Introduction

[UK Rachel]

Hi
Im Rachel from www.uk-bukkake.com. Im new to the board so though it would only be polite to introduce myself?!

Ive been running my site for 3 years now and have been working on several other sites too.

My affiliate program http://www.ukbukkakecash converts well.

Im still learning each day but like to keep my site look amateurish (Or crap as I guess you are thinking!) so that guys can relate to it and its not just a glossy airbrushed site.

Im a member of several webmaster boards and am always keen to share information.

I look forward to talking to some of you soon!

Love Rachel
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[mellenig]

Hi Rachel welcome to the board

[Head Boy]

Hi
Im Rachel from www.uk-bukkake.com. Im new to the board so though it would only be polite to introduce myself?!

Ive been running my site for 3 years now and have been working on several other sites too.

My affiliate program http://www.ukbukkakecash converts well.

Im still learning each day but like to keep my site look amateurish (Or crap as I guess you are thinking!) so that guys can relate to it and its not just a glossy airbrushed site.

Im a member of several webmaster boards and am always keen to share information.

I look forward to talking to some of you soon!

Love Rachel
x

Would you like to be in a wet T-shirt competition?

[UK Rachel]

Would you like to be in a wet T-shirt competition?

Yeah that sounds like fun!!

[UK Rachel]

Hi Rachel welcome to the board

Thanks! Just looking at your sites - and my banner was already on one! for Euro xxx was is? Ta!
Rach
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[Tim]

Welcome Rachel - like your site :)

[ChemicalEyes]

Welcome to B&B! Rachel :)

[JT]

Welcome Rachel. Love your site. Ive been doing both the cumshot niche and the UK amateur niche for years, so we have spoken over that time. Id love to promote your site, all Id want is a clean tour and a higher join price then Im in :drink:

[JT]

Plus,do you make custom content?

[AndyMN]

Welcome :) Where in the UK are you from?

[Head Boy]

Welcome Rachel. Love your site. Ive been doing both the cumshot niche and the UK amateur niche for years, so we have spoken over that time. Id love to promote your site, all Id want is a clean tour and a higher join price then Im in :drink:

Why should you get a clean tour and a higher join price?

[JT]

Why should you get a clean tour and a higher join price?

Shouldn't all affilaites get a clean tour? Or should we send traffic to a site that uses it to feed its trafic trades?

Id prefere a higher join price becasue Ive seen Rachels content and I know punters would pay more to see it

[Head Boy]

Shouldn't all affilaites get a clean tour? Or should we send traffic to a site that uses it to feed its trafic trades?

Id prefere a higher join price becasue Ive seen Rachels content and I know punters would pay more to see it

To me it sounded like you wanted some preferential treatment.
We would all like cleaner tours and higher payouts but they are paying us and we have to either accept their tour/payouts or don't promote them.
If she has been running her site for as long as she says then it's clear people are willing to pay what is asked and affiliates are prepared to accept the pay structure.

[JT]

To me it sounded like you wanted some preferential treatment.
We would all like cleaner tours and higher payouts but they are paying us and we have to either accept their tour/payouts or don't promote them.
If she has been running her site for as long as she says then it's clear people are willing to pay what is asked and affiliates are prepared to accept the pay structure.

Im not prepared to except a tour with traffic leaks, thats why I said in my post "Id love to promote your site, all Id want is a clean tour and a higher join price then Im in" If she doesnt want to offer clean tours then fine, but I can tell you now yhose who offer clean tours get better webmasters. Being as though this is a webmaster forum it might be worth someone pointing that out

[Head Boy]

Im not prepared to except a tour with traffic leaks, thats why I said in my post "Id love to promote your site, all Id want is a clean tour and a higher join price then Im in" If she doesnt want to offer clean tours then fine, but I can tell you now yhose who offer clean tours get better webmasters. Being as though this is a webmaster forum it might be worth someone pointing that out

So what can you offer that would make it worth her while changing her tour and pricing?
Why do you even mention anything?, you think the site is good so either promote it or don't but don't ask for the whole structure of the site to be changed just to suit you.

[JT]

So what can you offer that would make it worth her while changing her tour and pricing?
Why do you even mention anything?, you think the site is good so either promote it or don't but don't ask for the whole structure of the site to be changed just to suit you.

Do you understand what why an affiliate sends traffic? Do you understand what an affilaite tour is? Do you understand that an affiliate sends traffic to a clean tour so he can get sales? Dont you understand whay an affiliate would want a clean tour?

