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http://www.pornsitereviews.co.uk/request.php
Well I think Im finally there - the review site code all seems to be working as I hoped so now I gotta get some reviews to do so the site has something meaningful when I launch. Please feel free to submit your site(s) AND also (constructively) critique to your heart is content!
Ta
J
http://www.pornsitereviews.co.uk/request.php
http://www.pornsitereviews.co.uk/request.php
Well I think Im finally there - the review site code all seems to be working as I hoped so now I gotta get some reviews to do so the site has something meaningful when I launch. Please feel free to submit your site(s) AND also (constructively) critique to your heart is content!
Ta
J
http://www.pornsitereviews.co.uk/request.php
Is there a way we can submit say 8 sites at once for review?
You mean other than by submitting it 8 times? lol
I thought long and hard about this but I want to be able to track and monitor each site / review as a single entity and couldnt figure out any easy way to combat it. One thing I am thinking about adding is a sort of master webmaster account whereby you can create one main account which keeps all your pertitent info like email, affiliate program details etc stored and then you just add a review request so only have to add the info specific to that site or review but, for now, you really just gotta do it one at a time :takethat:
How about I make the same username and password for all and in the comments I add the other 7 urls?
How about I make the same username and password for all and in the comments I add the other 7 urls?
Yeah go for it - just make sure and include the relevant info for each site and I will get working on some other way of making multiple submissions easier
Thanks
Hey Jase
I just replied to you on BGAFD :) Don't take my comments to harshly..
Hey Jase
I just replied to you on BGAFD :) Don't take my comments to harshly..
My skin is muchhhhhhhhh too thick to be offended :)
Hey Jase
I just replied to you on BGAFD :) Don't take my comments to harshly..
And why cant you reply here also? Too lazy? ;)
Mattyboy
11-08-05, 06:53 PM
My sites don't just use CCBill on "Affiliate program:" drop down box.
I'd also being interested in submmiting several sites at once like JT but then i can't add the "Approx picture count:, Approx video count:, Update schedule" correctly though.
Personally I think that demanding a recip as well joining the affiliate prog is a bit much.
This has been debated to death on other boards but as I see it, I should not have to feel compelled to recip when the site is an affiliate.
Granted it's a new site and needs the traffic but there are other means of getting that traffic and if you want me to send you some of my punters that I've worked hard to get, so you can sell them a membership to my site, or even someone elses site for your profit, that sounds a bit fucked up from my end.
My sites don't just use CCBill on "Affiliate program:" drop down box.
I'd also being interested in submmiting several sites at once like JT but then i can't add the "Approx picture count:, Approx video count:, Update schedule" correctly though.
If thats the case Matt then use the comments box - I need to set up lots of different affiliate programs and CCBill is the only one I have done so far. Just include the details in comments and go for it.
On the pic count etc again either use the comments box or just PM me or drop an email and I will work something out - admin [@] pornsitereviews.co.uk.
Personally I think that demanding a recip as well joining the affiliate prog is a bit much.
This has been debated to death on other boards but as I see it, I should not have to feel compelled to recip when the site is an affiliate.
Granted it's a new site and needs the traffic but there are other means of getting that traffic and if you want me to send you some of my punters that I've worked hard to get, so you can sell them a membership to my site, or even someone elses site for your profit, that sounds a bit fucked up from my end.
You are forgetting one thing though - I will be sending you quality traffic on the back of a (hopefully) positive review and therefore signups which is what makes you money. Also it will hopefully help reluctant surfers on your site make the decision to part with their hard earned cash.
Its all swings and roundabouts - I need the recips to get traffic to get the people to the site to send to you to increase your signups and I need the affil revenue to be able to live.
Mattyboy
11-08-05, 07:18 PM
If thats the case Matt then use the comments box - I need to set up lots of different affiliate programs and CCBill is the only one I have done so far. Just include the details in comments and go for it.
On the pic count etc again either use the comments box or just PM me or drop an email and I will work something out - admin [@] pornsitereviews.co.uk.
OK thats cool. I wasn't complaining - just trying to help :)
I'll send you a PM or email later this evening...
Jase..
I can't help but smile.. The others have all said the sameas I did in my post.. Sorry mate.. I like it and you know I'll submit SGD to you anyway..
JT...
Moi lazy...
I saw the post on BGAFD first as I was there at the time.. .. I'll now quote what my late mother used to say to me and everyone else when necessary, "Fuck you and your mother for having you"... LOL
Guys I NEED your feedback - you guys have forgotten more about this industry than I will ever know hence why I am encouraging and even demanding feedback. The only way to improve something is to realise its faults and put them right!!
