View Full Version : Asia Carrera is this a bit wrong ???
xcite-tv
06-13-06, 03:01 PM
Seems her hubby died in an accident and as sad as that is, am i alone in thinking this is not quite right? read down to the asking for money bit ....would you have thought she was this broke?
I do understand grief is very hard and i do feel sorry for her and her children
http://www.asiacarrera.com/bulletin.html
:(
Sarah_Maxcash
06-13-06, 03:11 PM
you know what? have your partner die and then talk about how people should behave
WordsforHire
06-13-06, 03:17 PM
That was just a teeny bit harsh Sarah..
Obviously she is feeling mortified but I know I wouldnt be asking for payments from strangers...In fact I dont think I could even continue work online especially because Paul is such a big part of that.
My hear goes out to Asia it really does, it's a sad and horrible thing to happen to any family...I just hope she can cope ok with the kids and that her family are supporting her as best they can.
Sarah_Maxcash
06-13-06, 03:27 PM
well, I know what it feels like to have your husband die and then have people commentate on everything you say in your panic/distress.
People donated to me - I never asked for it but they did and it helped me greatly in paying for a funeral I simply would not have been able to afford.
Now, I know the main difference to many will probably be her asking for it. Fine, I can understand that but then just make up your own mind rather than being mean about it.
Like people on another board wondering why they haven't seen proof of his death. The same people started to say I made up my husband's death too. So, perhaps it brought up some bad memories.
WordsforHire
06-13-06, 03:30 PM
Sorry to hear about your experience and I dont think (and I hope) xcite didnt mean to imply that he didnt believe her husband was dead.
I suppose she is just being a bit brass is all, I am a shy person and when it comes money I certainly dont like asking for it but maybe because I am in that situation I dont know how I would feel.
I dont think he was questioning her husbands death, just simply questioning why she was asking for money when she is obviously very succesful
Elisha Jade
06-13-06, 03:33 PM
I dont think she would be that rich anyway, she hasnt done any films for ages.
Two things to point out here, especially with regards to all the posts on GFY. I know this isnt what xcite was asking, but its caused a stir over there and thats what Sara is talking about.
1. Like Sarah, she never asked for money from GFY, so they should keep their nose out.
2. I wouldnt donate any money, not becuase I dont think she deserves it, or becuase I dont think its right, or anything. just be becuase I have no opinions on her one way or the other.
I dont know her and have far more people round me that I would give money to first. I did donate to sarah's fund at the time. Becuase Sarah was and still is one of the people I see on the forums, who I actually listen to and like and at the time I felt it was the right thing to do.
With Asia, I would say sometimes you have to make allowances for people, especially in times of Grief, maybe in hindesight she will look back and regret it. maybe she wont.
I dont think she would be that rich anyway, she hasnt done any films for ages.
She use to have and maybe still has a succesfull affiliate program. She certainly has tons of fans and tons of exclusive content that she shot before having a family (as I understand it)
Elisha Jade
06-13-06, 03:45 PM
So technically she could make money through people promoting her rather than donating?
So technically she could make money through people promoting her rather than donating?
I imagine, her target audience for donations is not the webmaster community, but her own fans and surfers. I could be wrong though.
xcite-tv
06-13-06, 04:05 PM
well, I know what it feels like to have your husband die and then have people commentate on everything you say in your panic/distress.
People donated to me - I never asked for it but they did and it helped me greatly in paying for a funeral I simply would not have been able to afford.
Now, I know the main difference to many will probably be her asking for it. Fine, I can understand that but then just make up your own mind rather than being mean about it.
Like people on another board wondering why they haven't seen proof of his death. The same people started to say I made up my husband's death too. So, perhaps it brought up some bad memories.
Then maybe you should read the whole post before blurting out !!!
I do feel so sorry for her, her child and the one on the way..her situation must be desperate emotionally and i am sure we all sympathise...
but to be apparantly such an intelligent person as is well documented she was. To end up in this horrible mess where he was uninsured and she has nothing left is unimagineable for someone who was for years at the top of her game..
You know it was not personally aimed at you. How could anyone have known you sufferd the same thing
xcite-tv
06-13-06, 04:06 PM
Two things to point out here, especially with regards to all the posts on GFY.
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i didnt see all the fuss on GFY.. kinda wish i had now
Like people on another board wondering why they haven't seen proof of his death. The same people started to say I made up my husband's death too. So, perhaps it brought up some bad memories.
