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Got it the other day, so I now have those backup things a lot of you here speak about.
I have three :P
What I do is always have a full back up in a fire proof safe and two running on my main puter, that if I go away anywhere I put in the safe as well.
Having back ups is something you never need all the time you have them, as soon as you don't you need them
Yeah, but it's fucking fun gambling, especially when you hear the first clicks on the internal drive and think 'I must do a backup of that soon'. I haven't won yet from 3 that went, mind.
having lost a load of data due to NOT having a backup (3 months work) I now use a terrastation that has an internal backup that runs every hour and an external HD that backs up every night - I'm not going to get caught out again like that
Yeah, but it's fucking fun gambling, especially when you hear the first clicks on the internal drive and think 'I must do a backup of that soon'. I haven't won yet from 3 that went, mind.
lol
True story
In March I did a long shoot, 3 days of pictures, when I came home I put it all on my main puter, but because I was away, my HD's were in the safe, I could't be arsed to get them out, this was on the Sunday. I would do that in the morning. When I turned on my puter on the Monday morning, nothing, it had died. Dead as a dodo. First I got the power changed, nothing still dead, phoned up a bloke who came out to me and said it was either the hard drive or the motherboard. It turned out to be the mother board, but I was shitting it
dvtimes
07-31-08, 09:11 AM
I use standered hardrives but in an internal box.
i back the sites to one drive, and the films to other drives. once full i just buy a new drive. these days they are cheap.
i also backup all the pic sets to dvd.
and the dedicated server has soposed to have some sort of extra backup drive, so if it went down it suposed to have a back up every few hours, so it saves me having to upload again.
in fact i keep nothing on my pc harddrive, so if it dies, i loose nothing.
Theres no excuse for not backing up onto external HDD - they are as cheap as chips now.....
You can pick up a western Digital 1Tb external for c £100 now..
There's every excuse: laziness, daring,
OK, so there's 2 excuses.
fwiw mine was a maxtor 750Gb that I only got as it was in tesco, and I walked past it to get some coffee. About £85 or so.
There's every excuse: laziness, daring,
OK, so there's 2 excuses.
fwiw mine was a maxtor 750Gb that I only got as it was in tesco, and I walked past it to get some coffee. About £85 or so.
Laziness I can understand..............
Daring I cant understand............
Daring I cant understand............
You've never lived ;)
Unless you have offsite back up also, you are not even slightly backed up.
Unless you have offsite back up also, you are not even slightly backed up.
Not even a teensy weensy tiny little bit?
Not even a teensy weensy tiny little bit?
OK, a teensy bit.
But, not if there is a fire or you are robbed.
:)
(or you accidentally place a very strong magnet you use for a magic trick next to your external HDD and wipe it)
(not that I can think of anyone that would do such a stupid thing)
Scotty.T
07-31-08, 10:12 AM
Unless you have offsite back up also, you are not even slightly backed up.
I have semi-offsite backup, does that count? :)
I have semi-offsite backup, does that count? :)
You have a semi that is backed up offsite?
Groovy.
Mozy is a good online back up I use.
Scotty.T
07-31-08, 10:16 AM
You have a semi that is backed up offsite?
Yeah, just in case I ever need it in a hurry :)
How often do you backup or online stuff offsite though?
I feel that I don't do it as frequently as I should but my connection makes it kind a painful too. Maybe I should also look into some online backup thingies.
How often do you backup or online stuff offsite though?
I feel that I don't do it as frequently as I should but my connection makes it kind a painful too. Maybe I should also look into some online backup thingies.
I back up hourly on one HDD, and do a daily bootable mirror on another. I have one essentials folder that I use the online back up for, at 3am every day.
(The online uses incremental backup so you only upload the changes, it doesn't take long)
I use mozy.com
Willie_Ekkerslike
07-31-08, 10:50 AM
What external HDD's do you all favour at the mo' ?
Back end of last year I picked up a couple of WD 500Gb My Book drives for 70 quid each. They very chunky so not ideal so not what I want to use in the safe or take off-site. But, they are more than good enough for local / short term backing up.
What external HDD's do you all favour at the mo' ?
Back end of last year I picked up a couple of WD 500Gb My Book drives for 70 quid each. They very chunky so not ideal so not what I want to use in the safe or take off-site. But, they are more than good enough for local / short term backing up.
Western Digital or Seagate. NOTHING ELSE. EVER.
What external HDD's do you all favour at the mo' ?
Back end of last year I picked up a couple of WD 500Gb My Book drives for 70 quid each. They very chunky so not ideal so not what I want to use in the safe or take off-site. But, they are more than good enough for local / short term backing up.
Western Digital here too............ when I had to send my server disk to a recovery company in the States they only recommend Western Digital.......
Firesafes are a problem though - I have a Chubb fire cooler 1100. It looks big, but when u open it up, theres only room for 64 DV tapes!!!