[Head Boy]

Do you understand what why an affiliate sends traffic? Do you understand what an affilaite tour is? Do you understand that an affiliate sends traffic to a clean tour so he can get sales? Dont you understand whay an affiliate would want a clean tour?

An affiliate tour would be the tour offered by a site to promote them and tell you what you will get as a webmaster promoting that site.
If you mean a "Tour" which is where a paysite offers a tour to surfers to join their paysite, these are two totally different things.

Have you been drinking for too long today as you seem to be getting confused with an affiliate tour and a surfer tour.

[JT]

An affiliate tour would be the tour offered by a site to promote them and tell you what you will get as a webmaster promoting that site.
If you mean a "Tour" which is where a paysite offers a tour to surfers to join their paysite, these are two totally different things.

Have you been drinking for too long today as you seem to be getting confused with an affiliate tour and a surfer tour.

You are to stupid to be a webmaster. Bye :drink:

[Shandy McAndy]

why do people try and argue for the sake of it?

[JT]

why do people try and argue for the sake of it?

Cause they are losers dude Im afraid

[mellenig]

Welcome Rachel. Love your site. Ive been doing both the cumshot niche and the UK amateur niche for years, so we have spoken over that time. Id love to promote your site, all Id want is a clean tour and a higher join price then Im in :drink:

id have to agree with you there, I promote the site but its weighted very low in my banner rotation, if the tour was clean id send much more traffic. Ive sent very few hits and got a couple of sales so the content does convert well.

[JT]

id have to agree with you there, I promote the site but its weighted very low in my banner rotation, if the tour was clean id send much more traffic. Ive sent very few hits and got a couple of sales so the content does convert well.

Shes got great content, Id love to have that site or a site like that in my affiliate program, with content like that it would be a gold mine

[stouch]

Ive made the mistake of signing up for sponsors in the past only to see their tours are traffic leak city. I wouldnt push that either.

[stouch]

So what can you offer that would make it worth her while changing her tour and pricing?
Why do you even mention anything?, you think the site is good so either promote it or don't but don't ask for the whole structure of the site to be changed just to suit you.

Because we have to generate traffic which involves time and money with the goal being to get signups, not feed other peoples trades. I cant see what the problem is with that?

If there was a tour that affiliates could send traffic to without the leaks, you can bet your arse that the site would flourish more owing to extra revenue.

[Head Boy]

Because we have to generate traffic which involves time and money with the goal being to get signups, not feed other peoples trades. I cant see what the problem is with that?

If there was a tour that affiliates could send traffic to without the leaks, you can bet your arse that the site would flourish more owing to extra revenue.

If youdon't like what a site offers then don't promote it, it's that simple.

[mellenig]

If youdon't like what a site offers then don't promote it, it's that simple.

This is a webmaster forum so whats the problem with offering the webmistress advice. If the site had a clean tour then more people would promote the site hence making the webmistress more money..."it's that simple"

[ChemicalEyes]

This is a webmaster forum so whats the problem with offering the webmistress advice. If the site had a clean tour then more people would promote the site hence making the webmistress more money..."it's that simple"

:smoke:

Hes a nutter forget him

[UK Rachel]

Shouldn't all affilaites get a clean tour? Or should we send traffic to a site that uses it to feed its trafic trades?

Id prefere a higher join price becasue Ive seen Rachels content and I know punters would pay more to see it


There are no popups on uk-bukkake.com at all.

I dont think I can have a higher join price, I struggle like mad to get people to join now and Im not doing very well at all.
:mad:

[UK Rachel]

Shes got great content, Id love to have that site or a site like that in my affiliate program, with content like that it would be a gold mine

Im confused now. Im not very good at all this! I dont really get what you mean by traffice leak - sorry.

How can we work together to make more money! I need some! My site is going downhill cos I cant market it

[mellenig]

I dont think it was so much popups as it was exit links for example to your top list trades on your front page and to the purchase of the videos on the main splash page.

No webmaster will send you a lot of traffic with so many exit links that he will not get paid for. If you had a totally clean tour for affiliates you would get more webmasters sending you traffic.

You have some quality unique content :thumbsup: and the site should be making you good money.

[mellenig]

Im confused now. Im not very good at all this! I dont really get what you mean by traffice leak - sorry.

How can we work together to make more money! I need some! My site is going downhill cos I cant market it

What ways are you marketing at the moment?

[mOBSCENE]

Im confused now. Im not very good at all this! I dont really get what you mean by traffice leak - sorry.