People will make anything up to try and get a few bob. There have been many people on many boards making up shit to get a bit of sympathy and money.
I wouldn't give anything to anyone I don't know whether it's true or not.
In my local many moons ago a womans husband died and they came round with a collection box, I declined and a couple of blokes got the hump. I told them to fuck off as I didn't even know the bloke. People think that just cos someone dies we al have to give, bollocks.
Having said that if I snuff it soon all donations will be gladly accepted by my wife :crown:
I just read my post and thought I should add; I told them to fuck off when they got the hump, not when they asked :)
WordsforHire
06-13-06, 04:50 PM
I suppose this all comes down to personal opinion in this situation. None of us know her personally (or Im assuming so) so really all we can do is wish her the best of luck in sorting things out for her new family.
Death is always a delicate thing...
I don't think there any rules in the etiquette book on how one "should" behave when their husband dies - I hope to god it's not something I have to find out first hand for many many many years.
I do remember when Sarah lost her husband - and I have to say it's one of the only times I've ever read a post and wished I could do something, even a hug, for a complete stranger. Sarah was obviously devastated, but maintained a lot of dignity in the face of some real tossers posting about her loss.
My advice to people would be: if you wanna donate then donate, if you don't wanna donate then don't - but keep the info between yourself and your bank account, or you'll be bound to piss someone off.
i think its just another part of web culture, a bit like the works whip-a-round.
Years ago, i was a member of an underground DVD pirate site, and after my flat caught alight due to dodgy wireing by my wanker of a landlord, i had to inform the site that i had lost almost everything and was unable to send out any films. the forum all got behind me and offered money and other support i may have needed ... I declined though as i didn't really need cash at the time but i still wish i had found someone to kneecap the landlord.
My point is, that sometimes web communities seem to be replacing the neighbourly community and there is still a spirit of helpfulness.
xcite-tv
06-13-06, 06:35 PM
I don't think there any rules in the etiquette book on how one "should" behave when their husband dies - I hope to god it's not something I have to find out first hand for many many many years.
I do remember when Sarah lost her husband - and I have to say it's one of the only times I've ever read a post and wished I could do something, even a hug, for a complete stranger. Sarah was obviously devastated, but maintained a lot of dignity in the face of some real tossers posting about her loss.
My advice to people would be: if you wanna donate then donate, if you don't wanna donate then don't - but keep the info between yourself and your bank account, or you'll be bound to piss someone off.
Agree 100% and if i had known of Sarah's case maybe i wouldnt have posted...
ukwebmasters
06-13-06, 06:42 PM
sarah was bereaved so she kicks off, its ancient history
Sarah_Maxcash
06-13-06, 06:59 PM
It isn't just my case and I wasn't meaning to just strike back at Xcite in particular. It just bugs me how people in general seem to like to find any reason to pick people apart when they are at their lowest. Today on a trip around the boards you have people attacking the motives of a recent widow and people finding it okay to make fun of a woman's disability because she is divorcing a famous person. I was just becoming frustrated with humanity when I read the post.
but I will say UKwemasters that for me it is anything but ancient history.
"I just read my post and thought I should add; I told them to fuck off when they got the hump, not when they asked"
LoL
xcite-tv
06-13-06, 08:02 PM
It isn't just my case and I wasn't meaning to just strike back at Xcite in particular. It just bugs me how people in general seem to like to find any reason to pick people apart when they are at their lowest. Today on a trip around the boards you have people attacking the motives of a recent widow and people finding it okay to make fun of a woman's disability because she is divorcing a famous person. I was just becoming frustrated with humanity when I read the post.
but I will say UKwemasters that for me it is anything but ancient history.
comparing what Asia Carrera and indeed yourself went/is going through to that money/fame/attention seeking complete bitch,, (the words of those who have had dealings with her) is also wrong. If we want to make fun of her disability then so what...its called KARMA in my belief system....
She left a decent guy the week before they were due to marry....(by a quick call from the airport where she was supposed to be picking up her sister to go to the wedding then fucked off) her so she could capture a rich man who could turn her into some "Princess Di" figure.... dont talk of "humanity" about people like her... real nice people dont do stuff like that....
she deserves all she gets
As for Asia Carrera, She deserves all the sympathy in the world.. what a heartbreak for anyone... but ...no life insurance and no money from a great career, whilst its no crime, but asking for donations in that way is just asking for the reaction she is getting
If it happened to me.... i certainly would not have had the time to update my website asking for donations or even think about money so soon after a such a tradgedy
Elisha Jade
06-13-06, 08:05 PM
Mmm people deal with it in different ways though and no one knows how they will until they go through it. She mentioned on her site she was a social phobic - so perhaps her only life is online now?