You are forgetting one thing though - I will be sending you quality traffic on the back of a (hopefully) positive review and therefore signups which is what makes you money. Also it will hopefully help reluctant surfers on your site make the decision to part with their hard earned cash.
Its all swings and roundabouts - I need the recips to get traffic to get the people to the site to send to you to increase your signups and I need the affil revenue to be able to live.
Good luck with the new site Jase but I can't see anyone running a serious program putting a traffic leak on their site.
Good luck with the new site Jase but I can't see anyone running a serious program putting a traffic leak on their site.
I can see where you are coming from but surely when a site is reviewed and gets a good review you will use that as a selling tool anyway which therefore constitutes a leak all be it directly to your review?
You are forgetting one thing though - I will be sending you quality traffic on the back of a (hopefully) positive review and therefore signups which is what makes you money. Also it will hopefully help reluctant surfers on your site make the decision to part with their hard earned cash.
Its all swings and roundabouts - I need the recips to get traffic to get the people to the site to send to you to increase your signups and I need the affil revenue to be able to live.
I still disagree and always will with this. You have my traffic or a %age of my signups and rebills you won't ever get both and I know a lot of others who think the same.
Look at it from my point of view. You want me to give you traffic that you then want to sell back to me for a percentage.
I still disagree and always will with this. You have my traffic or a %age of my signups and rebills you won't ever get both and I know a lot of others who think the same.
Look at it from my point of view. You want me to give you traffic that you then want to sell back to me for a percentage.
Im not looking to sell you your traffic back at all. The way I look at it is the surfer who comes to your site as a result of a recommendation or from a TGP or whatever and who wants to join your site will join anyway - the ones who are unsure and afraid they arent going o get value for money uses the review as a basis for deciding and therefore that customer is a bonus for you, a sign up which you probably wouldnt have got without the review.
Without the review chances are they will go to someone elses site and sign up so its actually a double loss for you. I know it means you dont make as much from that surfer as you would if it hadnt come via the review but you make something and you gain a happy customer who is more likely to stay for longer and recommend the site to his mates etc etc.
I can see where you are coming from but surely when a site is reviewed and gets a good review you will use that as a selling tool anyway which therefore constitutes a leak all be it directly to your review?
Explain that to affiliates who are sending me tens of thousands of hits a day.
If I thought that I needed a good review to close the sale I would buy a domain like alansreviews.com and write my own and link to it from my tours.
hmmm, good fucking idea, I might just do that.
If I thought that I needed a good review to close the sale I would buy a domain like alansreviews.com and write my own and link to it from my tours.
hmmm, good fucking idea, I might just do that.
If you believe that your site is good enough and sells itself without any help then dont submit a review request.
However, I dont know of a single business or industry segment anywhere in the world that doesnt have doubters and people who need convincing to part with their cash where reviews can and do help close the sale - my background is heavily in IT and reviews work VERY WELL in that business and I dont think adult is any different. In my previous company we regularly paid finders fees to consultants AND as a result of that and agressive discounting to win the deal did many large deals at well below cost just to gain the customer and their repeat business. You can never have too many customers in this business even if it means paying someone else to bring that customer to you as much as that may hurt to have to do!
Explain that to affiliates who are sending me tens of thousands of hits a day.
Cant argue with that - review sites arent for everyone but, personally speaking, as a surfer I wouldnt sign up for ANY site without first reading at least one impartial review.
I have had my fingers burned way too many times over the years by impressive tours and long lists of promises outside the members area only to discover absolute shit once I have parted with my money and, I suspect, many surfers are the same but thanks for the feedback anyway :) !
You can never have too many customers in this business even if it means paying someone else to bring that customer to you as much as that may hurt to have to do!
like.... affiliates?
like.... affiliates?
But he will be an affiliate he will just be sending you traffic a different way. A review site is just another for affiliates to get sales and as people have said they get some good sign ups from review sites.
Cant argue with that - review sites arent for everyone but, personally speaking, as a surfer I wouldnt sign up for ANY site without first reading at least one impartial review.
I have had my fingers burned way too many times over the years by impressive tours and long lists of promises outside the members area only to discover absolute shit once I have parted with my money and, I suspect, many surfers are the same but thanks for the feedback anyway :) !