I have a Chubb fire cooler 1100. It looks big, but when u open it up, theres only room for 64 DV tapes!!!
Can one man lift it on his own?
Just the fireproof ones I have seen wouldn't be big enough to stop a burgler nicking it.
Damn :( I'm not even slightly backed up :(
Can one man lift it on his own?
Just the fireproof ones I have seen wouldn't be big enough to stop a burgler nicking it.
Put them into a bigger safe, as a backup, innit.
Put them into a bigger safe, as a backup, innit.
HEHEHEH
Damn :( I'm not even slightly backed up :(
You only need to lose all your data once to become paranoid about back ups.
You only need to lose all your data once to become paranoid about back ups.
Took me 3 goes lol.
Took me 3 goes lol.
hardcore!
I don't muck about mate. Well I do actually. Quite a lot. Almost all the time in fact.
Willie_Ekkerslike
07-31-08, 11:31 AM
Took me 3 goes lol.
Are you taking bets as to when the 4th will be?
Willie_Ekkerslike
07-31-08, 11:33 AM
Can one man lift it on his own?
Just the fireproof ones I have seen wouldn't be big enough to stop a burgler nicking it.
Yes they can be lifted by one guy, but some you can screw to the floor / wall / shelf to secure them.
Hmmm sounds like it could become a new fetish !!
Yes they can be lifted by one guy, but some you can screw to the floor / wall / shelf to secure them.
Yeah that would work thanks to the 1986 legislation banning burglers from being able to buy, rent or borrow a screwdriver.
Good thinking.
Are you taking bets as to when the 4th will be?
No, that would be the layer's job, not the backer's. Give me a price :)
The thing is what if the HDD fails, so you need to back that up as well, but what if that one fails, so you'll need to back that up as well, but what if...
Scotty.T
07-31-08, 11:37 AM
WD MyBook's here too. 2 x 1TB with one kept offsite. I only actually swap them around every 3-4 days at best though.
Yeah that would work thanks to the 1986 legislation banning burglers from being able to buy, rent or borrow a screwdriver.
Good thinking.
That was an amendment to the 1968 burglary act. Just a heads-up :)
WD MyBook's here too. 2 x 1TB with one kept offsite. I only actually swap them around every 3-4 days at best though.
I only do any work about once a fortnight, so that'd be severe overkill for me.
The thing is what if the HDD fails, so you need to back that up as well, but what if that one fails, so you'll need to back that up as well, but what if...
It's called multiple redundancy.
Scotty.T
07-31-08, 11:41 AM
I only do any work about once a fortnight, so that'd be severe overkill for me.
Well, I am about the same actually :) But when you actually configure them for RAID they only have 500GB capacity and I only really picked that spec cos they had Gigabit Ethernet connections for the speed.
Willie_Ekkerslike
07-31-08, 11:41 AM
Yeah that would work thanks to the 1986 legislation banning burglers from being able to buy, rent or borrow a screwdriver.
Good thinking.
So when they buy the screwdriver, is the code to the safe on the screwdriver handle so they can get access to the screw heads?
Or are you gary in disguise?
Willie_Ekkerslike
07-31-08, 11:43 AM
WD MyBook's here too. 2 x 1TB with one kept offsite. I only actually swap them around every 3-4 days at best though.
You'd give the heads up with the 1Tb ones? I'm always a bit wary when there's a bit of a size hike! Like to wait until they're well bedded in.
Yeah that would work thanks to the 1986 legislation banning burglers from being able to buy, rent or borrow a screwdriver.
Good thinking.
Mine is so heavy, burgler would sue me for doing his back in whilst trying to lift it.......
I have put stickers on saying Please Mr Burgler dont nick this... theres no money in it........... but they cant read so whats the point
You'd give the heads up with the 1Tb ones? I'm always a bit wary when there's a bit of a size hike! Like to wait until they're well bedded in.
Thats why u have 2...
Well, I am about the same actually :) But when you actually configure them for RAID they only have 500GB capacity and I only really picked that spec cos they had Gigabit Ethernet connections for the speed.
That sounds really good :)
Willie_Ekkerslike
07-31-08, 11:50 AM
Thats why u have 2...
Nah, got 2 because I thought they were a damn good price
Scotty.T
07-31-08, 11:51 AM
You'd give the heads up with the 1Tb ones? I'm always a bit wary when there's a bit of a size hike! Like to wait until they're well bedded in.
Not sure what you mean by 'heads up'. Is that a technical term or you just mean recommend? :)
If recommend, then yes. Had them for well over a year and no problems. The built in cooling fan is noisy as fuck though. I added external cooling for them with silent fans and the internal fan never kicks in now.
So when they buy the screwdriver, is the code to the safe on the screwdriver handle so they can get access to the screw heads?
