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Geezer
09-25-07, 11:11 PM
ITV now

Geezer
09-25-07, 11:14 PM
Actually what is the difference between a "porn star" and a "prostitute" ?

redwhiteandblue
09-25-07, 11:19 PM
£50 per hour.

badbee
09-25-07, 11:20 PM
Is it a joke?

These women aren't my cup of tea so far, hopefully will improve, though the black one with the mask on looked good, not good enough to pay for though.

Geezer
09-25-07, 11:28 PM
Is it a joke?

These women aren't my cup of tea so far, hopefully will improve, though the black one with the mask on looked good, not good enough to pay for though.

They mentioned that bel de jour blog, there is a new seriosu starting with Billy Piper based on this blog ;)

badbee
09-25-07, 11:33 PM
They mentioned that bel de jour blog, there is a new seriosu starting with Billy Piper based on this blog ;)

Yep Thursday night, just advertised it. Think it's only meant for people with TV licenses though ;)

hentaibee
09-25-07, 11:36 PM
well some pornstars do escort, some dont, all depending on the market.

Geezer
09-25-07, 11:40 PM
well some pornstars do escort, some dont, all depending on the market.

So what is the difference?

A man or a woman get paid for sex, they are a prostitute, make it into a film then they are "actors"

Willie_Ekkerslike
09-25-07, 11:40 PM
Do any offer a Free Trial?

Geezer
09-25-07, 11:41 PM
Yep Thursday night, just advertised it. Think it's only meant for people with TV licenses though ;)

Nah, its on ITV so all paid for by advertising ;)

AllRuth
09-25-07, 11:45 PM
Anyone read the Belle de Jour book? It was the dullest read. I'm sure there's some 50 year old writer, who's never been paid for sex in their life, who's sniggering somewhere that so many people bought into a complete work of fiction.

Geezer
09-25-07, 11:52 PM
Anyone read the Belle de Jour book? It was the dullest read. I'm sure there's some 50 year old writer, who's never been paid for sex in their life, who's sniggering somewhere that so many people bought into a complete work of fiction.

Never heard of it until the Billy Piper thing, but on this documentary it seems that most feel like you do. Its a John Titor thing by the sounds of it ;)

hentaibee
09-25-07, 11:56 PM
well duh, of course if it gets filmed they are actors, becuase a movie is staged.
and then the woman is most ofthe time not paid by the guy screwing her :)

these are the most basic differences from my point of view.

Another difference in the aspect of porn might be that the sex is always depicted as sensationally hot and the main thing in loving.

i dont see porn with caressing often.

Geezer
09-25-07, 11:58 PM
well duh, of course if it gets filmed they are actors, becuase a movie is staged.
and then the woman is most ofthe time not paid by the guy screwing her :)

these are the most basic differences from my point of view.

Another difference in the aspect of porn might be that the sex is always depicted as sensationally hot and the main thing in loving.

i dont see porn with caressing often.

So a prostitute who just goes through the motions (acting) is different how?

These women on this TV programme are calling themselves "escorts", pornstars call themselves "actors", I am still waiting to hear what the difference is. Surely they are all prostitutes?

"1. a woman who engages in sexual intercourse for money; whore; harlot.
2. a man who engages in sexual acts for money."

badbee
09-26-07, 12:05 AM
So a prostitute who just goes through the motions (acting) is different how?

These women on this TV programme are calling themselves "escorts", pornstars call themselves "actors", I am still waiting to hear what the difference is. Surely they are all prostitutes?

I've often thought the same, it would be interesting to get a response from one of the "actors" that posts on here.

I guess one argument may be that porn actors and escorts have a bit more choice as to who they sleep with, whereas I guess most prostitutes just see blokes as a punter regardless.

I don't have a problem with any of the three, people should be allowed to do what they want imo.

Geezer
09-26-07, 12:11 AM
I've often thought the same, it would be interesting to get a response from one of the "actors" that posts on here.

I guess one argument may be that porn actors and escorts have a bit more choice as to who they sleep with, whereas I guess most prostitutes just see blokes as a punter regardless.

I don't have a problem with any of the three, people should be allowed to do what they want imo.

I don't think a "model/actress" could be booked for a shoot and then decide they "didn't fancy the bloke" so called it off. Well I suppose they could but how long would it take before they wouldn't get booked for being "fussy"?

"Escorts" don't get to see the bloke beforehand so when they actually meet they are already tied into the deal, again she could refuse but how long would she stay in business.

At the end of the day its about money for these women and I don't think it matters who it is they are fucking as long as they get paid, the more the pay the rougher the men can be.

Willie_Ekkerslike
09-26-07, 12:16 AM
Attitudes and views have changed a great deal. When I started in this business, trading traffic between an Amateur Site and an Escort Site was like pushing a piece of rope up hill. The Amateur Web Girls didn’t really want to be associated with Escorts and vice (sorry no pun intended) versa.

Then we find that the Amateur Web Girls were saying “well im getting paid to have sex for content so why not become an Escort!”

Similarly the Escorts were saying “if these Web Girls can become Escorts then I can have a subscription Web Site”

Before this time im not saying that there wasnt a cross over, just that it wasn’t anywhere near so open as it is now.

A Priest
09-26-07, 12:20 AM
prostitute = 1 way payment
porn star = both paid

thats my take on it

Geezer
09-26-07, 12:22 AM
prostitute = 1 way payment
porn star = both paid

thats my take on it

So if I book 2 prostitutes and pay them both to have sex with each other they are no longer prostitutes?

