View Full Version : SmithsMedia, some questions you seem to have issues with...
there is a number of questions that you didn't answer yesterday. you found time to spout your nazi style propaganda, but you didn't back much of it up. why is that? lacking the brains for original thoughts? issues with actual arguments, if they aren't prepared for you? or did you just happen to miss them? ;)
find the questions you avoided below, if you cannot answer them, just say so, and we all know you are just running a big mouth with no brains to match. ignore them totally, and prove your are just a propaganda repeating little nazi boy. :)
http://www.beerandbollocks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2173
what's your deal about contributing? are you suggesting non voters do not work or pay taxes?
And what about other people claiming state benefit, like the disabled?
special attention to this one, you left out a whole bunch for some reason, yet answered where you could spout propaganda material: http://www.beerandbollocks.com/forum/showpost.php?p=26016&postcount=40
secondly, what does a belief system have to do with anything?
also, explain how you man of god can peddle porn?
based on what, please lay out your plans and rules for that. (benefit cut back)
explain how (an ID card makes sense)
your turn. :)
daveydude
12-12-05, 05:08 PM
Popcorn time?
not that i know of, just nosey how the answers could be. ;)
NumptyNuts
12-12-05, 05:48 PM
well I could do all those things but it may really nice if you used your brain to contribute,
I may say things that really hit a nerve with people, I may say things that I know will rattle certain peoples cages on this board.
heres another joke, been to the doctors and the pharmacy today, both of these has one disabled bay - yet the sports centre has 8.
You see this was my original point though you and others decided to avoid that and get on your band wagon.
ID cards are the best idea this god forsaken country has ever proposed and not followed through but you wouldnt be able to see that, if you watch the news or are an active person in your real community then maybe just maybe you can see why they are needed.
Benefit cap - simple if you are under 25 and never had a job you get nothing, and I mean nothing, given this day and age theres no excuse not to be working or at the very least retraining to forfill the needs that are presented to you. If someone whos not even 16 has a baby give them nothing, why should we, their parents can look after them why should they given perks for being dumb.
Beleif system, never proposed one, churches are buildings, they were built as places of worship - communities need to get back to using them, Ive said this before you will no doubt be enjoying christmas, so you must have some beleifs.
People claiming benefit, unless you have done this or no people who do this its hard to see just how people play and steal from the central funds our taxes fund. The reason we pay benefits to certain sections of our community is done so to help reduce crime, its it in some cases proctection money.
BTW to call me a nazi is a little extreme its like me calling you a sheep
8 years ago I was homeless, I slept on pallets and nothing to my name, the state offered me all kinds of nice things, flats, money you name it even a clothing allowence.
I declined this help and did something which seems to alude most young people in similar situations within UK that is get a job and rent somewhere to live.
People who I deal with in the real world in shops banks etc comment on how I am polite and think of others, in fact even through my entire school years despite failing teachers felt the same way about me. We as a household recycle and support our local community and entertain exchange students from Japan.
You calling me a nazi reminded me of a time when a chap from the local shop had told my father I had shouted racial abuse at him. My father took a belt to me with out asking questions - he was fuming and who'd blame him -, I was then dragged to the shop for the guy to turn around and say no it was not him, he was not even there.
It's even more startling that you have not even given an input as to why parking space are allocated in the way they are. Maybe you have first hand experience of spaces that have been put in the wrong place.
The guy that don't want to vote, thats great, another lazy sod who can't be bothered - we have estates full of people like that.
NumptyNuts
12-12-05, 05:49 PM
Popcorn time?
no we shall save that for when we discuss your SMS intergration and reporting tools :eyebrows:
dvtimes
12-12-05, 05:59 PM
My thoughts.
One of the major sorses of crime is to me Heroine. If you could reduce it I am sure crime would drop. The best method is to open drug rehabilitation centres.
I see no valid use for ID cards. I fail to see how it would prevent terrist strikes. An example being, what if I had a valid ID card (pretending that you could not get fakes with ease). How is that going to stop me from getting a train to London and setting a bomb off? Especially if icomided suicide at the same time.
I think its also easy to say that homeless can get a job. I see some who have clearly got learning disabilities and unable to make real decisions for themselves. Or they have drug or alcohol problems. When I was a student nurse, I was a learning disabilities nurse. I left as I got depressed how those with learning disabilities were on the street and because they have 'rights' we had to leave them. Often these people were beaten up and raped, but as they had a mind of a 5 year old, they thought it was a normal life.
