an idea for the dragens den thing.

[dvtimes]

are we doing this yet?

anyway this is my sugestion, regarding my post (http://www.beerandbollocks.com/forum/showthread.php?p=228131&posted=1#post228131).

it gave me the idea of how about a co operatve porn site.

ie we all put somthing towards it, ie those who shoot content, put forward a set or two each month.

those good at desigh, help desighn the site and fhg and so on.

those such as geezer do what they are best at, and thats moan about the site.

if say 5 people work on it, hen any profit is split 5 way.

just a thought before i go to bed.

[-HF]

explain in more detail, please.

[dvtimes]

explain in more detail, please.

i thought it was rather simple.

we would all do a small bit on/for the site.

ie the site would be exclusive.

basicly it could run like some of those big sites that have 8 or so full time photographers shooting, and a team of people working on it. often these sites are popular and so make a lot of cash.

my idea would be that x amount of us would own a persentage. ie, 8 of us would own 1/8th, and we would agree to do so much each week on the site.

but you could also have investors.

what they could do is provide say money to get exclusive models on contract. ie, thus the site would be able to boast esclusive models.

as i say just an idea before i go to bed.

[-HF]

my idea would be that x amount of us would own a persentage. ie, 8 of us would own 1/8th, and we would agree to do so much each week on the site.

so each of the 8 would own 12.5% and bring only as much into the project as their share is worth, as clearly no one would contribute more than their share is, they'd be better off doing their own thing and outsource parts they aren't skilled enough at themselves.

that put's you into a rather odd position.

who is to rate how much input of a partner equals 12.5%? what rates are you using on design work, on hosting, on rights to content, on back office tasks (someone has to calculate the actual profit and split it all to everyone's satisfaction)

who is judging the design, do all 8 have to get a hard on or just 50% plus 1 vote?

whose call is it when it comes to letting in new partners, thus slashing the 12.5% by 20% down to 10% if you were to take on 2 new partners?

are you going to refund partners, if you cock up your part and lose the project money? afterall, they still did their share. will you have insurance or hand over a bank guarantee, to make sure your partners aren't losing out if you go bust or cock up?

i will have some more questions once you answered these. :P

[dvtimes]

so each of the 8 would own 12.5% and bring only as much into the project as their share is worth, as clearly no one would contribute more than their share is, they'd be better off doing their own thing and outsource parts they aren't skilled enough at themselves.

the point being that its far easer to have many hands working on somthing than just one person.


who is to rate how much input of a partner equals 12.5%? what rates are you using on design work, on hosting, on rights to content, on back office tasks (someone has to calculate the actual profit and split it all to everyone's satisfaction)

as i stated in the above, this would be agreed before hand. i would suspect people would put in more than they agreed simply as they would want to make things work, rather than fail.


who is judging the design, do all 8 have to get a hard on or just 50% plus 1 vote?

not sure what you mean. i would argue if your taking the content then you would leave it up to the designers and vice versa.

whose call is it when it comes to letting in new partners, thus slashing the 12.5% by 20% down to 10% if you were to take on 2 new partners?

i would suspect that the original partners would be the owners. however if one partner left or failed to do his duties and thus kicked out then his share would be spread to the others.

are you going to refund partners, if you cock up your part and lose the project money? afterall, they still did their share. will you have insurance or hand over a bank guarantee, to make sure your partners aren't losing out if you go bust or cock up?

you would be kicked out. i fail to see how one could cock up. ie a photographer would only cock up by not taking pics, and as i would suspect there would be more than one person, this would not be a problem.

i will have some more questions once you answered these.

bring them on. hopfully they will be a bit harder and much better thought out.

[dvtimes]

look it was a thought.

balls to you all.

i am off to bed.

its late.

[-HF]

the point being that its far easer to have many hands working on somthing than just one person.
you clearly have never worked in or managed a team.


as i stated in the above, this would be agreed before hand.
where did you define standards? please quote where you did, i clearly missed it.


i would suspect people would put in more than they agreed simply as they would want to make things work, rather than fail.
if you engage in a deal and contribute more than your share is worth, you are, quite frankly, an idiot and should go work for someone on a salary instead.

explain in a reasonable amount of detail why you, no let's say anyone, we know why you would, explain why anyone should contribute more than they would get back from it, especially when they can do the same on their own and hold a higher stake up to 100%, depending on how much outsourcing they'd have to do.


not sure what you mean. i would argue if your taking the content then you would leave it up to the designers and vice versa.

let me put it really simple for you: who decides if the design put forward by the design partner is pretty pretty or shitty shitty?


i would suspect that the original partners would be the owners.
so you cannot have investors aside from the 8 original partners now, which would contradict your previous suggestion (unless it was on of those statements again where you posted one thing and meant another, please clarify)?

ok, so no new partners, what you gonna do if someone drops out, say the content provider cannot be arsed anymore. are you replacing them or will the site die? if you do replace them, what share is the new partner going to have? mind they didn't provide content until now, so surely they cannot hold a share of that bit.


you would be kicked out.

really. so how does kicking out the partner who cocked up pay the other partners for losses they aren't responsible for?

you really haven't thought this through at all. calling this blink of an imagination you had an idea is a tad mouthy already.


bring them on. hopfully they will be a bit harder and much better thought out.
so far you fail to answer the easy questions, big boy.

[gawdi]

are we doing this yet?

anyway this is my sugestion, regarding my post (http://www.beerandbollocks.com/forum/showthread.php?p=228131&posted=1#post228131).

it gave me the idea of how about a co operatve porn site.

ie we all put somthing towards it, ie those who shoot content, put forward a set or two each month.

those good at desigh, help desighn the site and fhg and so on.

those such as geezer do what they are best at, and thats moan about the site.

if say 5 people work on it, hen any profit is split 5 way.

just a thought before i go to bed.

Really, what your saying is you want 4 other webmasters to jump into bed with you....

[JT]

No disrespect meant, but if you can't even grasp how to enter the competition, how on earth do you think you would get any backers?


1. Anyone who wants to enter, must firstly send me (the independant judge and general prefect and monitor) their own idea to put in front of the dragons.

I will make up a fake nick. Contestant 1, Contestant 2 or some such thing. You will keep it a secret who you are. Only I will know who you are. You will then send me the completed post and I will make a new thread telling the dragons what you want to do,.........

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so each of the 8 would own 12.5% and bring only as much into the project as their share is worth, as clearly no one would contribute more than their share is, they'd be better off doing their own thing and outsource parts they aren't skilled enough at themselves.

that put's you into a rather odd position.

who is to rate how much input of a partner equals 12.5%? what rates are you using on design work, on hosting, on rights to content, on back office tasks (someone has to calculate the actual profit and split it all to everyone's satisfaction)

who is judging the design, do all 8 have to get a hard on or just 50% plus 1 vote?

whose call is it when it comes to letting in new partners, thus slashing the 12.5% by 20% down to 10% if you were to take on 2 new partners?

are you going to refund partners, if you cock up your part and lose the project money? afterall, they still did their share. will you have insurance or hand over a bank guarantee, to make sure your partners aren't losing out if you go bust or cock up?

i will have some more questions once you answered these. :P

Go Theo :cheer:

[mOBSCENE]

No disrespect meant, but if you can't even grasp how to enter the competition, how on earth do you think you would get any backers?

Go Duncan :cheer:

[Cardinal_Sin]

No disrespect meant, but if you can't even grasp how to enter the competition, how on earth do you think you would get any backers?

Are the rules written in the Yorkshire language?