Why I'm voting Labour [Archive] - Beer and Bollocks

Simon

03-02-10, 08:35 AM

Vote Labour and the markets will meltdown. Look forward to a 1970s style devaluation of the pound, including possibly another visit from the IMF to bail us out. On the plus side, 1:1 on both dollar and euro.

Countries fucked anyway, it'll take years to undo what they've done already - assuming of course, that anyone even tries. So as a true Tory I'm going to vote in the most selfserving way I can - by voting Labour

Guest

03-02-10, 09:23 AM

Vote Labour and the markets will meltdown. Look forward to a 1970s style devaluation of the pound, including possibly another visit from the IMF to bail us out.

The markets would be fine with a Labour majority. Of course they would prefer a Tory one, but the key thing is stability. The biggest risk comes from a hung parliament, which is one of the reasons why the pound is weaker at the moment.

Simon

03-02-10, 10:14 AM

Stability would be fine if the UK wasn't just digging a deeper hole every day. Labour won't stop spending, a hung parliament won't, even the tories aren't offering much hope of change.

Guest

03-02-10, 11:29 AM

Stability would be fine if the UK wasn't just digging a deeper hole every day. Labour won't stop spending, a hung parliament won't, even the tories aren't offering much hope of change.

Labour will cut spending, but it won't end up being as much as they claim they will because Brown is addicted to the notion all society's ills can be cured by throwing cash at them. The worst thing is that if Labour win Darling will be out as Chancellor, which would leave Brown completely unopposed on economic matters. If you think things are bad now, they would have been a whole lot worse without Darling.

The Tories would do better when it comes to deficit reduction, but they've created a rod for their own back by commiting to increased NHS spending. It means they would have to make bigger cuts elsewhere and that will be harder.

redwhiteandblue

03-02-10, 11:35 AM

I don't think the Tories want to win this do they? It's a bit of a poisoned chalice, I wonder if someone in the Tory party has calculated that a minority Labour government would collapse within a year leaving them to win a second election with a much bigger majority. Or are they really that inept and have just forgotten how to win?

strictlybroadband

03-02-10, 01:12 PM

03-02-10, 02:18 PM

I have also decided to vote Labour. For two reasons listed below

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/03/30/article-1165994-013AF34900000578-208_468x313.jpg

Two bigger tossers I am yet to see

adultbusiness

03-02-10, 02:24 PM

Two bigger tossers I am yet to see

You sure about that?

http://standpoint.enfinet.com/files/u1/brown-darling.jpg

03-02-10, 02:30 PM

You sure about that?

http://standpoint.enfinet.com/files/u1/brown-darling.jpg

You know what I really think so yes. George Osborne from what I can see is a complete burk and Cameron is not much better, he has been pretty much given the election and still looks like he isn't going to come any where near winning. Even Cameron doesn't trust George Osborne and has bought back Ken Clarke to hold his hand and try not to make him look such a pratt.

I do believe for the first time in my life I am going to vote Labour.

:communist:

dvtimes

03-02-10, 02:33 PM

Labour have a big chance of winning, simply as they have developed a benafit dependent society. We have so many in the UK now dependent on forms of benafit that they will have no choice to vote for Labour.

Its a bit like the 80's when Thatcher sold council houses. By doing so that created for more middle class who were also less dependent on benafits and thus more likly to vote conservative.

The other problem is that we have millions who would/will vote regardless for labour as they always have and they see conservatives as some sort of enermy.

the uk at the moment looks like it could go bust. its run out of cash and is not gutting the bills.

labour want to do cuts with ease while conservatives want to cut now.

the problem is labours ease cuts people like the sound of as it sounds like less jobs lost. the problem is, is that it would take far longer to sort things out and in fact could mean far more job losses.

the swedish had this problem and they just cut everything accross the sector and that inc hospitals, police and so on. while drastic, this worked.

the problem at the moment is we have not started to do the cuts. its clear it will be a shock to the system.

dvtimes

03-02-10, 02:37 PM

i do not think George Osborne isw bad. but he is not experienced and made boo boo's.

he made a BIG errer with that russian billionair the other year. When questioned he tried spinning things. But if he had said, 'yes i was on the boat and had lots to eat, and it was great and ......' it would have stoped. but he foolishly thinks he can spin and all that happenerd was it cariied on for many days.

dvtimes

03-02-10, 02:39 PM

ps

i vote green. i am not a conservative, but i would rather have conservatives in.

pps

anyone in porn who votes for labour is voting for a party who wants to stop porn and ban freedoms.

dvtimes

03-02-10, 02:43 PM

pps

labour prove time after time they DO NOT belive in democracy and are by nature curopt.

did you not see even just last week that labout have made it so in many areas it being women only mp's to run, but in one area it was all male. Oh and the candade was mrs harmans husband. thats right they fixed it for her husband to get in.

and keep loooking each week at the labour mp's who are retiaring before the election to avoide paying back expenses and to get huge pensions. many have been given top jobs in firms they have helped out too.

strictlybroadband

03-02-10, 02:45 PM

I do believe for the first time in my life I am going to vote Labour.