For many benefits are vital. But unfortunately its the few that abuse it.
daveydude
12-12-05, 06:00 PM
no we shall save that for when we discuss your SMS intergration and reporting tools :eyebrows:
I'll get some extra-large ones in then :P
You have more email by the way.
maxdaforce
12-12-05, 06:07 PM
i'm thick-explain why ID cards are needed?
NumptyNuts
12-12-05, 06:15 PM
My thoughts.
One of the major sorses of crime is to me Heroine. If you could reduce it I am sure crime would drop. The best method is to open drug rehabilitation centres.
I see no valid use for ID cards. I fail to see how it would prevent terrist strikes. An example being, what if I had a valid ID card (pretending that you could not get fakes with ease). How is that going to stop me from getting a train to London and setting a bomb off? Especially if icomided suicide at the same time.
I think its also easy to say that homeless can get a job. I see some who have clearly got learning disabilities and unable to make real decisions for themselves. Or they have drug or alcohol problems. When I was a student nurse, I was a learning disabilities nurse. I left as I got depressed how those with learning disabilities were on the street and because they have 'rights' we had to leave them. Often these people were beaten up and raped, but as they had a mind of a 5 year old, they thought it was a normal life.
For many benefits are vital. But unfortunately its the few that abuse it.
I dont think cards will prevent one person wanting to do something so bad as blow up a bus or tube, Israle is living proof of this as they continue to struggle with bombs.
They will however have lots of practical uses such as proving ID, storing your medial records, treatment history. Anything that makes it more difficult for people to pretend they are me or forge they way into the Uk is good for me.
The only concern is if people loose them, if they do then they should be flogged in public then placed in the stocks.
London was under worse threat when the IRA did bomb us on a regular basis this current terror feels more like a cold war type situation.
Im no expert though they do say abuse stems from abuse, then to treat this we have to develop a more civilised nation, teach young people values and to respect elders.
NumptyNuts
12-12-05, 06:16 PM
I'll get some extra-large ones in then :P
You have more email by the way.
I dont know where its being sent dude Im not gettting anything from you :)
use - webmaster[]smithslookup.co.uk
ID cards are the best idea this god forsaken country has ever proposed and not followed through but you wouldnt be able to see that, if you watch the news or are an active person in your real community then maybe just maybe you can see why they are needed.
I agree that ID cards are a good idea, in theory, in that they will establish a uniform identification system, something useful for all manner of purposes.
However, unlike the government I don't believe they will do anything at all to combat terrorism. Also, I believe the ID card system is a financial black hole and that that money could be spent on better things.
Beleif system, never proposed one, churches are buildings, they were built as places of worship - communities need to get back to using them, Ive said this before you will no doubt be enjoying christmas, so you must have some beleifs.
If it were up to me, churches and other places of worship would be demolished or put to other uses, such as converted into flats or used as community halls.
daveydude
12-12-05, 06:32 PM
I dont know where its being sent dude Im not gettting anything from you :)
use - webmaster[]smithslookup.co.uk
Ah sorry, I've been sending to the Hotmail address you use for MSN.
I'll use smithslookup.co.uk from now on. Let me know if there's nothing from me in your Hotmail box.
dvtimes
12-12-05, 06:37 PM
I dont think cards will prevent one person wanting to do something so bad as blow up a bus or tube, Israle is living proof of this as they continue to struggle with bombs.
They will however have lots of practical uses such as proving ID, storing your medial records, treatment history. Anything that makes it more difficult for people to pretend they are me or forge they way into the Uk is good for me.
The only concern is if people loose them, if they do then they should be flogged in public then placed in the stocks.
London was under worse threat when the IRA did bomb us on a regular basis this current terror feels more like a cold war type situation.
Im no expert though they do say abuse stems from abuse, then to treat this we have to develop a more civilised nation, teach young people values and to respect elders.
The simple option is for hospitals and doctors share the data. I hate to think that if I was in a car crash and the card flew out of my pocket and got lost, they would not know my medical history. Its simple to have those in the medical service to have access to the data base.
I still fail to see any worthwile use.
The guy that don't want to vote, thats great, another lazy sod who can't be bothered - we have estates full of people like that.
Who is this "guy" who can't be bothered to vote?
