Investments

[Jase]

Has anyone got any good investment tips? I have got about 40k I HAVE to invest before I blow the fucking lot - all sensible suggestions gratefully received :)

[-HF]

Allan's mood piece movies?

[xcite-tv]

Stock markets good now
but stay away from Property anywhere

do you produce content? If so make a series of 6 episodes of something good
hard/soft and a documentary
that will cost you about £40k and I can double your investment will take 5-6 weeks effort though

[SGS]

Stock markets good now
but stay away from Property anywhere

do you produce content? If so make a series of 6 episodes of something good
hard/soft and a documentary
that will cost you about £40k and I can double your investment will take 5-6 weeks effort though

Yes I agree. £40k on shooting content is the best by far at the moment. Or we would all be estate agents again. :)

[gawdi]

Why not back DV making his next blockbuster???
Now what do you do with the remaining 39.99k??

[videokim]

Hi

Use the interest from any pennies you have making movies because investing the total amount would be madness in an unsteady British porn industry.
advertising the finished product is where the money is better spent because it don't matter if you spend £150 or 40.000 its the content that sells at the end of the day.
Start with lots of small projects as its safer than losing the lot on one failed movie.
Just out of curiosity how many producers could afford £40,000 on a series on films ? i must be doing something wrong somewhere.

Kim xxx

Kims Amateurs (http://www.kims-amateurs.com)

[dvtimes]

Buy a classic car. They often gain value.

Or if you wanted to take a risk, pay somone to do a real cool flash film or game, and put it on a site to let people waych it free. With luck it will get tons of hits, and if you place a banner on it, you may make good cash. I am thinking of such as www.beer.com (http://www.beer.com/) site.

http://www.beer.com/beer.com-Content_C-section_id-1126642898596_vb.html

[dvtimes]

One idea I had was (if I had the cash) to get somone to make a small programe that you could give away free on your site. Nothing fancy, somthing simple that people would find usfull.

It does not need to even be for your pc/mac, but say for your pda or even mobile phone (as some can run programes).


It could carry an advert, or somthing.

One program that I have seen, which you could do a free version of, would be a remote controll for your phone or pda. I have only seen paid versioms. But just think of all the people that would want a free version. AsI say, they could carry a paid advert.

[videokim]

I agree DV it pays sometimes to give the public something free. We have always had a free site with a phone number so people can ring me for a chat & to know i'm real.
Keep in with the public & give them something back as a thankyou.

Kim xxx

[dvtimes]

People tell others of good (free) sites.

Even we do. I think we have all posted a link to a free flash game or somthing.

A site coould within 24 hours have been told to millions of people. I remember Jib Jab site got on mainstreen news (in the usa), they got millions of hits in one day.

Its why I think any site that you have to pay to join (aport from porn) is a dead duck idea. Much better to give a free service and get the money back on advertising.

As I say, www.beer.com has that amazing flash film that you can type in a comand and the girl will (may) do what you say. That site has grown HUGE, as people tell each other of it.

[SGS]

Hi

Use the interest from any pennies you have making movies because investing the total amount would be madness in an unsteady British porn industry.
advertising the finished product is where the money is better spent because it don't matter if you spend £150 or 40.000 its the content that sells at the end of the day.
Start with lots of small projects as its safer than losing the lot on one failed movie.
Just out of curiosity how many producers could afford £40,000 on a series on films ? i must be doing something wrong somewhere.

Kim xxx

Kims Amateurs (http://www.kims-amateurs.com)

Unsteady British porn industry? The only unsteadiness is for those that completely missed the online business and blindly carried on beating the dead horse of the DVD side relentlessly. Do you have any idea at all how much money a successful site turns over annually?

[Shandy McAndy]

Unsteady British porn industry? The only unsteadiness is for those that completely missed the online business and blindly carried on beating the dead horse of the DVD side relentlessly. Do you have any idea at all how much money a successful site turns over annually?