:communist:

I don't know if I can bring myself to do it... I think I'll be switching to Green (like DVT :noway2:)

dvtimes

03-02-10, 02:48 PM

I don't know if I can bring myself to do it... I think I'll be switching to Green (like DVT :noway2:)
green have some good policiys

the only thing they have said that i do not agree with is they want to restrick driving to 400mph (i think) whi i do not think would be that green.

they are to me the real liberal party.

and i hope they are relaxed on porn.

i have said it before, but i can see the green party in time being the 3rd party.

what is very very worring is the huge suport for such as the bnp. i listen to talk sprot and its amazing how many suport this party.

dvtimes

03-02-10, 02:55 PM

but why would anyone involved with porn or indeed have a business voye labour?

unless you love to pay high tax and have porn baned more and more.

look at the chap who runs the pole dancing club. he could find he looses his business is a few people moan.

have you been out latly?

these days if i dive anywere in the uk, there seems to be rubbish all over. but then again often i am filling in all the holes in the road that never get repaired so often that i am unable to look out of the wndows.

but then again, we would also expekt more stikes on the postaql service and probably everything else.

my mate was gaying he would vote labour.

so i said to him, what benafit for you is there voting labour?

also i painted out that he had to buy a cheaper plasma this year as his wank bonus was smaller due to labour.

unless your on benafits, why vote labour? unless you find money a pain and want the goverment to have it.

wingless

03-02-10, 02:56 PM

dvtimes

03-02-10, 02:58 PM

i havent a clue which way im going to vote, not a fan of either of the 2 mains, dislike the lib dem's and despite aggreeing with a few of the green partys policys i dislike them as a whole and know there never going to have any real power
well think this way, how many customers of your collars have you lost as people now fear being arrested if they are involved with bondage.

thanks to labour

strictlybroadband

03-02-10, 03:02 PM

unless your on benafits, why vote labour?

Child tax credits
Massive investment in schools
Huge investment in hospitals
Much better train services, BUT MOST IMPORTANT:
To stop Cameron being elected

wingless

03-02-10, 03:03 PM

well think this way, how many customers of your collars have you lost as people now fear being arrested if they are involved with bondage.

thanks to labour

i would guess at none, those involved in the lifestyle wouldent stop due to any existing laws, they might not photograph it and plaster it over the web (or mabie they would) but i really dont think it would stop anyone buying collars or other bdsm related gear

dvtimes

03-02-10, 03:10 PM

Child tax credits
Massive investment in schools
Huge investment in hospitals
Much better train services, BUT MOST IMPORTANT:
To stop Cameron being elected

2 & 3

there is a difference between pumping billions into schools and nhs and putting money in and making them work.

billions have gone into daft projects in the nhs such as a now non working pc sysatem (i think cost 10 billion).

the nhs is not efficent nor affective. money is notr the answer and to be honest the result from the cash is not much of an improvment. in fact its rather poor.

and education is terrible. mainly target driven.

kids are leaving with such a poor education that universities and businesses are having to train them before joining.

1. why is it a good idea to payt people to have kids. surly if people cannot afford them they should not be encuraged to.

4. not 100% sure labour have added to what the conservatives had? i may be wroing, but i do not think labout have added a lot of tracks. if anything they simply pushed up the cost of tickets by making the trains firm pay even larger costs.

adultbusiness

03-02-10, 03:12 PM

Always been a Tory and would never vote for anyone else....

Anyone who votes for Labour is a blind fucknut and in the words of the great late man himself: Bollocks Up Your Arsehole!

wingless

03-02-10, 03:14 PM

2 & 3

there is a difference between pumping billions into schools and nhs and putting money in and making them work.

so putting a party in power that have 0 experence in the answer? granted labour havent done a great job but i cant say for certain that anyone else would have done better and im pritty sure the green party would do worse

i have emailed them to see what there standpoint on bdsm laws etc are so when i get a response i shall let you know

adultbusiness

03-02-10, 03:15 PM

Massive investment in schools

Are you joking? Over subscribed, under funded... try getting an 11 year old into a decent local school and you'll realise how shit they are!

I have 3 at private schools because of Labours fuckery...