We are on all of the big of review sites out there, the traffic is great and they convert very well *and* they make money out of us. Its the return link that is the problem.
You have to understand the basic nuts and bolts of how the business works before you can even think about reviewing sites.
But he will be an affiliate he will just be sending you traffic a different way. A review site is just another for affiliates to get sales and as people have said they get some good sign ups from review sites.
not the point i was aiming for but him acting like sponsors paying someone to bring them buyers was a new concept.
and then we didn't even take commons things into account yet, like bought traffic and ad space on other sites.
We are on all of the big of review sites out there, the traffic is great and they convert very well *and* they make money out of us. Its the return link that is the problem.
You have to understand the basic nuts and bolts of how the business works before you can even think about reviewing sites.
Most if not all of the big review sites insist on a recip link of some sort - I know this is going to sound confrontational but you are listed on Rabbit for example and they insist on a recip which by your own admission you dont have so, it appears anyway, that technically you are screwing them. You signed up for a review, agreed to their T&C which state you must have a recip and now dont have the recip - thats not playing by the rules, you are happily taking signups from them but not giving them the traffic and link which you agreed to when signing up.
Most if not all of the big review sites insist on a recip link of some sort - I know this is going to sound confrontational but you are listed on Rabbit for example and they insist on a recip which by your own admission you dont have so, it appears anyway, that technically you are screwing them. You signed up for a review, agreed to their T&C which state you must have a recip and now dont have the recip - thats not playing by the rules, you are happily taking signups from them but not giving them the traffic and link which you agreed to when signing up.
You really need to investigate this a bit more. :)
You really need to investigate this a bit more. :)
LOL well unless you have some sort of special agreement with them their signup page very clearly states that you must have a recip http://www.rabbitsreviews.com/webmastersforms.aspx which (amongst other sites) is kinda where I got the idea of forcing people to include recips from...........
LOL well unless you have some sort of special agreement with them their signup page very clearly states that you must have a recip http://www.rabbitsreviews.com/webmastersforms.aspx which (amongst other sites) is kinda where I got the idea of forcing people to include recips from...........
Have you checked all of the other sites there?
Have you checked all of the other sites there?
Nopeeeeeeeee not at all and have no intention of it - I know it might seem like Im having a go and sour grapes and all that but Im just trying to get my point across and, in this instance, we are having the debate and your site is relevant at this particular moment in time.
Most of the the big review sites ask for / insist on a recip so Im gonna do the same but also my site tracks the traffic coming in from each review / site and if it falls below a threshold it alerts me so I can check for the recip and if its gone I have the *option* to suspend the review. Even have a built in function to delete all reviews without a recip but whether I use it or not who knows :eyebrows:
Like I said before Im (fairly) new to this game and Im willing to learn and take advice - if the concensus of opinion is that asking for both affiliate AND recip is taking the piss then I may decide to give webmasters the option of one or the other. Thats why I posted on here a few weeks ago asking for reviewers for my review site but no one bothered to actual review it :ninja:
Most of the the big review sites ask for / insist on a recip so Im gonna do the same but also my site tracks the traffic coming in from each review / site and if it falls below a threshold it alerts me so I can check for the recip and if its gone I have the *option* to suspend the review. Even have a built in function to delete all reviews without a recip but whether I use it or not who knows :eyebrows:
We track all of our hits too and we now have seven top spec ninja webservers in the load balance set up that keeps Sagi very busy just for our Lady-Sonia.com site alone so we know a little bit about traffic. :)
You need to go with your gut instinct and run with it. You can always make changes as you go along as everyone else does and its making those changes and tinkering that will make it work. :)
We track all of our hits too and we now have seven top spec ninja webservers in the load balance set up that keeps Sagi very busy just for our Lady-Sonia.com site alone so we know a little bit about traffic. :)
You need to go with your gut instinct and run with it. You can always make changes as you go along as everyone else does and its making those changes and tinkering that will make it work. :)
Well Im the first to admit I know practically jack shit about traffic - load balancing yes, traffic nope!
My gut instinct is like everyones - try and get as much as possible but maybe thats just greed or naivety but I will only know it if people tell me which is why your feedback has been invaluable :cheers2:
Mattyboy
11-08-05, 09:04 PM
We are listed on Rabbits but have no links back to them from the paysites. They understand and we have links elsewhere to them where it doesn't hurt other affiliates.
Well Im the first to admit I know practically jack shit about traffic - load balancing yes, traffic nope!