How much :eyebrows:

[SGS]

Actually Kim I really shouldn’t have worded my earlier post like that and I meant you no disrespect at all. Had a really superb Vindaloo last night and a little too much wine… :cry:

What I really should have said is that I don’t see any unsteadiness in the UK adult business and *most* online companies have seen steady and solid growth over the last five years. If you are just making pennies from your site then please do ask some of the excellent people here if they can steer you in the right direction. You look great and the “UK amateur” niche of your site is bang on the money as far as what the paying punter will go for right now.

If you mean that you are making pennies from DVD sales then I agree and I would *never* advise anyone to invest money in shooting content to produce DVDs unless you are a car boot pirate or in the coffee coaster business.

[Mattyboy]

Actually Kim I really shouldn’t have worded my earlier post like that and I meant you no disrespect at all. Had a really superb Vindaloo last night and a little too much wine… :cry:

What I really should have said is that I don’t see any unsteadiness in the UK adult business and *most* online companies have seen steady and solid growth over the last five years. If you are just making pennies from your site then please do ask some of the excellent people here if they can steer you in the right direction. You look great and the “UK amateur” niche of your site is bang on the money as far as what the paying punter will go for right now.

If you mean that you are making pennies from DVD sales then I agree and I would *never* advise anyone to invest money in shooting content to produce DVDs unless you are a car boot pirate or in the coffee coaster business.


Can i just make a point that Kim is making more than a few pennies from her site :)

[SGS]

Can i just make a point that Kim is making more than a few pennies from her site :)

She has lovely big boobies so I am not at all surprised. :eyebrows:

[JT]

Stock markets good now
but stay away from Property anywhere


Out of interest, why stay away from property?

[videokim]

Hi

This is a good site to chat on as the people seem very friendly, thanks Matt for pointing out about my wording of 'pennies'.
It obvious some don't know of us which is nice as we like to keep a back seat in the industry, we try to give a bit of advice (after 9yrs in the business) to new producers that want to throw mud at the wall hoping some will stick.
This is why we say start small, don't run walk & if your still in the business 5yrs down the line you can say you've made a mark if not it's not the right job for you.

Kim xxx

Kims Amateurs (http://www.kims-amateurs.com)

[xcite-tv]

Hi

Use the interest from any pennies you have making movies because investing the total amount would be madness in an unsteady British porn industry.
advertising the finished product is where the money is better spent because it don't matter if you spend £150 or 40.000 its the content that sells at the end of the day.
Start with lots of small projects as its safer than losing the lot on one failed movie.
Just out of curiosity how many producers could afford £40,000 on a series on films ? i must be doing something wrong somewhere.

Kim xxx

Kims Amateurs (http://www.kims-amateurs.com)

1, When did the UK porn industry become unsteady????
2, If you produce for top people a series can cost £40k +++ easily. ROI is easily twice that, if sold to the right people.
3, if you think it doesnt matter what you spend on a production that explains answer 1.

[xcite-tv]

Out of interest, why stay away from property?

There will be minimum growth in this market for 5 years

I have a friend who is a billionare in property, been listening to him for 15 years
he told me to buy in Chiswick in 92 Hackney in 95 Hoxton area in 99
Liverpool in 2000 and to sell in West London 3 years ago
and he said leave property alone for 5 years at least except a few specialised areas

We were looking at a 5 story development together in Soho in 2001 for £1.6m
and were due to sign on Sept 14th 2001, then two planes hit the WTC and he pulled out.
bit of a shame as it didnt have the effect he thought, but he does generally know his stuff

[videokim]

Touchy Touchy xcite-tv i haven't heard of you so your not that important, my pub film won me a B.A.F.I.A. & became a cult british movie seen by most & it cost me about £250 so don't i'll advise people on that £40,000 crap because it don't matter our glossy it is you have to sell the thing.
I see you have brilliant people skills with the attitude you display on here.

