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dvtimes
07-11-06, 01:14 PM
If the BBC wishes to pay large wages then it should go 100% advertising, then they can do what they wish.
The other channels will not pay such wages as there are now so many channels that unless a station can guarantee certain number of viewers then they will not risk it.
Several celebrities have left the BBC but have found it hard to get the same amount of work on other channels.
People will not leave the BBC as its a safety net. People are almost garnteed work, so unless they are foolish they would stay for much lower wages as they would at least have a job for years.
The BBC should cap wages. They are also forcing other channels to pay more in wages and thus have less to spend on TV shows. As such the quality of TV shows goes down while the wages go up.
i dont care what they do if it means that they dont show commercials, sky, et al are almost unwatchable now, (star trek, for example shows the opening credits then jumps to adverts! :()
i dont care what they do if it means that they dont show commercials, sky, et al are almost unwatchable now, (star trek, for example shows the opening credits then jumps to adverts! :()
:agree:
I honestly wouldn't mind paying a tv license,If the BBC showed anything that was worth watching,at the moment they've only got Top Gear & Doctor Who.
heidi84
07-11-06, 02:11 PM
I honestly wouldn't mind paying a tv license,If the BBC showed anything that was worth watching,at the moment they've only got Top Gear & Doctor Who.
yep i agree beaver, i dont get much time to watch tv these days but theres nothing on tv esp the BBC, if there was i wouldnt moan everytime i paid for my license
I honestly wouldn't mind paying a tv license,If the BBC showed anything that was worth watching,at the moment they've only got Top Gear & Doctor Who.
Dr Who has just finished and Top Gear have already driven the DB8 so fuck the licence. :mad:
SmithsMedia
07-11-06, 03:41 PM
If the BBC wishes to pay large wages then it should go 100% advertising, then they can do what they wish.
The other channels will not pay such wages as there are now so many channels that unless a station can guarantee certain number of viewers then they will not risk it.
Several celebrities have left the BBC but have found it hard to get the same amount of work on other channels.
People will not leave the BBC as its a safety net. People are almost garnteed work, so unless they are foolish they would stay for much lower wages as they would at least have a job for years.
The BBC should cap wages. They are also forcing other channels to pay more in wages and thus have less to spend on TV shows. As such the quality of TV shows goes down while the wages go up.
Ah you clearly know f'all about the BBC nor do you know anything about who they are and why we are lucky enough to have it.
Just so you know mate people at the BBC who are graduates and take say technical job, camera work, lighting etc they earn very low wages and work shitty hours.
The shift patterns reflect the news so figure out when its on and you will have a bunch of people in every studio across the nation pumping out local programmes.
My missus is a manager there, shes on call 24/7 and they do call 24/7 she is often called into work without notice to deal with MP's who come in for interviews esp Gordon Brown since she has been cleared & vetted.
As for it being gauranteed work you have to be joking, jobsd are lost every year as they slowly faze out roles and make people multi skilled, we have just gone through a load of redundacies in Leeds, Lincs & Humberside - have you not noticed in Leeds the new BBC building which is a quarter of the size?
Heres antoher reason we need the BBC, its a medium for our goverment to communicate with the world, we are the only free nation in the world to have the ability to transmit messages across the world, its also one of if not the biggest brand in the media world, both on and offline.
Niceto hear you say cap wages, they got a 1% pay rise this year, otu of all the technical staff my missus manages several were not given pay rises because their is no budget left.
Whats more you spout this crap yet you clearly live on their website, why not go to skys site and browse a page with loads of floating adverts - I know why - advertising sucks watching programmes which have 12 mins of ads per hour sucks.
Did you read the annual report you posrted here which was some 155 pages long? Maybe you should, they export and sell programmes to help subsidise the licence fee, they are also in the process of buying up offline publications and TV channels on a global basis to increase their reach to people the world over.
The BBC also pioneer a lot of technology, bring education into schools and work hard with communities by providing open centres that offer free internet, IT training for pensiors, meeting rooms for local business's at no cost.
I have seen what you produce in terms of pictures and films its second rate when compared to professional production people.