How can we work together to make more money! I need some! My site is going downhill cos I cant market it

Damn Rachel, can't have that. I'll join up to your program and see if we can make some money together :thumbsup:

[mellenig]

Im confused now. Im not very good at all this! I dont really get what you mean by traffice leak - sorry.

How can we work together to make more money! I need some! My site is going downhill cos I cant market it

if you built a clean tour and let me use some video for marketing Id add you to some paid spots I have next week. let me know

[Cardinal_Sin]

If youdon't like what a site offers then don't promote it, it's that simple.

Don't you understand anything?

If a webmaster asked me to include-omit a certain part of one of my tours to suite him and I know he could send a decent amount of traffic, then it would mean cash in MY bank to help that webmaster.
John has a good point - If you run a programme then your tours should never have any form of traffic leaking from it in order to maximise your partners revenue.
John send one of my sites several joins a week - Damn sure he wouldn't do so if his traffic was being abused.

For UK Rachael to create a tour like this would take 2 minutes to remove the out links and 2 minutes to customize a new join form - 4 minutes to creat a tour that 1) doesn't interfere with her current tour and 2) would satisfy a partner with good traffic - Both benefiting.

[mOBSCENE]

BTW Rachel, what the guys are on about is all the other links you have on your entry page in addition to the actual "Enter" link - meaning that surfers could well pop off to join the Yahoo group or any of the other sites, meaning that the webmaster who had sent the surfer wouldn't get anything out of sending the traffic. So the more links you have on your page to other sites, the more chance there is that traffic will leak out and give no return for the referring webmaster...

[UK Rachel]

What ways are you marketing at the moment?

Just the links on the page, I do some TGP posts but they never really convert. Ive just got a listing on the hun which has increased sign ups today.

I just dont know how to link it.

[UK Rachel]

if you built a clean tour and let me use some video for marketing Id add you to some paid spots I have next week. let me know

A clean tour for affiliates - so an additional tour that just affiliates use, not replacing the existing one?

I'll do some work tomorrow on it and let you know how I get on!

[UK Rachel]

Don't you understand anything?

If a webmaster asked me to include-omit a certain part of one of my tours to suite him and I know he could send a decent amount of traffic, then it would mean cash in MY bank to help that webmaster.
John has a good point - If you run a programme then your tours should never have any form of traffic leaking from it in order to maximise your partners revenue.
John send one of my sites several joins a week - Damn sure he wouldn't do so if his traffic was being abused.

For UK Rachael to create a tour like this would take 2 minutes to remove the out links and 2 minutes to customize a new join form - 4 minutes to creat a tour that 1) doesn't interfere with her current tour and 2) would satisfy a partner with good traffic - Both benefiting.

Sorry if im being a bit thick here! So an additional tour with no exit links, just the photos and a join page? And a join page with a higher join price? like what? Its currently $20 a month.

[mellenig]

Sorry if im being a bit thick here! So an additional tour with no exit links, just the photos and a join page? And a join page with a higher join price? like what? Its currently $20 a month.

Yes just get rid of any exit link that was not paying the webmaster who sent you the traffic. Then send all affiliate traffic to that so you would have

http://www.uk-bukkake.com/ for your own internal traffic

then

http://www.uk-bukkake.com/tour1/ where you send all affiliate traffic too.

As to the join price it was JT who suggested the higher join but I would think with the unique content you have the join should be $24.95 or $29.95. But if you kept it at $20 with the clean tour I would still send you more traffic.

[UK Rachel]

Yes just get rid of any exit link that was not paying the webmaster who sent you the traffic. Then send all affiliate traffic to that so you would have

http://www.uk-bukkake.com/ for your own internal traffic

then

http://www.uk-bukkake.com/tour1/ where you send all affiliate traffic too.

As to the join price it was JT who suggested the higher join but I would think with the unique content you have the join should be $24.95 or $29.95. But if you kept it at $20 with the clean tour I would still send you more traffic.

I'll have a play around with it tomorrow and let you know when its done!
Should I increase the price for all traffic do you think or just the affiliate join? I cant really have two different prices can I I guess?

[Cardinal_Sin]

Sorry if im being a bit thick here! So an additional tour with no exit links, just the photos and a join page? And a join page with a higher join price? like what? Its currently $20 a month.

Basically -
Copy a tour and remove all outer links. Set up another join page with higher prices (29.95 for ex) and offer your affiliates the new tour - I have many such tours catering to individual webmasters - If a guy can send 4 or 5k a day, it is well worth it -
When you network with other webmasters, telling them you can set the tour to suit them is on way of swinging the deal your way.
Hope this helps -

[stouch]

I'll have a play around with it tomorrow and let you know when its done!
Should I increase the price for all traffic do you think or just the affiliate join? I cant really have two different prices can I I guess?

