View Full Version : whats the best way to get more hits?
dvtimes
06-16-08, 11:01 PM
whats the best way to get good hits to a site?
How long is a piece of string?
mOBSCENE
06-16-08, 11:48 PM
I saw that question posted back in 2001
Write your site URL on a bit of card, and pin it up on the 'public notices' board at your local supermarket...
Video Rob
06-17-08, 12:08 AM
Why do you do this to yourself?
adultbusiness
06-17-08, 12:08 AM
Have something worth visiting.............
Have something worth visiting.............
oooo you bitch :gaylords:
A Priest
06-17-08, 01:56 AM
step one: open a tgp
step two: find yourself a friendly Russian
step three: instant hits!
step one: open a tgp
step two: find yourself a friendly Russian
step three: instant hits!
Classy Content dot com?
chloe-dove
06-17-08, 04:02 AM
whats the best way to get good hits to a site?
take this bird off your tour!
Have something worth visiting.............
lol :gaylords:
Have something worth visiting.............
Sharp but very true :)
mOBSCENE
06-17-08, 11:42 AM
take this bird off your tour!
:noway2:
mike@BANG88.COM
06-17-08, 01:15 PM
take this bird off your tour!
I cannot believe that someone has this picture on their website & is wondering how to get hits!!.....:P
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mOBSCENE
06-17-08, 01:17 PM
I cannot believe that someone has this picture on their website & is wondering how to get hits!!.....:P
BANG88.COM (http://www.bang88.com)
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It would be OK if he wanted to get lots of "hits" on the "back" button!
dvtimes
06-17-08, 01:21 PM
i posted a few pics on a blog:
http://nuderudebabes.thumblogger.com/
Thursby
06-17-08, 01:55 PM
Write your site URL on a bit of card, and pin it up on the 'public notices' board at your local supermarket...
Hey, I know a guy who promotes his site with little lineage ads in the local paper classifieds. But he sells general retail stuff and most regional rags don't have a livestock section, so bin that idea...
adultbusiness
06-17-08, 02:27 PM
i posted a few pics on a blog:
http://nuderudebabes.thumblogger.com/
Is that you?
http://www.vanbabes.com/1b.jpg
Hey, I know a guy who promotes his site with little lineage ads in the local paper classifieds. But he sells general retail stuff and most regional rags don't have a livestock section, so bin that idea...
lol
I cannot believe that someone has this picture on their website & is wondering how to get hits!!.....:P
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WebCamGirls-Live.co.uk (http://www.webcamgirls-live.co.uk)
You do know that content has nothing to do with hits don't you?
I cannot believe that someone has this picture on their website & is wondering how to get hits!!.....:P
not quite following you there. would you like to introduce us to your brand new technology allowing the surfer to see the site before they opened it?
i posted a few pics on a blog:
http://nuderudebabes.thumblogger.com/
images are a tad on the large side, no?
Paul Markham
06-18-08, 06:45 AM
It's a good question DVT and one that everyone asks themselves. From the biggest to the smallest. The replies here say more about the poster than you. Here's a few pointers.
1) Convert better.
Obvious really, the more of an affiliates traffic you convert the more they will send you. Assuming they don't have to do any hard more work. They are in business to make the most money for the least amount of work. Like us sponsors.
Two ways you can do this, one is to give them more tools and promo material. Do you have a RSS feed for galleries, a picture of the day, a video of the day, 500 free hosted galleries and adding more every day, 400 image sets and 200 videos for them to use, embedded video, loads of banners and a mini freesite they can use to promote your site with? If not get working on it. Also a RSS feed for blogs is a good idea you should start writing one soon and giving it to affiliates. All this makes an affiliates life easier and more likely they will send you more hits.
Then you need to think through the niche you shoot. Amateur models are girls doing it for kicks, for the thrill and the sex. If you're not in the position of having sex with them by the end of the shoot they are not there for the reasons an amateur would be. I use this example to illustrate the fantasy in the surfers head. Not telling you to get more sex. It's telling you to work on your peoples skills when dealing with models.
Sadly most models are not amateurs, they are inexperienced girls doing it only for the money. They have no intentions of being what the surfer wants them the be. He wants a girl who will fuck for fun, they won't fuck for $500. In fact they are on guard and sceptical from the off. We shooters have to change them and turn them into the surfers fantasy. Playboy girl or Girl Next Door. They do not have a clue what to do, you need to know exactly what they have to do and have the skills to change them.
All shooters need to read a book on body language and consider some of the poses to use. I have seen ones many times that are wrong. Girls side ways on, looking at you out of the side of their eyes, lips closed, knuckles, elbows or knees pointed at the camera. Legs or arms crossed. And more. All wrong and none used by a woman trying to seduce a guy. It's no good for us to say this is the niche we are creating, when in truth we know it's the only thing our skills allow us to shoot. What sells is us filling the niche the surfer has in his head.