My gut instinct is like everyones - try and get as much as possible but maybe thats just greed or naivety but I will only know it if people tell me which is why your feedback has been invaluable :cheers2:
You can get traffic from a number of sources but you should be making referral sales for every conversion going out. Business is business and money is god. :)
We are listed on Rabbits but have no links back to them from the paysites. They understand and we have links elsewhere to them where it doesn't hurt other affiliates.
:)
We are listed on Rabbits but have no links back to them from the paysites. They understand and we have links elsewhere to them where it doesn't hurt other affiliates.
My site doesnt specify where the reciprocal link has to come from, just that it exists. If you have other sites that drive traffic to your main site(s) and want to use those for reciprocals then thats fine with me as the end result is the same - I get traffic and you dont get any leaks!
Have just updated the T&C to now read:
"You must have a reciprocal link back to us (we DO check as part of the review submission process and we have scripts that check regularly for existance of the link). Please note this link DOES NOT have to be on your main site / the site for which you are requesting a review. If you are trying to prevent traffic leaks then feel free to place the link on other sites you use to drive traffic to your site - as long as it sends us some traffic then we have no problem with this policy."
All along the script just checks the page you specify for the linkback URL - while I had always assumed it would be on the main site I dont mind if it is or isnt.
My site doesnt specify where the reciprocal link has to come from, just that it exists. If you have other sites that drive traffic to your main site(s) and want to use those for reciprocals then thats fine with me as the end result is the same - I get traffic and you dont get any leaks!
Ahhh, but you didn't say that before
Ahhh, but you didn't say that before
I didnt say it but I didnt not say it :)
Seriously though guys thats why this feedback is so invaluable to me!
The problem is that if you ask for a recip to a brand new site then people might just not bother. If no one is submitting their sites for review then you have no review site. Yes, you could still review any sites you like, but unless you are going to pay to join them all and give a genuine honest review you will only have a fake review site.
I would go without a recip until you start getting some decent traffic and are able to send good traffic to the paysites. You can always change your rules later so that people have to include a recip.
I didnt say it but I didnt not say it :)
Seriously though guys thats why this feedback is so invaluable to me!
Don't start all that politician talk :takethat:
The problem is that if you ask for a recip to a brand new site then people might just not bother. If no one is submitting their sites for review then you have no review site. Yes, you could still review any sites you like, but unless you are going to pay to join them all and give a genuine honest review you will only have a fake review site.
I would go without a recip until you start getting some decent traffic and are able to send good traffic to the paysites. You can always change your rules later so that people have to include a recip.
OK have removed the requirement for a recip link - the system still looks exactly the same but it now doesnt check for the recip and will let you submit a review request WITHOUT a recip.
OK have removed the requirement for a recip link - the system still looks exactly the same but it now doesnt check for the recip and will let you submit a review request WITHOUT a recip.
I think that's the way to go, for now anyway.
It's nice to see someone ask for advice and actually take it, so many ask for feedback or reviews of their sites. When they are given the same advice by a few WM's they just say bollocks up your arsehole, I know better and will leave it as it is. Which normally means it will fail, I can think of a classic example sexxy somthing or other :eyebrows:
I think that's the way to go, for now anyway.
It's nice to see someone ask for advice and actually take it, so many ask for feedback or reviews of their sites. When they are given the same advice by a few WM's they just say bollocks up your arsehole, I know better and will leave it as it is. Which normally means it will fail, I can think of a classic example sexxy somthing or other :eyebrows:
Nah thats why I asked Geezer - like I said before, all constructive feedback is good feedback and I am more than happy to admit Im wrong and to take others advice especially on something Im a relative newb to.
Nah thats why I asked Geezer - like I said before, all constructive feedback is good feedback and I am more than happy to admit Im wrong and to take others advice especially on something Im a relative newb to.
:thumbsup:
daveydude
11-08-05, 10:51 PM
What a cool thread!
We get traffic from Rabbit and others but we have no recips for them . I can't see review sites getting very far if they *demand* recips. Imagine if affiliates demanded recips to their galleries / TGPs - no serious program would stand for that if they wanted to keep the rest of their affiliates, or get any new ones.
To get around this problem we have a different tour for non-affiliate traffic, which is leaky as hell, but it lets us promote in different ways. And those leaky tours sure do convert well. I'll be submitting to you soon Jase...
I think that's the way to go, for now anyway.
It's nice to see someone ask for advice and actually take it, so many ask for feedback or reviews of their sites. When they are given the same advice by a few WM's they just say bollocks up your arsehole, I know better and will leave it as it is. Which normally means it will fail, I can think of a classic example sexxy somthing or other :eyebrows:
here here, I agree wholeheartedly
Nah thats why I asked Geezer - like I said before, all constructive feedback is good feedback and I am more than happy to admit Im wrong and to take others advice especially on something Im a relative newb to.
kudos Jase. Good luck with the site
:cheers:
I have only asked Richards Realm to review SGD and that was way back when the site was launched and it was still quite small. They gave the site an ok review :) It's now on Rabbit's after they asked if they could review it as have quite a few others..
I have more than one tour and on my own version I have a short quote from Richard, Rabbit and one other with a text link back to the full one. The logic is that some sufers, no matter what they see on the tour know that many sites have pure crap inside.. A good review can make that extra sale..
I also have to say that I've fallen out big time with Rich Media who run PenisBot and a few other sites. Their reviewer was from Smalltown mid US and couldn't tell a real Indian from a Latina ! They thought Sahara was Latina and gave the site a shit review, while using more of the promotional material than they did for sites they loved. I in my usual polite manner asked them who the reviewer was and offered to pay for an eye test plus a few other choice words. They now have me as one of only two programmes banned from all of their programmes.. LOL.
Go for it Jase :)
Thats why I posted on here a few weeks ago asking for reviewers for my review site but no one bothered to actual review it :ninja:
Only saw yer admin/backend and it seemed you had most bases covered - next to impossible to give much in the way of creative input without seeing how you implement the info into the frontend & whatnot ... I'm sure you'll get plenty of advice on here when the site is launched :)
Only saw yer admin/backend and it seemed you had most bases covered - next to impossible to give much in the way of creative input without seeing how you implement the info into the frontend & whatnot ... I'm sure you'll get plenty of advice on here when the site is launched :)
Thats cool JP - didnt hear anything back and. therefore, assumed that you hadnt had time and assumption being the mother of all fuck ups and all that, ahem, enuff said!!
Oh and by the way can I just say (this is specifically for you ALLAN / DVT) read the T&C which you agree to before submitting a site - I am NOT going to be reviewing free sites and, even if I was, you realllllllly dont want me to review cheesywarts or whatever its called. I know I need to get a review portfolio but I dont want my first reviews to include single figures scores.........
Oh and by the way can I just say (this is specifically for you ALLAN / DVT) read the T&C which you agree to before submitting a site - I am NOT going to be reviewing free sites and, even if I was, you realllllllly dont want me to review cheesywarts or whatever its called. I know I need to get a review portfolio but I dont want my first reviews to include single figures scores.........
LMAO :lmao2:
mellenig
11-09-05, 09:57 AM
Good luck with the new site :thumbsup:
Makes a refreshing change for a webmaster to ask for advice and take it on board :crown:
I dont think its unreasonable to ask for a link back if the site has other links. Many sites dont really on an affiliate model, they run there sites like many of us run our free sites.
I think you should have that as an option. But with that maybe it would be fair to open the review site to sites that will link back and that dont have affiliate programs.
That way you get both affiliate sites to review and also none affiliate sites who can send traffic but also dont have to give you a cut of the profit. I have a site that does reviews and its also a link list and thats what I do http://www.fetishshark.com
"Oh and by the way can I just say (this is specifically for you ALLAN / DVT) read the T&C which you agree to before submitting a site - I am NOT going to be reviewing free sites and, even if I was, you realllllllly dont want me to review cheesywarts or whatever its called. I know I need to get a review portfolio but I dont want my first reviews to include single figures scores........."
Jase
You could use that site as an example of what you don't want... LOL.
You have an email from me, and I think you need at least 6 sites to launch with, so good luck again.. I'm sure the others here are willing to let you do a review as well as me to help you get started....
Come on folks help a fellow B & B guy get going.. Your review site needs you...
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Come on folks help a fellow B & B guy get going.. Your review site needs you...
Nah, he might give me a shit review :geezer:
Hi,
Do you want to review TAC Amateurs (http://www.tacamateurs.com/tachub.htm)
If so drop me an email and I can sort you out with a U & P
:)
Hi,
Do you want to review TAC Amateurs (http://www.tacamateurs.com/tachub.htm)
If so drop me an email and I can sort you out with a U & P
:)
Would you rather it be reviewed as a "program" or each individual site?? If you want to submit a review request click the link - means everything goes into the admin panel etc so I can track whats coming and going!
Thanks
Jase
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