Rachel, you can have it however you want. As an example take a look at Andrej from Nextdoorcash. In his affiliate area you have the option of setting the join price at whatever you like from $14.97, 19.97, 24.97 etc up to 34.97 (i may be slightly out but you get the gist).

At the end of the day there is nothing wrong with having a $20 join and say a $29 join for webmasters who feel they can convert at that rate because both of you will earn more. Just give it a try because you already have the support of a few webmasters here who are prepared to suck it and see.

[Cardinal_Sin]

Rachel, you can have it however you want. As an example take a look at Andrej from Nextdoorcash. In his affiliate area you have the option of setting the join price at whatever you like from $14.97, 19.97, 24.97 etc up to 34.97 (i may be slightly out but you get the gist).

At the end of the day there is nothing wrong with having a $20 join and say a $29 join for webmasters who feel they can convert at that rate because both of you will earn more. Just give it a try because you already have the support of a few webmasters here who are prepared to suck it and see.

Just seen her site - Looks like Rachael has a few members who like to suck it and see! (She looks the kind of girl who could easily join up with some catholic projects I have - Sisters of No Mercy comes to mind!

[Shandy McAndy]

Im confused now. Im not very good at all this! I dont really get what you mean by traffice leak - sorry.

How can we work together to make more money! I need some! My site is going downhill cos I cant market it

A traffic leak is when you have an outbound link that the refering webmaster doesnt benefit from. Have a look at your site youll see a few.

[JT]

I'll have a play around with it tomorrow and let you know when its done!
Should I increase the price for all traffic do you think or just the affiliate join? I cant really have two different prices can I I guess?

Rachel, you have a great site and should be making lots of money on it. With reference to the join price. No one ever joins a site because of the price. They join because they want to wank over the content. Its that simple. I would love to have a site like yours in my program, you should really be concentrating on the content and letting someone else do the marketing. You have what most webmasters dream of, great unique content, you just need to make the most from it :thumbsup:

[UK Rachel]

Rachel, you have a great site and should be making lots of money on it. With reference to the join price. No one ever joins a site because of the price. They join because they want to wank over the content. Its that simple. I would love to have a site like yours in my program, you should really be concentrating on the content and letting someone else do the marketing. You have what most webmasters dream of, great unique content, you just need to make the most from it :thumbsup:

Thanks, but Im nervous of letting someone else market it. I have done that with another site, was promised he'd make us loads so I could give up working full time. I got about $1000 over a year from him and that was hard work! He just didnt bother! Ive also been 'had' by a couple of other people promising things and not delivering. Sorry but Im just a bit nervous! I really want to make the most of the site too...

[Cardinal_Sin]

Thanks, but Im nervous of letting someone else market it. I have done that with another site, was promised he'd make us loads so I could give up working full time. I got about $1000 over a year from him and that was hard work! He just didnt bother! Ive also been 'had' by a couple of other people promising things and not delivering. Sorry but Im just a bit nervous! I really want to make the most of the site too...

You have almost hit the nail on the head here, Rachael. Marketing. But not marketing the site to surfers - It is far more profitable marketing the site to webmasters.
As jt rightly says, content is what sells, and you have great, unique content that the surfer wants - He will pay the asking price because it is what he wants.
It pays far more to get 50% of each sale when the site is set up correctly and webmasters can see easy sales, than having zero webmasters and you doing everything for 100% of each sale.
Let the webmasters get your sales, and you concentrate on managing the site - Easier work and far more profitable!

[JT]

Thanks, but Im nervous of letting someone else market it. I have done that with another site, was promised he'd make us loads so I could give up working full time. I got about $1000 over a year from him and that was hard work! He just didnt bother! Ive also been 'had' by a couple of other people promising things and not delivering. Sorry but Im just a bit nervous! I really want to make the most of the site too...

I can understand your concerns, there are a ton of webmasters who think they can bring sales, but really cant do shit. Would you be interested in selling the content on a non exclusive basis or an exclusive basis?

[UK Rachel]

If I make the new clean tour, does it still need to have the warning page? Surely if someone is clicking on the affiliate tour they know its going to be an adult site and its not needed? Or is it?!

