PM
If this guy is doing what I think hes doing. He is making you galleries with your content and hosting them on your servers, and you are paying for a gallery spot.

I personally dont know any TGP's that require the gallery to have 2257 links on them.

Infact I know many that count it as another outgoing link and so wont list galleries

withmarcello
08-08-06, 07:20 PM
Thanks for the info guys ,

xcite-tv
08-08-06, 10:41 PM
Hi this guy wants to put a gallery up of me but he is from the US , he says.... I have put together a gallery to submit to my paid gallery spots, but I need a link to a page on your site with a 2257 statement.
I think that means you have to put your address on your site , but i did not want to do that , does anyone of you out there know a way around it?
cheers Marcello ...

Het mate..hit me up i have a solution for you..for the address

REBEL
08-08-06, 11:18 PM
Is your host in the US?
If so, then a 2257 is requires ( though many ignore it )
If your host is in the UK then the 2257 is not required, as neither you or your host are American ( it's a US law, therefore doesn't apply to us ;) )

Not what we've been told. The hosts we've used have said their is no stipulation for them to comply and so no reason for their customers outside the US to comply.

I realise this can change at anytime with an ammendment to 2257. But until hosts themselves have to comply I don't see how anyone from outside the US using US hosts need to. The FBI have no legal duristiction to turn up in offices outside the US to inspect records. Which is what 2257 is about, publishing an address where records are kept that they can turn up and inspect at any time within the hours stated the office is available for inspection.

So until such time as an ammendment/precident is set that also requires US based hosts to comply I don't think we outside the US using US based hosts need to comply. The only reason we should even consider complying at present is to aid US affiliates. But as that requires giving them the actual docs that actually breaks our own EU laws on data/privacy.

withmarcello
08-08-06, 11:24 PM
Hi guys thanks for all your mails , got it sorted now, apparently,PO box address is sufficient for that,so got around that problem.
cheers Marcello ...

BigD
08-09-06, 12:47 AM
to fully comply with 2257 a PO Box isn't sufficient. It has to be a physical address where you must be present for at least 20 hours a week. However as has been said before many times, this only applies to those residing in the US.

Sarah_Webinc
08-09-06, 08:09 AM
said it beforw...if the FBI shows up to raid a UK home their first call should be to a lawyer and the second to the press

mOBSCENE
08-09-06, 02:19 PM
said it beforw...if the FBI shows up to raid a UK home their first call should be to a lawyer and the second to the press

And the third call to :bandb: