For anyone who is

[mellenig]

buying submit passes one you should look at it is the AL4A/Worldsex one. The ROI for my submits is very high.

I've been posting to these 2 sites since 2000 and could guarantee at first 10-14 listing per site per month with some great sales. As more and more got into the submitting the listings went down by 2005 I was lucky to get listed once per site each month.

As soon as they launched the premium submit I grabbed one, I know I get listed probably 15 times a month across both sites. I average about 2-3 sales per listing not too bad for $90.

Tips for getting listed.
It says you can submit every other day so 15 times per site. I submit a maximum of 9 per site per month.
Keep your gallery clean 2 outgoings links only.
Keep the site clean no popup.
Use your own content not sponsor.
Use the correct recips and keep them for al4a and worldsex only.
They list picture galleries easier than movie ones.
Also make sure you are on a nice fast server with plenty of bandwidth.

Another 2 to get on the waiting list for if you are on a limited budget and cant afford to buy them all is Elephant list and pink world.

Personally I see the business coming full circle on its self, with 2257 thinning the sponsor content, less free good traffic, we maybe seeing more profitable times ahead. The part time quick buck webmaster maybe becoming a think of the past. I think if you are not prepared to invest in your business with finance/time it will be hard to survive.

[stouch]

I couldnt agree more, I have purchased 2 passes and easily make it back and more.

[Shandy McAndy]

Whats the conversions like compared to say the hun? :mad:

[mellenig]

It doesnt convert as well as the Hun but the Hun doesnt have premium submit accounts only paid spots and the last time I purchased 10 spots there I think it was $2k so there is quite a bit of difference.

[chilihost]

I am assuming you are posting straight galleries? any idea if gay galleries would do well there?

cheers,
Luke

[mellenig]

They are both mostly straight sites so I would assume gay galleries wouldnt convert well.

[chilihost]

aah...ok. One of these days I will get back into posting straight galleries and will keep this in mind. I just need a visit from the majic time ferry to make my days have more hours in them ;)

cheers,
Luke

[Cardinal_Sin]

buying submit passes one you should look at it is the AL4A/Worldsex one. The ROI for my submits is very high.

I've been posting to these 2 sites since 2000 and could guarantee at first 10-14 listing per site per month with some great sales. As more and more got into the submitting the listings went down by 2005 I was lucky to get listed once per site each month.

As soon as they launched the premium submit I grabbed one, I know I get listed probably 15 times a month across both sites. I average about 2-3 sales per listing not too bad for $90.

Tips for getting listed.
It says you can submit every other day so 15 times per site. I submit a maximum of 9 per site per month.
Keep your gallery clean 2 outgoings links only.
Keep the site clean no popup.
Use your own content not sponsor.
Use the correct recips and keep them for al4a and worldsex only.
They list picture galleries easier than movie ones.
Also make sure you are on a nice fast server with plenty of bandwidth.

Another 2 to get on the waiting list for if you are on a limited budget and cant afford to buy them all is Elephant list and pink world.

Personally I see the business coming full circle on its self, with 2257 thinning the sponsor content, less free good traffic, we maybe seeing more profitable times ahead. The part time quick buck webmaster maybe becoming a think of the past. I think if you are not prepared to invest in your business with finance/time it will be hard to survive.

I think submit passes are a a good way to go - Not only to further monetize tgps, but to keep the gallery cheats out.
I have been thinking about doing this with our tgps mainly to block the cheats - With an average of 25% traffic straight from search engines, it is a real downer to lose that traffic to an idiot who would rather steal than work straight.

[JT]

I think submit passes are a a good way to go - Not only to further monetize tgps, but to keep the gallery cheats out.
I have been thinking about doing this with our tgps mainly to block the cheats - With an average of 25% traffic straight from search engines, it is a real downer to lose that traffic to an idiot who would rather steal than work straight.

Dude we are thinking of starting a network of UK themed and UK owned TGP's all helping each other and listing each other etc. You in?

[mellenig]

What kind of traffic would a site need to have to get in on this network?

My uk themed sites dont have that much traffic bit I could feed them from my US network of sites let me know the requirments etc to get in and Ill set up a couple of sites to make sure they fit in.


thanks

[JT]

What kind of traffic would a site need to have to get in on this network?

My uk themed sites dont have that much traffic bit I could feed them from my US network of sites let me know the requirments etc to get in and Ill set up a couple of sites to make sure they fit in.


thanks

I dont see it needs to be a ton of traffic to start with I have a couple of UK sites that get ok traffic that I only list my only stuff on, but Im thinking we could trade with hard links, no skim at all and make proper TGP's and allow each other to submit galleries

[Cardinal_Sin]

Dude we are thinking of starting a network of UK themed and UK owned TGP's all helping each other and listing each other etc. You in?


Tgp's yes - (not cj sites)

[JT]

Tgp's yes - (not cj sites)

Yep we are gonna do real tgp's no skim real galleries submited