Kim

[xcite-tv]

Touchy Touchy xcite-tv i haven't heard of you so your not that important, my pub film won me a B.A.F.I.A. & became a cult british movie seen by most & it cost me about £250 so don't i'll advise people on that £40,000 crap because it don't matter our glossy it is you have to sell the thing.
I see you have brilliant people skills with the attitude you display on here.

Kim

I didnt say anything in this thread with attitude....no offence was meant

I advised investing £40k in making a good Adult series and that it could be sold for double that....I know because thats what we do. its NOT ill advice or crap

You haven't heard of us......good

I dont consider us to be important either so again....your right.

If you made something for £250 and sold it ..well done, and congratulations on the award..

Again, your right, it matters not how glossy something is, it still has to sell.
And everyone here will agree, you can never get enough sales but what we do makes us a very nice living so we are happy

And thank you for the comment on people skills, part of my career to date has been at director level at a PLC with 250 staff under my direct control..They didn't complain :)

[Mattyboy]

I'm not taking any sides here (and i mean that :) )but i know Kims Essex pub film did VERY well.
For the small budget she had and a great but simple idea and for the type of market she was targetting it worked *extremly* well. Sure, the national newspaper coverage helped at the time but this was a rare classic example of making the right product at the right time for the right audience and hats off to John and Kim.
If Kim had a budget of even 5k for this movie, it couldn't have been any better and perhaps some of the magic would have been lost in the proccess.
It just goes to go to show that ploughing money into a project won't necessary make it a better seller. Often the simple and direct approach pays dividends in the long term.

[xcite-tv]

I'm not taking any sides here (and i mean that :) )but i know Kims Essex pub film did VERY well.
For the small budget she had and a great but simple idea and for the type of market she was targetting it worked *extremly* well. Sure, the national newspaper coverage helped at the time but this was a rare classic example of making the right product at the right time for the right audience and hats off to John and Kim.
If Kim had a budget of even 5k for this movie, it couldn't have been any better and perhaps some of the magic would have been lost in the proccess.
It just goes to go to show that ploughing money into a project won't necessary make it a better seller. Often the simple and direct approach pays dividends in the long term.

Hey there are no sides so no worries.
But the thread asked for a good way to invest £40K and making a good series of 6-7 episodes (hard and soft) with a documentary (the making of) would cost around that and bring a ROI of around 100% If sold as a whole
Thats not a bad return for 5-6 weeks

I never said it would sell better than anything else ( as its sold on as a whole anyway its not our worry how it sells) and we certainly dont spend that on our website content production Its not the market i was talking about..

[cock-a-leekie]

Ever thought about the jewellery market?

Find yourself a cheap Indian supplier that can supply UK orientated goods (not gold elephants etc.) and set up an online jewellers.

I reckon you could make a mint. :cheers2:

[slaxxx]

could invest in premium .com's

http://www.greatdomains.com
http://www.buydomains.com

...expensive, but in your price range. Takes a lot of homework to find people selling cheaper than 4-5 years of income.

[morefodder]

Our beer fridge at work is accepting donations http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/p1csh05t/beer2.gif

[nekrom]

I'd say same as I do which is investing in moderate to high risk managed investment funds. Primarily made up of stocks, bonds and bank fund investments. Get some snapperhead at the bank to manage it for you and your laughing. Atm my one is generating 12-25% return and compounding as well.

-N

[SGS]

I'd say same as I do which is investing in moderate to high risk managed investment funds. Primarily made up of stocks, bonds and bank fund investments. Get some snapperhead at the bank to manage it for you and your laughing. Atm my one is generating 12-25% return and compounding as well.

-N

Good solid advice. I am not too confident in the UK stock market right at the moment and bonds over here have been pretty poor on return for the last few years but with a *good* investment manager he should still be able to make your money work still.

For the first time in many years we only hold quite a relitively small amount shares as we sold a lot a few weeks back when we bought this house and depending what happens between now and April with the market hovering at the 5500 mark I am not sure if we will even take up our ISA allowment this year. But a lot can happen between now and April.