So this leads us to "What we Shoot." We all need to think it through from the surfers POV. What is he after, what's his fantasy and how do we fill it. Is it, some guy with a camera shooting a girl who could live in his street, she's doing it because she's a horny girl who wants some money and a fuck and not worried which one comes first. So long as she gets to fuck someone she will go home happy. Or is it, some guy shooting a naked girl who is only there for the money, she will fuck no one and not even that good looking.
Yes we need to know about the surfers fantasy before we pick up the camera. I know many surfers dream of being me and shooting hot willing horny teens, with the chance of sex afterwards. It's their fantasy and we fill it. In truth we know Eva shoots today and I can't be bothered. Yes she's sometimes a naughty girl, that's the job.
This is step one to getting more traffic.
Paul Markham
06-18-08, 08:32 AM
You asked how to get more hits and in the past you have said you shoot amateur in an amateur way. So I took a look at this picture and will tell you in a constructive way what is wrong with it in the "Amateur model, amateur shooter" niche.
http://www.beerandbollocks.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1999&d=1213640706
She's too rigid, there's nothing to show how relaxed, excited, thrilled or even friendly that shows in the picture. Here's some tips to put it right.
From the casting, never shoot a model without a casting for reasons too many to post here, tell her what her options are as a model in the business. Don't tell her what you you're going to be doing with her until she has told you what she is willing to do. It's mind games but it works.
Then tell her what style you will shoot it in and how she has to perform and feel to make it real. Modeling is partly acting and partly pulling something out from within the model. You need her to feel it's more about doing it for fun than doing it for money. WHEN SHE DOES IT.
When she arrives for the shoot tell her more about it, after you have greeted her, given her a cup of tea and told her to shower and put on a bathrobe. Your personality is warm, friendly and a bit of a clown, yet still conveying you're the boss, you know what you're doing and she can go home if she does not want to work your way.
To the shoot. Shoot her straight on, not to the side and if you are she is to turn her body to you. She does not look at you out of the side of her eyes, she is showing you her face and her body in a way to attract your attention. Her shoulders are back to show off her body, the hand is not in front of her body, the vibrator is not stuck on her hip like some meaningless prop. She's about to share with you her orgasm from using the vibrator, the vibrator is there to stimulate that thought in your head and she knows it. It's all subconscious for her and she can't help it.
Sorry to go on but even picking that picture to illustrate your work tells us all something.
Not many surfers fantasize about a guy paying to shoot a girl naked who will not fuck him. They fantasize about the girl down the road getting into a conversation with them and expressing a desire to be shot naked, just for the fun of it. When really she's secretly some nympho who loves fucking and really just wants to get him in bed. The Amateur Porn niche is about people doing it for real and easy. It's core devotee is a guy without the confidence to seduce a Playboy model. She has to be attainable and above all make it easy for him.
And you thought it was about getting a girl naked and pointing a camera at her. :oldman:
Fucking hell is markham some sort of cunt or what?
Two pretty long posts, in a thread about getting more traffic, that have fuck all to do with getting traffic.
In truth we know Eva shoots today and I can't be bothered. Yes she's sometimes a naughty girl, that's the job.
Very unprofessional
Paul Markham
06-18-08, 12:29 PM
Fucking hell is markham some sort of cunt or what?
Two pretty long posts, in a thread about getting more traffic, that have fuck all to do with getting traffic.
A moron has spoken.
Getting better and more tools leads to getting more traffic.
Getting better content leads to better conversions, which means the traffic keeps coming.
Or are you still living in the time when the surfer would click on anything. Stupid is as Geezer does.
Paul Markham
06-18-08, 12:35 PM
Very unprofessional
A clueless moron has now spoken.
This is the porn industry, it's allowed to be sexy.
I can see why girls might not get like it with you, when was the last time you saw your dick without the aid of a mirror?
To create a beautiful meal you have to make something you want to eat, to create porn in a cold non sexual environment is a tough job. You need the model thinking something more than "How much am I earning?" When will this finish?" and "If that fat fuck thinks I'm doing that he's joking."
What a model thinks shows on her face, they are not good actors.
You really are clueless. Stick to talking about things you understand and leave things you don't well alone.
You could be talking about doughnuts or cakes or what ever you eat.
Elisha Jade
06-18-08, 12:38 PM
Yeah make it sexy, but fucking your models does = unprofessional and you get a name for it. Not every model wants to or is willing to fuck her photographer and nor should it be expected of her.
Paul Markham
06-18-08, 12:39 PM
This industry is in trouble because the buyers are turning off from us. One of the reasons is clueless people like Geezer have shaped what we do. Porn is meant to be sexy, it's meant to be enjoyed, it's has to appear real to the buyer. Yes girls get turned on in a shoot, yes we shooters need them to get turned on and yes you need it so you can sell it.
Do you cry over a lamb getting killed when you tuck into the roast leg of lamb or in Geezers case half a carcass?
Paul Markham
06-18-08, 01:14 PM
Yeah make it sexy, but fucking your models does = unprofessional and you get a name for it. Not every model wants to or is willing to fuck her photographer and nor should it be expected of her.
Reread my post and think about it.
At no point did I say what you think I said.
A moron has spoken.
You certainly have
You really are clueless. Stick to talking about things you understand and leave things you don't well alone.