[mOBSCENE]

I haven't come across a sponsor yet whose link goes to a warning page. If surfers are viewing a gallery of pics/movies, or clicking on a banner, either of which is suggesting "more of the same here", imho this doesn't need a warning page, because the surfer is already viewing adult content. Some sponsors will offer links that go direct to the join page, etc.

BTW, have you checked your pm?

[mellenig]

That would be your choice, I like my links to be able to get to the main tour page from say a gallery page but a warning page from banners depending where I have them hosted on my site.

Why not build it and leave it to the affiliate where to link too you can do that with the ccbill affiliate program

[UK Rachel]

Well, I've done it!

http://www.uk-bukkake.com/tour1.htm

Is that OK do you think? What changes should I make? Ive probably done it totally wrong!!!

[mellenig]

Looks good :thumbsup: Ill change to that tour and start sending you more traffic :)

[JT]

OK Rachal I'll give it a go, can you give me 10 sets of 12 series pics, So I can make 10 different galleries from 10 different shoots all with 12 pics in them?

[UK Rachel]

OK Rachal I'll give it a go, can you give me 10 sets of 12 series pics, So I can make 10 different galleries from 10 different shoots all with 12 pics in them?

Ok Ill sort them out for you now.
xx

[UK Rachel]

Looks good :thumbsup: Ill change to that tour and start sending you more traffic :)

Thank you!
:thumbsup:

[stouch]

Well the tour did it for me. I am really of the opinion that an amateur type tour can sometimes do wonders if backed up by nice pics.

[mellenig]

Ok Ill sort them out for you now.
xx

Would it be possible to have the same? thanks

[UK Rachel]

Would it be possible to have the same? thanks

Yeah, Im just sorting them now and then I'll put them onto my site and send you the URL for the folder?
Rachel
x

[mOBSCENE]

Be handy for me too.

[UK Rachel]

OK guys, http://www.uk-bukkake.com/Galleries.zip

Thank you for all your help

Love Rachel
xx

[JT]

OK guys, http://www.uk-bukkake.com/Galleries.zip

Thank you for all your help

Love Rachel
xx

Perfect. Do you also do fansigns Rachel? Im looking for fan signs for this site http://www.exhibitionists-uk.com

[mOBSCENE]

Thanks Rachel

[mellenig]

:) Thanks

[Shandy McAndy]

I want to come to one of your parties they look like fun :mad:

[UK Rachel]

Perfect. Do you also do fansigns Rachel? Im looking for fan signs for this site http://www.exhibitionists-uk.com

Ive never done one yet, but as I always say, Never say Never!

What exactly do you need?
Rach
x

[JT]

Ive never done one yet, but as I always say, Never say Never!

What exactly do you need?
Rach
x

Something like these please http://www4.kinghost.com/asian/exhibitionists/fansigns/index.html It helps me also sell memberships if my surfers know your real

[chilihost]

another friendly welcome to ya.

cheers,
Luke

[PayAsYouClick]

What a fantastic thread (other than some daft bickering)

Rachel came here to introduce herself, and ended up getting some really worthwhile advice. She acted on it, and has ended up with some excellent new affiliates, and a more marketable site that's bound to benefit her and her existing affiliates.

How long would you need to read GFY to see that happen?

More power to this board.

Danny

[JT]

What a fantastic thread (other than some daft bickering)

Rachel came here to introduce herself, and ended up getting some really worthwhile advice. She acted on it, and has ended up with some excellent new affiliates, and a more marketable site that's bound to benefit her and her existing affiliates.

How long would you need to read GFY to see that happen?

More power to this board.

Danny

Power to the UK webmasters uniting to fight the world :onguard:

Plus have a few beers :drink:

[Bluey]

Great post and some good info and tips regarding good tours and traffic leaks

Keep up the great work

All the best Bluey

[a1ka1ine]

To me it sounded like you wanted some preferential treatment.
We would all like cleaner tours and higher payouts but they are paying us and we have to either accept their tour/payouts or don't promote them.
If she has been running her site for as long as she says then it's clear people are willing to pay what is asked and affiliates are prepared to accept the pay structure.

affiliates have the power not sponsors, when i go to promote people i set the terms - if you really have something to offer it shouldnt be any other way!

:onguard:

[a1ka1ine]

Damn Rachel, can't have that. I'll join up to your program and see if we can make some money together :thumbsup:

omg - you post here? hi there hehe :D

[a1ka1ine]

nice too see a happy ending :) that content is valuable!

[-HF]

How long would you need to read GFY to see that happen?

More power to this board.