NumptyNuts
12-12-05, 06:42 PM
Who is this "guy" who can't be bothered to vote?
theres a few on here :cry:
NumptyNuts
12-12-05, 06:50 PM
If it were up to me, churches and other places of worship would be demolished or put to other uses, such as converted into flats or used as community halls.
http://www.lastrefuge.co.uk/images/html/aerials_UK_historical_sites/cathedrals/images/AWDS_Cathedral31.jpg
I agree with using them but converting something like this into flats or flattening it would be a massive step backwards for mankind - this is what we have in our town, if this was used as a place to give talks to people it can only inspire you.
mellenig
12-12-05, 07:06 PM
http://www.lastrefuge.co.uk/images/html/aerials_UK_historical_sites/cathedrals/images/AWDS_Cathedral31.jpg
I agree with using them but converting something like this into flats or flattening it would be a massive step backwards for mankind - this is what we have in our town, if this was used as a place to give talks to people it can only inspire you.
Went to York at the weekend and they have converted a church their into a pub. Im not church goer (weddings and funerals only) but i thought it was wrong to turn a church into a pub. They still had one of the plaques that people in the past had paid for putting up, "killed in the great war etc" which I thought was quite sad.
Still it was a nice pint and there was plenty of birds to oggle :eyebrows:
Yeah but you don't really think people should be forced to go to church, right? You do realize not everyone is Christian, or even Anglican?
And I don't know how this is in the UK, or how it started there, but both "benefits" (welfare and the like) and social security (retirement cash) are for the benefit of large corporations, as they ensure that there will always be a reasonably stable market of consumers regardless of the economy. No matter what happens- large American companies will always be able to count on some people being able to afford their products. It has the added benefit of making people happy (not you I guess), but the actual purpose is to guarantee a certain level of revenue for the companies who can play at that level.
Again I have no idea if that's how it is in the UK, and I guess American economics aren't taught over there unless you specifically want to take it, but that is why it happens here.
So if it is similar like I suspect, and you could not care less about the poor, find comfort in the fact that who really benefits most from it are large corporations whose products get bought by people who would not otherwise have had that money.
The ID card thing is just silly though...but an unfortunate reality that will happen sooner than most expect IMO.
NumptyNuts
12-12-05, 07:16 PM
Went to York at the weekend and they have converted a church their into a pub. Im not church goer (weddings and funerals only) but i thought it was wrong to turn a church into a pub. They still had one of the plaques that people in the past had paid for putting up, "killed in the great war etc" which I thought was quite sad.
Still it was a nice pint and there was plenty of birds to oggle :eyebrows:
Kind of sad but good in way, people tend to share their views in pub and pubs can often act like a centre point for communities.
ID cards will solve nothing. The only people who will have ones that are not forged are the poor tax payer who will pay for it.
They recon the cost will be about £250 per every person. We all know wthat will be an under estimate. so thats 60million people times £250.
I cant help but think, they money could be put elsewhere
Kind of sad but good in way, people tend to share their views in pub and pubs can often act like a centre point for communities.
Your thinking of Corantaion street or Eastenders
Y'know something Paul - I used to think you were a reasonable bloke - quite a nice bloke even. Now I think you're an illiterate and uneducated cunt.
NumptyNuts
12-12-05, 08:21 PM
Y'know something Paul - I used to think you were a reasonable bloke - quite a nice bloke even. Now I think you're an illiterate and uneducated cunt.
illiterate - thats true
uneducated - thats true
cunt - a step up from nazi
I dont know anything about you to form an opion though I think you have made yourself clear.
ID cards are the best idea this god forsaken country has ever proposed and not followed through but you wouldnt be able to see that, if you watch the news or are an active person in your real community then maybe just maybe you can see why they are needed.
again you do not give one single reason why they are needed or good. so that is point 1 checked with no backup.
Benefit cap - simple if you are under 25 and never had a job you get nothing, and I mean nothing, given this day and age theres no excuse not to be working or at the very least retraining to forfill the needs that are presented to you. If someone whos not even 16 has a baby give them nothing, why should we, their parents can look after them why should they given perks for being dumb.
how do you guarantee someone who didn't have a job simply didn't get one? how do you handle ill and disabled in your wonderful scheme?
and you still didn't explain how you cap them, by what rules and standards.
point 2 checked as not answered.
Beleif system, never proposed one, churches are buildings, they were built as places of worship - communities need to get back to using them, Ive said this before you will no doubt be enjoying christmas, so you must have some beleifs.
you stated you would send everyone to the churches, that violates
a) freedom of choice
b) freedom of religion
and therefor counts as fascist (we will need that detail later on, stay with me ;) )
BTW, just because you chose to follow a belief system, you shouldn't make their prime mistake and assume the same for others.