No you are right. No one can open a safe. Silly old me!
http://technofart.com/index.php/2007/01/20/world-safecracking-champion-takes-down-bank-vault-in-5-minutes-19-seconds-video/
If you have stuff that is irreplaceable and the only place you have that backed up is in the same location as the masters, in your house, you are asking for trouble. IMHO.
Willie_Ekkerslike
07-31-08, 11:55 AM
No you are right. No one can open a safe. Silly old me!
http://technofart.com/index.php/2007/01/20/world-safecracking-champion-takes-down-bank-vault-in-5-minutes-19-seconds-video/
If you have stuff that is irreplaceable and the only place you have that backed up is in the same location as the masters, in your house, you are asking for trouble. IMHO.
OK so you've got a paddy on cuz my pier's hotter than yours !!
OK so you've got a paddy on cuz my pier's hotter than yours !!
HEHEH.
:)
I don't give a shit if you lose all your stuff. But thinking it is safe onsite in a safe is wrong.
:D
Willie_Ekkerslike
07-31-08, 11:57 AM
Not sure what you mean by 'heads up'. Is that a technical term or you just mean recommend? :)
If recommend, then yes. Had them for well over a year and no problems. The built in cooling fan is noisy as fuck though. I added external cooling for them with silent fans and the internal fan never kicks in now.
The only issue I have with the 'My Books' is the size of them. They must be about twice the width of most most external HDD's :(
Willie_Ekkerslike
07-31-08, 12:00 PM
HEHEH.
:)
I don't give a shit if you lose all your stuff. But thinking it is safe onsite in a safe is wrong.
:D
Cool! Where in my initial post did I say that I don't use off site storage as well as a data safe at home.
Cool! Where in my initial post did I say that I don't use off site storage as well as a data safe at home.
Sorry, when I said 'you' I meant it in the generic plural.
The only issue I have with the 'My Books' is the size of them. They must be about twice the width of most most external HDD's :(
Did you know the case holes on them spell out something in morsecode?
Scotty.T
07-31-08, 12:19 PM
Did you know the case holes on them spell out something in morsecode?
Yeah... "Damian likes the..." and I can't decipher the rest :)
Yeah... "Damian likes the..." and I can't decipher the rest :)
heheheh
No really though, it IS morse code.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Digital_My_Book
I think that's kinda cool. But I am a geek.
Scotty.T
07-31-08, 12:21 PM
See if anyone else can get it
-.. .- -- .. .- -. .-.. .. -.- . ... - .... . -.-. --- -.-. -.-
Scotty.T
07-31-08, 12:21 PM
heheheh
No really though, it IS morse code.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Digital_My_Book
I think that's kinda cool. But I am a geek.
No, I know, I saw something about it when I bought them.
See if anyone else can get it
-.. .- -- .. .- -. .-.. .. -.- . ... - .... . -.-. --- -.-. -.-
Cheers cunt, I have a load of fucking fingerprints all over my monitor now :geezer:
oh, morse code, shit, I assumed it was braille. No wonder I couldn't read it :(
Willie_Ekkerslike
07-31-08, 12:37 PM
oh, morse code, shit, I assumed it was braille. No wonder I couldn't read it :(
:takethat: :takethat:
Yeah, a double LOL
Gonna do a backup right now!
Gonna do a backup right now!
Its still backing up!!! :noway2:
Its still backing up!!! :noway2:
If you use Windows, then Norton Ghost is what you want. It will allow incremental and scheduled back ups.
If you use Windows, then Norton Ghost is what you want. It will allow incremental and scheduled back ups.
Have a look at Backup Exec System Recovery from the same guys who make Norton - trust me on this one ;)
Have a look at Backup Exec System Recovery from the same guys who make Norton - trust me on this one ;)
What he says.
Ghost used to be good, but I am a not a windows person and Jase is.
Will do :)
(only 7 Hours 14 Mins to go!!!)
You can download a 60 day eval from Symantec website and try it and see what you think before you have to buy - Ghost is a great little program for imaging but its not a backup product, System Recovery will do system backups including recovery to different hardware and will also backup data etc.
I'm using second copy here - easy to use......... full range of settings............
$30 - well pleased
See. Don't listen to me. Unless you have a Mac, then get SuperDuper as it's a great back up app.
I know I am right on that one. :D
strictlybroadband
07-31-08, 05:03 PM
I was using Norton but it was a pain... now using a free tool called Cobian.
I'd suggest that people should keep a second backup off-site for a variety of reasons... fire, and burglary are a good reason for a fireproof safe, but also things like police raids, where they'll want to take whatever's in your safe as well as your PC.
also things like police raids, where they'll want to take whatever's in your safe as well as your PC.
I hadn't thought of that at all. Good point well made.
I hadn't thought of that at all. Good point well made.
Me neither, excellent point............
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