Thinking outloud?
adultbusiness
06-18-08, 01:40 PM
Yeah make it sexy, but fucking your models does = unprofessional and you get a name for it. Not every model wants to or is willing to fuck her photographer and nor should it be expected of her.
Oh? I better cancel the Nikon I just ordered :character0079:
A moron has spoken.
Getting better and more tools leads to getting more traffic.
Getting better content leads to better conversions, which means the traffic keeps coming.
Or are you still living in the time when the surfer would click on anything.
So better tools leads to getting more traffic how????
You could have all the "tools" in the world but if no one is using them then how will they generate traffic. You seem to be talking about getting more affiliates and getting their traffic.
Can you explain to a moron like me how better conversions means the traffic keeps coming?, oh are you talking about affiliates again?
So in the one paragraph in your post that could, maybe, have something to do with getting traffic is actually about trying to get other peoples traffic, the affiliates.
whats the best way to get good hits to a site?
As you can see he never asked how to attract more affiliates and I don't believe he asked about getting traffic to a paysite, or did I miss that bit?
As for surfers clicking on anything, yes they will.
This industry is in trouble because the buyers are turning off from us.
I suspect they are turning off from you generally because you are not as flexible as the new market demands, no reason to make assumptions based on your own business experience :)
Paul Markham
06-18-08, 02:14 PM
I suspect they are turning off from you generally because you are not as flexible as the new market demands, no reason to make assumptions based on your own business experience :)
Stupid is as stupid says.
I've survived 30 years. All because I'm inflexible. :noway2:
Stupid is as erots ........
Julian Lobb is a total tosser
And you are a cunt, you two should get on well
Paul Markham
06-18-08, 03:56 PM
And you are a cunt, you two should get on well
A cunt is useful. Well not to you because you will never get near it.
A cunt is useful. Well not to you because you will never get near it.
Not when you stand so far away
I've survived 30 years. All because I'm inflexible.
Yup.. exacly... you have SURVIVED :)
Yeah make it sexy, but fucking your models does = unprofessional and you get a name for it. Not every model wants to or is willing to fuck her photographer and nor should it be expected of her.
they are all dirty slags and want it. when Paulie is around anyway.
You certainly have
funny how the assumed safety of the interwebs makes people all big and strong while they stop this behaviour at the drop of a wine bottle, sorry, at the drop of a hat, when it comes to being a cunt face to face.
funny how the assumed safety of the interwebs makes people all big and strong while they stop this behaviour at the drop of a wine bottle, sorry, at the drop of a hat, when it comes to being a cunt face to face.
:takethat:
Paul Markham
06-19-08, 09:54 AM
they are all dirty slags and want it. when Paulie is around anyway.
Well let me sit and think about it for a minute. :oldman:
We sell to the surfers that the girls are sex mad females who will have sex at the drop of a hat. We try to convince the surfer this woman is so hot she would never say no. OK have I missed anything other than gay and a few niches?
Most of the girls in the business are not trained actresses, they might be able to fake an orgasm with their boyfriend but can they fake a scene in a porn move? Well enough to make more than 1-500 people stop and buy something.
A girl when she's aroused is usually looking sexier than unaroused. She has something about her that's making her more attractive to men. Any women will tell you she feels different about men when she's aroused, she will even think different about men when she's ovulating.
A girl working for a man she wants to have sex with AGAIN is going to sell better than a girl working with a man she has no intentions of having sex with, or even having an orgasm in the shoot.
So to create better porn it helps if you're shooting a girl who is aroused and wants sex, rather than doing a job to earn money. Of course some girls think being sexy while doing sex work is not the right thing. Lots of them are just doing it for the money. Prostitutes usually have this approach.
When you have thousands of sites churning out what is basically the same scene having the edge on the others is so important. So you want clinical and faked porn. Fine I'm not selling that, I'm selling girls who are turned on and sexual. You think that makes them dirty slags, I think it makes them good models and me more money.
The fact that I have to explain this here shows how little you know about the porn business. It's porn, we sell girls getting fucked, solo, lesbian or hardcore. Sometimes these girls have slightly more adventurous natures than you would like, sometimes they get turned on and sometimes the shooter gets turned on and sometimes they do something about it. Don't blame them for doing what comes from producing the porn you need to convert your traffic.
Yes I'm a sexual old man and before that I was a sexual middle aged man and before that I was a sexual man and before that I was a sexual young man. Kind of makes me doing porn a round peg in a round hole.
The idea that I have to force a girl to have sex by being a shooter says more about you than me. Never had a problem getting laid. That's the easy part. You probably think a girl has to be forced, I think she needs only to be seduced.
Paul Markham
06-19-08, 10:04 AM
If you read the above and asking yourself "Why is it important?" think of this.
If you have a market with thousands of sites charging money and a few giving it away you have to have a product that is generally speaking worth buying. Because if surfers join site after site that fail to meet his needs he starts to look at the free sites and thinks
"Why should I pay they're all the same and not worth it."
Produce bland pulp porn and your buyer loses interest.
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