So what you see is the tip of the ice burg, what you know is the handfull of channels you see whats more you get all this for £10 a month thats cheaper then sneezeshite or what ever its called!
SmithsMedia
07-11-06, 03:46 PM
I honestly wouldn't mind paying a tv license,If the BBC showed anything that was worth watching,at the moment they've only got Top Gear & Doctor Who.
Working Lunch, top programme
BBC News, Best news on TV
Radio 5 - Superd station ask Excite his lass was on there
Radio 1 - Music not an advert in sight
World Service - Shipping Report
the list goes on mate
whats on sky today - more repeats, more OLD BBC produced programmes and a whole bunch of crap movies. Take away the live sport sky is nothing, think about it.
SmithsMedia
07-11-06, 03:48 PM
yep i agree beaver, i dont get much time to watch tv these days but theres nothing on tv esp the BBC, if there was i wouldnt moan everytime i paid for my license
Again you are just looking at the tip of the iceburg, they produce and offer a lot more then 4 TV channels.
Tonight -
Tue 11 Jul, 19:00 - 19:30 30 mins
Two younger males try to depose Notch, the lone male ruler of the Marsh Pride. Chui the leopard has a go at hunting giraffe. Tiny cheetah cub Toto is at risk from a troop of angry baboons. [S]
Subtitles Widescreen Stereo
Website: http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/programmes/tv/bcd/
Subject:
Factual; Nature & Animals
Lifestyle
Utter quality - :)
SmithsMedia
07-11-06, 03:49 PM
Another top watch tonight
Britain's First Suicide Bombers
Tue 11 Jul, 21:00 - 22:30 90 mins
This film follows the extraordinary journey of the two young British Islamist terrorists who emerged from the suburbs of Derby and Hounslow to bomb a seaside bar in Tel Aviv in April 2003. It reveals previously unknown evidence of how Omar Sharif Khan and Asif Hanif became embroiled in radical politics and how they were involved in a wider network of British Jihadists.
Hanif died in his own explosion and Omar's body was found a fortnight later in the sea off Israel. Three members of Omar's family were later prosecuted - and acquitted - under the Terrorism Act for their alleged knowledge of the atrocity. [S]
WordsforHire
07-11-06, 03:52 PM
I dont mind the BBC, they do more documentaries than that Bloody Animal Planet does but that's about the only decent thing on there unless you enjoy cultural, news, politics...Which a lot of people don't have an interest in...Some do though...
I hate the ads but to be honest would still rather have ads than pay to have a channel that I dont watch.
Pandemos
07-11-06, 04:01 PM
yep i agree beaver, i dont get much time to watch tv these days but theres nothing on tv esp the BBC
With all the channels around these days, I find it hard to believe that there's 'nothing on' for you unless you have an exceptionally narrow range of interests.
As to what's on the BBC today,lemme guess a programme about buying antiques,a programme about selling your old shit,as antiques.How to do up your house as a possible base form which to sell antiques (maybe).Some childrems programming,then soaps.BBC2 possibly a quiz show about antiques,some movie about lost love during the war.nature documetaries 'classic comedy' and boredom.The only BBC product I actually use is the news website and that's not worth the license fee.
Pandemos
07-11-06, 04:04 PM
whats on sky today - more repeats, more OLD BBC produced programmes and a whole bunch of crap movies. Take away the live sport sky is nothing, think about it.
Are you referring to Sky's own channels or the channels available on the Sky platform?
WordsforHire
07-11-06, 04:23 PM
Ads dont bother me, let's me go get a cuppa and a wee break...
They will be asking for some sort of fee next... oh I think they already do
SmithsMedia
07-11-06, 05:34 PM
Are you referring to Sky's own channels or the channels available on the Sky platform?
the buddled Channels - UKTV thats UK Gold etc run all former BBC programmes
Skys own programmes, can't think of any I watch football!
the buddled Channels - UKTV thats UK Gold etc run all former BBC programmes
Skys own programmes, can't think of any I watch football!
UK Gold is the only channel worth watching on sky, well maybe Bravo as well for Men's Work but thats about it.