Sarah_Maxcash
06-13-06, 08:15 PM
There is a lot of sitting around in the middle of the night when you can't sleep because you are still in shock (I didn't sleep more than an hour or two a night for two weeks and had to be put on pills to knock me out) that gives you time to post, etc. However, for that matter she might not even being the one updating. Somebody could be doing it for her.
My point was similar to what Rosie said that it bugs me when people back seat drive emotional distress.
Elisha Jade
06-13-06, 08:28 PM
:(
There are many ways she could have got the money without "begging", she could do signed DVD's, pics, shirts anything.
She could have set up something like this www.cumhere4xxx.com so instead of asking for charity she would actually be giving something in return, earning it.
actually after having read that page http://www.asiacarrera.com/bulletin.html i'm rather disgusted, its just one big begging letter :(
Elisha Jade
06-13-06, 09:40 PM
She could have set up something like this www.cumhere4xxx.com so instead of asking for charity she would actually be giving something in return, earning it.
Is that yours geezer??
xcite-tv
06-13-06, 09:57 PM
actually after having read that page http://www.asiacarrera.com/bulletin.html i'm rather disgusted, its just one big begging letter :(
Yeah thats my point and so soon after something so bad happened...I for one would not be thinking money at at time like that
WordsforHire
06-13-06, 09:59 PM
wow that girl on cumhere4xxx looks kinda evil....
Is that yours geezer??
Yeah, it's just something I set up when some girl was begging, sorry asking for money to feed her kid. I just said you don't need to beg do something like this. It took me all of half an hour to do :)
Yeah, it's just something I set up when some girl was begging, sorry asking for money to feed her kid. I just said you don't need to beg do something like this. It took me all of half an hour to do :)
Did she get her kit off in the end?
Did she get her kit off in the end?
Another £100 sould do it :Penis
Elisha Jade
06-13-06, 11:09 PM
Yeah, it's just something I set up when some girl was begging, sorry asking for money to feed her kid. I just said you don't need to beg do something like this. It took me all of half an hour to do
Cool lol :) I didn't realise they actually worked lol
Cool lol :) I didn't realise they actually worked lol
I was trying to make a point and in this case it would work well, she offers pics of her and gets more naked with the more "donations", at least it doesn't then feel like begging.
WordsforHire
06-13-06, 11:17 PM
*will take of my clothes if people offer me work*
*will take of my clothes if people offer me work*
You was offered over $250 just to show your tits
WordsforHire
06-13-06, 11:45 PM
I was led to believe that ofer was retracted...if it still stands let me know ;)
Blue Players
06-14-06, 08:19 AM
Asia Carrera is a complete bitch. She would always tell people how intelligent she was and look down her nose at you. She is probably broke as her and her husband lived the high life getting private jets everywhere.
Elisha Jade
06-14-06, 11:38 AM
I feel sorry for their little girl in the photos. It really does pull on your heart strings.
WordsforHire
06-14-06, 12:06 PM
The story really pulls on your heart strings and I do feel completely sympathetic towards her no matter how she has acted, bitchy or no. That's a fate you don't wish on your worst enemy.
I do remember when Sarah lost her husband - and I have to say it's one of the only times I've ever read a post and wished I could do something, even a hug, for a complete stranger. Sarah was obviously devastated, but maintained a lot of dignity in the face of some real tossers posting about her loss.
Amen!
I tend to be immune to that kind of thing, I feel sympathy for the situation, but it doesn't "hit" me. Sarah's was the first time I really had empathy for the person posting. And although I couldn't imagine doing it myself in the same situation, for the first time I really understood someone posting to a board about it. Coming home from the hospital alone, and needing to say "my husband is dead" out loud to make it "real" but probably not wanting to actually phone/talk to anyone close (family etc) because then you have to deal with their shock and emotional baggage (for want of a better term) on top of your own, a forum you can just log off afterwards.
Sarah_Maxcash
06-14-06, 02:15 PM
yeah..I needed to freak out before I called people and told them because it wasn't going to help his kids, etc if I was a mess on the phone. Plus, I was alone in the house for maybe the third time in eight years of marriage. I know now I was in physical and emotional shock.
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