Have you noticed how even the roads have gone to shit, pot holes everywhere... we are living in a 3rd world country run by fuckwits :reading:

redwhiteandblue

03-02-10, 03:17 PM

I've not always been a Tory voter, but I'll be voting for them this time. Vote for Labour and you're not really voting for Brown, more the Dark Lord of the Sith (Mandleson as he is otherwise known). Didn't really like Thatcher when she was in power but by Christ I'd vote for her now if we could somehow clone her as she was then.

dvtimes

03-02-10, 03:17 PM

Always been a Tory and would never vote for anyone else....

Anyone who votes for Labour is a blind fucknut and in the words of the great late man himself: Bollocks Up Your Arsehole!

and as i say, if labour get in a gane, chances are they will try to close your poile dacing club.

or at very least i bet a licence will go up if not other tax on it.

anyway, as i say why would anyone in the porn biz vote labour.

ps

its ok, for jerry as he has such little bills. he even avoids vat on clothes as he is so small he shops at gap kids.

dvtimes

03-02-10, 03:18 PM

Are you joking? Over subscribed, under funded... try getting an 11 year old into a decent local school and you'll realise how shit they are!

I have 3 at private schools because of Labours fuckery...

Have you noticed how even the roads have gone to shit, pot holes everywhere... we are living in a 3rd world country run by fuckwits :reading:

bmw have had problems (only in the uk) as the roads are wrecking there fancy wheels.

redwhiteandblue

03-02-10, 03:20 PM

so putting a party in power that have 0 experence in the answer?

This is a false argument, as by definition any party that hasn't been in power for a while won't have any experience. Besides, Ken Clarke has plenty of experience, he was the one who bequeathed Labour a strong economy for them to squander.

dvtimes

03-02-10, 03:22 PM

so putting a party in power that have 0 experence in the answer? granted labour havent done a great job but i cant say for certain that anyone else would have done better and im pritty sure the green party would do worse

i have emailed them to see what there standpoint on bdsm laws etc are so when i get a response i shall let you know

under that argument you would never vote any party in.

conservatives have some experienced people in the party.

put it this way, if they give people back freedoms labour have taken away, then that would be enogh.

put it this way labour have beeb in power for 10 or more years.

the result is when i go out, i see litter, i see holes in the road, i see things falling aport.

and i drive all over the uk and i see the same thing.

when i look at labour i see corruption. i see mp's who are only looking after themselves.

strictlybroadband

03-02-10, 03:24 PM

there is a difference between pumping billions into schools and nhs and putting money in and making them work

Almost every school and hospital in my part of London has been partly or completely rebuilt. The primary school I went to was built in the 40s and has now been rebuilt. The secondary school I went to was mostly Victorian and has mostly been rebuilt.

Brown had to replace infrastructure that was falling apart by the 90s. Unfortunately he used public-private-partnership funding which worked out far more expensive than just public funding.

strictlybroadband

03-02-10, 03:25 PM

Bollocks Up Your Arsehole!

No, Bollocks up your Arsehole, Jewboy.

SGS

03-02-10, 03:26 PM

Always been a Tory and would never vote for anyone else....

Anyone who votes for Labour is a blind fucknut and in the words of the great late man himself: Bollocks Up Your Arsehole!

Agreed.

dvtimes

03-02-10, 03:27 PM

the worst thing labour did was to charge students for university.

there was a time people went to uni just to learn.

now it has a price on it.

and the problem is they pushed so many to uni, a degree is not worth anything.

ie,

when i was 18, the papers were looking for graduates and paying good wages.

now firms just seek anyone, and pay rock bottom, as they know most people applying will have a degree. so you can get a graduate for next to nothing.

dvtimes

03-02-10, 03:32 PM

The secondary school I went to was mostly Victorian and has mostly been rebuilt.

so what was the benafit of that?

i personaly would prefer a solid victorian building to some modern cheap building.

ps

i supose the school brings back bad merrories of jerry having his head pushed down the loo each day.

dvtimes

03-02-10, 03:35 PM

Almost every school and hospital in my part of London has been partly or completely rebuilt.

but has it added anything?

ok, if the building was in a poor state thats oner thing, but they seem to have done this with buildings that were is a very good state.

and who got the copntracts to build them?

ie, i wonder how many labourt mp's who will retire this year will be getting non executive positions on building firms and so on.

strictlybroadband

03-02-10, 03:35 PM

so what was the benafit of that?

i personaly would prefer a solid victorian building to some modern cheap building

This isn't Leeds, we got proper builders down here (Polish ones).

Here's the new building, it's quite snazzy http://www.qpcs.brent.sch.uk/

dvtimes

03-02-10, 03:37 PM

This isn't Leeds, we got proper builders down here (Polish ones).

Here's the new building, it's quite snazzy http://www.qpcs.brent.sch.uk/

looks vulgar

probably vandalised in a months time

ps

i thought they had told you that your not alowed near schools