Danny


while i agree with the sentiment, i also have to say, comparing oneself to the worst example is bound to make one look good. ;)

[mOBSCENE]

omg - you post here? hi there hehe :D

Yeah, I seem to get around :guinness:

[cock-a-leekie]

affiliates have the power not sponsors, when i go to promote people i set the terms - if you really have something to offer it shouldnt be any other way!

:onguard:

Really?
Go in with that attitude sunshine and I for one won't be suppling you.

Respect goes both ways and it's not about power, it's just business.

[cock-a-leekie]

OK guys, http://www.uk-bukkake.com/Galleries.zip

Thank you for all your help

Love Rachel
xx

A word in your shell like if I may,
Now everyone and their dog has just downloaded your promo packs and while most webmasters have honourable intentions I wouldn't recommend offering your promotional content as a free for all.

It would be wise to check out your potential promotional clients before giving any tom dick or harry what they desperately need - free content.

Remember, most webmasters don't produce and without content they have nothing to promote, so good exclusive content is fucking gold.
You should look after it more wisely.

[UK Rachel]

A word in your shell like if I may,
Now everyone and their dog has just downloaded your promo packs and while most webmasters have honourable intentions I wouldn't recommend offering your promotional content as a free for all.

It would be wise to check out your potential promotional clients before giving any tom dick or harry what they desperately need - free content.

Remember, most webmasters don't produce and without content they have nothing to promote, so good exclusive content is fucking gold.
You should look after it more wisely.


I disagree. I was posting my link to people here who asked for it. My site is cosnstantly getting hacked and my content stollen, I see it all over the place. So it really makes no difference if I post it here or not!

[-HF]

I disagree. I was posting my link to people here who asked for it. My site is cosnstantly getting hacked and my content stollen, I see it all over the place. So it really makes no difference if I post it here or not!

so if your house gets broken into, you open the door and the windows while placing your valuables on the front lawn rather than getting a better lock and an alarm system?

[NumptyNuts]

There are no popups on uk-bukkake.com at all.

I dont think I can have a higher join price, I struggle like mad to get people to join now and Im not doing very well at all.
:mad:


Hi Rachel,

I have been promoting you for a while now - mainly from this page

http://www.smithslookup.co.uk/bukkake/rachel/1/index-sm.htm

As JT has said I too was worried though did my own tour and linked directly your join page.

In terms of you price personally I think its too low, you have very niche content and beleive me price will not be an issue. What you could also do is set up a second billing screen without trials / single sign up offerings, this WILL build rebills.

Looking at my sales with you the surfer tends to opt for a trial or a single sale, its cheaper to buy a 90 day pas then go for a monthly membership.

basically if you give me and other affiliates a $29.99 Monthly membership and nothing else then thats what people will pay to join.

Basically in an ideal world your foucs should be on retention and the affiliates on selling the 'tickets'.

Selling single joins and trials never got anyone anywhere, you're exclusive, you site is exclusive so don't devalue yourself :-)

BTW I'm pleased with the results I have had so far

[stouch]

I disagree. I was posting my link to people here who asked for it. My site is cosnstantly getting hacked and my content stollen, I see it all over the place. So it really makes no difference if I post it here or not!

$100 invested in strongbox would possibly be a wise move.

[cock-a-leekie]

I disagree. I was posting my link to people here who asked for it. My site is cosnstantly getting hacked and my content stollen, I see it all over the place. So it really makes no difference if I post it here or not!

Hmmmm….. I’ve never really looked at it like that before. I’m not sure on the logic of what you’re saying though, I’d be inclined to keep a tighter rein on things from now on, if it were me.

Well this is my unbiased advice (which you’ll only get from another producer in my experience):

I’m not saying don’t have affiliates, it’s just that I think you’d do well to vet each prospective affiliate first and then send them the link to your promo content after you’ve established whether or not you agree with their business practices.

I hope you understand the point I'm trying to make. The reason I even bothered to post it is that I think you don't quite realise the potential value of what you have, and the mileage still left in it.

---Martin.

[Mattyboy]

$100 invested in strongbox would possibly be a wise move.

Agreed.

[JT]

Just got my first sale today, after 1 day and just a few hits, havnt even started putting anything in my system yet. Which I'll start this weekend

So worth a post here and the few changes you made I think, hopefully your sales should start picking up Rachel :drink:

[aphrophoto]

If your still following this thread Rachel I also reccomend getting strongbox. When I first started my paysite I had a couple of members post their passwords on sites which blew my bandwith out of the water. Since getting strongbox installed its stopped all that. For a price Ray Morris (who designed the prog) even installs it for you.