View Full Version : Iraq. Is it about time we left the yanks to it?
Been watching the news, looks like support for the ongoing war is falling at a rapid rate in the states, with as little as 30% of Americans supporting the war.
Ive always believed we should be allies of the states, as they have been of us in the past. But at what point do we decide that its a bad lot. Rightly or wrongly should we pull out.
Would that be better for the Iraqi's or worse for them?
Yeah as allies goes it's nice to be on-side with em - but fuck me, why the cunt we're still there I've no idea.
Aint gonna get better anytime soon is it - it's fucked.
Why waste all this time "keeping the peace" when we could be doing something usefull like invading iran ...... or North Korea ... ?
Bought time we said "we'll lads, let as know how it gets on for you, we are off home.... good luck thought :thumbsup: "
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Bought time we said "we'll lads, let as know how it gets on for you, we are off home.... good luck thought :thumbsup: "
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Blair isn't gonna pull our lads out of there incase Bush gives him a chinese burn. Or something.
Cardinal_Sin
11-18-05, 11:33 PM
Been watching the news, looks like support for the ongoing war is falling at a rapid rate in the states, with as little as 30% of Americans supporting the war.
Ive always believed we should be allies of the states, as they have been of us in the past. But at what point do we decide that its a bad lot. Rightly or wrongly should we pull out.
Would that be better for the Iraqi's or worse for them?
Think back to World War two and see how the States shit on Churchill and the rest of Europe - Especially by screwing Poland by doing a deal with Stalin - American governments only do what they want purely and simply because of their sheer size - And if they can rope in the uk (or other country (ies), so much the better - But when it comes to supporting anything from any country that has supported them, they go deaf remarkably quickly.
mOBSCENE
11-18-05, 11:37 PM
There is no doubt that this occupation has led to more deaths than ever happened under Saddam H. Can't imagine them pulling out any time soon with a fuel crisis looming - total civil war in Iraq would not be good for oil prices etc.
TB will toe the Bush line, I'm sure. Of course the USA bends over backwards to meet TB half way on Kyoto etc, don't they?!
On our side of the fence on the radio yesterday "alledgely" a senior ranking official in the interm parliment thingo they've got over there told the media that in his opnion Australian troops arn't needed anymore and may as well go home.
Naturaly our Prime minister got on the blower and started to shit on about how that can't be right and we gotta stay there untill america says we can come home blah, blah, blah.
We shouldn't have gone in the first place and like America a massive portion of the population agrees with that fact.
-N
I've never supported the war, pretty much everyone I know here was against it too.
Even when approval ratings were much higher, it's not the people in this area (NY) or California...the people who support the war are the rednecks and hillbillies of Middle America and the Deep South that we look down on anyway. Yeah yeah, there are groups of hardcore Republicans everywhere, but they're not the majority by far in the Northeast and Cali.
Regarding the British being in Iraq...isn't the only reason you guys are there because you're stealing oil just like we are? Call us allies or call us brothers in crime, the end result is money for both of us, not just in controlling oil but also an economic boost as we each spend more and more on the war.
That's why I think comments about history and tradition and getting each others' backs are off target. If you accept that the war is about oil, why does it matter what we did to Poland during WWII? Why does anything besides the here-and-now of oil matter? Sure we have a long cultural tradition, we speak your language, it's like a cross-atlantic 69.
But I don't think the British are in Iraq because they're being friends to America. I think they are there because the want oil just like the US. Seems awfully coincidental when you consider British Petroleum's presence in the mideast, offices in Iran and whatnot.
mOBSCENE
11-19-05, 03:41 AM
They want to turn us against each other...
So just look and speak...
mOBSCENE
11-19-05, 03:44 AM
[QUOTE=slaxxx]I've never supported the war, pretty much everyone I know here was against it too.
Me neither.
I fucking hate war.
Push against the twats...
Even when approval ratings were much higher, it's not the people in this area (NY) or California...the people who support the war are the rednecks and hillbillies of Middle America and the Deep South that we look down on anyway.
doesn't help the fact they are the loudest and most taken notice of group shaping the image the US has.
http://www.fluffyweecunt.com/nogood/get_a_brain.jpg
doesn't help the fact they are the loudest and most taken notice of group shaping the image the US has.
http://www.fluffyweecunt.com/nogood/get_a_brain.jpg
:D lol
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cock-a-leekie
11-20-05, 12:22 AM
It's the price we must pay for Cruise. Exclusive technology doesn't come cheaply.
Funny thing is, is that even though we're using their most advanced ballistic on their war, we still have to buy them from the US at a whopping $750k each. Crazy.
LiveBucks_Rob
11-20-05, 05:21 AM
Ive always believed we should be allies of the states, as they have been of us in the past.
Never thought of it like that myself before, I always wondered what the UK was doing. Makes a lot more sense now.
Canada has thankfully steered clear of the whole mess quite well so far.
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LMAO......I dare you!
Never thought of it like that myself before, I always wondered what the UK was doing. Makes a lot more sense now.
Canada has thankfully steered clear of the whole mess quite well so far.
Unlike what slaxxx thinks, I dont believe we went there for the oil, I do think we "believed" maybe wrongly that he had to go and that it was worth alienating ourselves from "most" of our european partners and supporting the states, like they have supported us in the past.
But maybe now, its time for us to leave them to it
But maybe now, its time for us to leave them to it
That point came and went about two and a half years ago. Tony Blair was naive enough to get caught up in a sons campaign to put right his fathers mistakes and Iraq is going to finish both of their remaining reputations.
May 1997 seems like a wasted lifetime ago.
LMAO......I dare you!
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i'll try to think of making the changes before i feel the next post coming on there.
top half of my piccie as graphic, linked to that site? :eyebrows:
i'll try to think of making the changes before i feel the next post coming on there.
Use the pic above :eyebrows:
ho-hum.
Iraq in a Wider Perspective by Professor Paul Rogers (http://www.oxfordresearchgroup.org.uk/publications/paulrogers/Oct05.htm)
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