SmithsMedia
07-11-06, 05:47 PM
UK Gold is the only channel worth watching on sky, well maybe Bravo as well for Men's Work but thats about it.
Bravo - Dog the Bounty Hunter :crown:
xcite-tv
07-11-06, 06:26 PM
I find myself for ONCE agreeing with Mr Smith.. but not about the programmes
the licence fee is worth the BBC website alone... a fantastic resourse
SmithsMedia
07-11-06, 07:06 PM
I find myself for ONCE agreeing with Mr Smith.. but not about the programmes
the licence fee is worth the BBC website alone... a fantastic resourse
B&B would be nothing without links to the BBC web site ;-)
:cheers2:
why the fuck did you have to agree now we cant argue in this thread !
B&B would be nothing without links to the BBC web site ;-)
Should't that be DVT would be nothing with out links to bbc website????
Apart from that I agree wholeheartedly with what you've said...... BBC is superb..... gives u quality and quantity....
Last night there was a prog on BBC4 - 10 things u didnt know about Volcanos - quality gripping and educational stuff....
BBC Radio 4 is the tops, Radio 7 is brill, Radio 2 superb....
Viewing figures for world cup final just published i think I heard correctly ITV c 3 million - BBC c 17 million...... enuff said?
Should't that be DVT would be nothing with out links to bbc website????
Apart from that I agree wholeheartedly with what you've said...... BBC is superb..... gives u quality and quantity....
Last night there was a prog on BBC4 - 10 things u didnt know about Volcanos - quality gripping and educational stuff....
BBC Radio 4 is the tops, Radio 7 is brill, Radio 2 superb....
Viewing figures for world cup final just published i think I heard correctly ITV c 3 million - BBC c 17 million...... enuff said?
3 million against 17 million????
dvtimes
07-11-06, 10:06 PM
Think your missing my point, which is that people on the bbc should not be paid huge wages, such as Jonathan Ross who I think is on 18 million over 10 years.
My point is that wages should be caped for presenters.
SmithsMedia
07-11-06, 10:17 PM
Think your missing my point, which is that people on the bbc should not be paid huge wages, such as Jonathan Ross who I think is on 18 million over 10 years.
My point is that wages should be caped for presenters.
he does not mate, he owns his own production company and 'rents his self out' to the BBC.
JR is worth his weight in gold, he pulls in the viewing traffic, just as Cilla Black, Micheal Aspel and many others before him have.
Think your missing my point, which is that people on the bbc should not be paid huge wages, such as Jonathan Ross who I think is on 18 million over 10 years.
My point is that wages should be caped for presenters.
Funny how many people in this country (usually northerners) still have this same British desease left over from the bad old labour days.
Instead of wanted everyone at the bottom to rise and aspire to get to the top, they wont be happy untill they pull everyone at the top down to the bottom.
Capping wages is a bad bad old idea, left over from the bad old days of Scargil and the rest of them. Who were not happy untill they bought this country to its knees.
A Priest
07-11-06, 10:52 PM
i thought Jonathan Ross was on £80 million over 3 years.... wow when i (mis)heard that at dinner time I thought wossy, you jammy wunt!
i thought Jonathan Ross was on £80 million over 3 years.... wow when i (mis)heard that at dinner time I thought wossy, you jammy wunt!
I havnt heard, but 18mill over the next 10 years doesnt seem alot. I wouldnt have been supprised if his company did get 80mill
SmithsMedia
07-11-06, 11:08 PM
3 million against 17 million????
ad free viewing wins ;-) EVERY TIME
ou know what piss's me off is Logos, everything you watch is caked in water marks
Think your missing my point, which is that people on the bbc should not be paid huge wages, such as Jonathan Ross who I think is on 18 million over 10 years.
My point is that wages should be caped for presenters.
Capped wages? lol
Thank fuck for Thatcher.
ad free viewing wins ;-) EVERY TIME
ou know what piss's me off is Logos, everything you watch is caked in water marks
Thats so that even if it ends up on Guba "bat-ears" Linekar still gets paid. :)
Capped wages? lol
Thank fuck for Thatcher.
Scarey isnt it. Problem is most people think "The brain drain" is an alcopop
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