People claiming benefit, unless you have done this or no people who do this its hard to see just how people play and steal from the central funds our taxes fund. The reason we pay benefits to certain sections of our community is done so to help reduce crime, its it in some cases proctection money.
this comes in where now? another underhand attack on the disabled?
BTW to call me a nazi is a little extreme its like me calling you a sheep
i don't bah, while you make one fascist statement after the other, so stop whining and making wrong comparisons (see, told you the point about fascists would come in later, here it is)
8 years ago I was homeless, I slept on pallets and nothing to my name, the state offered me all kinds of nice things, flats, money you name it even a clothing allowence.
I declined this help and did something which seems to alude most young people in similar situations within UK that is get a job and rent somewhere to live.
that's a tragedy, well done for getting out of this without anyone's help.
oh wait, you did have help, someone gave you a job. and someone who gave you a place you could afford.
considering your father opened shops in North London, one has to wonder how you got into your bad situation to begin with.
People who I deal with in the real world in shops banks etc comment on how I am polite and think of others, in fact even through my entire school years despite failing teachers felt the same way about me. We as a household recycle and support our local community and entertain exchange students from Japan.
so you come online and act all arsehole like? hiding behind a screen name?
You calling me a nazi reminded me of a time when a chap from the local shop had told my father I had shouted racial abuse at him. My father took a belt to me with out asking questions - he was fuming and who'd blame him -, I was then dragged to the shop for the guy to turn around and say no it was not him, he was not even there.
yeah Paul, tough, in this case it's out in the open, all your fascists comments.
It's even more startling that you have not even given an input as to why parking space are allocated in the way they are. Maybe you have first hand experience of spaces that have been put in the wrong place.
what does parking space have to do with this now?
The guy that don't want to vote, thats great, another lazy sod who can't be bothered - we have estates full of people like that.
see, yet another fascist comment of yours. everyone not doing things the way they please you is accused and attacked by you. why is that? have a problem with freedom, Nazi?
i'm thick-explain why ID cards are needed?
no answer, Paul?
theres a few on here :cry:
name them.
I agree with using them but converting something like this into flats or flattening it would be a massive step backwards for mankind
why?
daveydude
12-13-05, 12:42 AM
I'm pissed. Hello everyone. God is just pretend.
daveydude
12-13-05, 12:46 AM
I'm sure pauls post count hit 666 in this thrtead. maybe there is something to all this religion bollocks after all
NumptyNuts
12-13-05, 08:50 AM
Nazi?
Coll if you continue to address me as a nazi I will start to know you as Spastic -
NumptyNuts
12-13-05, 08:53 AM
I'm sure pauls post count hit 666 in this thrtead. maybe there is something to all this religion bollocks after all
Nah - mate HF has made his living from going round smahing people up on boards be little people and just been a rude person.
I'm enjoying getting his attention I know what his sore points are so hes easy to annoy and torment which is making this great fun for me.
HF you never did own up to being a board cross dresser theres been no sign of fluffy things since you showed up again. But then again I could just be a blind nazi......
daveydude
12-13-05, 09:27 AM
Nah - mate HF has made his living from going round smahing people up on boards be little people and just been a rude person.
I'm enjoying getting his attention I know what his sore points are so hes easy to annoy and torment which is making this great fun for me.
I don't think he's trying to smash you up man, he's just interested in your politics and wants you to justify some stuff you've said. Can't really see how he makes a living doing that.
I very much doubt you're annoying or tormenting him though, you might need to try harder there ;)
NumptyNuts
12-13-05, 09:33 AM
I don't think he's trying to smash you up man, he's just interested in your politics and wants you to justify some stuff you've said. Can't really see how he makes a living doing that.
I very much doubt you're annoying or tormenting him though, you might need to try harder there ;)
:cheers2:
Coll if you continue to address me as a nazi I will start to know you as Spastic -
to deliver yet another piece of evidence of your despite towards the disabled on top of your continued fascist statements that make it obvious you are a Nazi? please go on. :)
Nah - mate HF has made his living from going round smahing people up on boards be little people and just been a rude person.
I'm enjoying getting his attention I know what his sore points are so hes easy to annoy and torment which is making this great fun for me.
HF you never did own up to being a board cross dresser theres been no sign of fluffy things since you showed up again. But then again I could just be a blind nazi......
so you are not answering the simple questions then, Nazi. good, point proved. :)
NumptyNuts
12-13-05, 11:19 PM
so you are not answering the simple questions then, Nazi. good, point proved. :)
errrrr joey!
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