Willie_Ekkerslike
09-26-07, 12:23 AM
So if I book 2 prostitutes and pay them both to have sex with each other they are no longer prostitutes?

LOL dunno but can i film it?

Geezer
09-26-07, 12:25 AM
LOL dunno but can i film it?

They are male prostitutes, you still interested? :gaylords:

Willie_Ekkerslike
09-26-07, 12:26 AM
They are male prostitutes, you still interested? :gaylords:

Actually im a bit busy at the moment, you know how it is !!!

Geezer
09-26-07, 12:27 AM
Actually im a bit busy at the moment, you know how it is !!!

:takethat:

AllRuth
09-26-07, 12:29 AM
LOL dunno but can i film it?

Haha :takethat:

WordsforHire
09-26-07, 12:37 AM
I'm watching pretty woman - god I love that film, only seen it for like the first time last year :)

Willie_Ekkerslike
09-26-07, 12:47 AM
So a film guy or web site guy offers me 50 quid to turn up at a Karaoke, hang on, no, that other Jap word! And plonk a pop shot on a chicks chops, would that make me a Prostitute?

nizla
09-26-07, 01:21 AM
Being a prostitute / escort is a completely different psychological state to being a porn star.

Generally speaking if you're a pornstar you either know who you're working with or know of them and they're clean / washed. Before you start you know what's going to happen and the other person is already tested for disease. If you don't want to do a scene with a certain person you don't have to, you speak to your agent and they deal with it.

...none of that is the same for prostitutes is it?

S.D.
09-26-07, 08:18 AM
Actually what is the difference between a "porn star" and a "prostitute" ?

What is the difference between an "Adult Webmaster" & a "Pimp" ? ;)

NumptyNuts
09-26-07, 08:22 AM
All the women feature were non english hookers, they may charge stupid money though they still sleep with people for sex.

Prositution is the oldest buinsess in the world - as the ladies them selves said a few tims in the documentry - So I guess thats an admission that they they are prostitutes.

Any how was crap - wasted of time watching why that lass sat in mask when her pictures are on the web I will never know.

Simon
09-26-07, 08:29 AM
Anyone read the Belle de Jour book? It was the dullest read. I'm sure there's some 50 year old writer, who's never been paid for sex in their life, who's sniggering somewhere that so many people bought into a complete work of fiction.I was going to say that. Only I'd say it's written by a convent school educated, head girl type, who also hasn't even had sex, let alone been paid for it!

And anyway, it was an uplift, not implants!

Geezer
09-26-07, 12:17 PM
What is the difference between an "Adult Webmaster" & a "Pimp" ? ;)

An adult webmaster sells images of porn, usually made by other people.

A pimp sells a girl for sex ;)

-HF
09-26-07, 01:18 PM
What is the difference between an "Adult Webmaster" & a "Pimp" ? ;)

the same difference as between a pimp and a newsagent.

TGITC
09-26-07, 02:16 PM
My take on it, is that a girl involved in ANY type of actual sex... (Not just posing naked) is by definition, part of the sex industry.
In other words they make a living by selling sex.
Either the idea of it in pics and videos, OR actually doing it 1-on-1 in an escort situation...
Although the girls (and guys) may see it differently... (And that's their prerogative) they still work in the sex industry. Period.

It just depends on what 'areas' of the industry they decide to work in... The more areas, the more money...
A bit like if you opened a newsagents, you wouldn't just sell one paper... ie 'The Sun'...
You would sell the whole range. Times, Telegraph, Mirror etc etc...
Although you could just sell one... You wouldn't make the same money as the shop next door that sold all the papers... But that would be up to you...

Either way. You are both newsagents... Just the same as all sex industry workers are, by definition, prostituting themselves...

So, in my opinion, there really is 'No' difference... Although, as I say, those doing t will no doubt disagree...

Bernice
09-26-07, 06:49 PM
I dont know- weirldy I was happy to work as an escort and as a Dominatric but would never pose for hardcore stuff.

Its a different mindset I think. To be honest when I was fucking a punter I would be thinking about other stuff but you have to be a good actress to make any money on the game. Its different for street girls at the rough end of the market but as an escort the client is shelling out serious money and not unaturally wants a decent service.

I wasnt a super looker so I made my biz as an escort by being classy and providing a nice venue, a few drinks, buffet, happy to run a conversation with whatever interests the client, show some warmth and interest and then do the sex with style.

I cant speak for other ecsorts - most of my clientele were pretty well to do, monied, usually nice enough guys. Either rich enough not to worry about blowing £200-£300 on a little fun or else of modest meams but buying in for other reasons ( wife wont come across being the big one of course or else wife wont do a particular service-mostly BJs and anal ).

An escoprt of course is a sort of fantasy much like a porn film - the clients seeing me dressed and made up to my flat out best, at ease, always smiling, always ready for sex and ( to their eye anyway ) willing to do all kinds of things.

Someone said you cant reject clients as an escort cos its bad for business- I'd seldom reject guys because to me its a service and you cant be too picky but there are ones and twos I have put back usually because they didndt show me any respect OR were unhygenic.

I have friends who work the game and would never appear on film, I have friends who will shag guys on film but would never consider the game. A pornstar is of course safer - there are people around but most of my porsitute friends actually make more money than most of my porn performer friends.

Geezer
09-27-07, 11:23 AM
Whats the difference between a prostitiute and a hollywood starlet who marries a rich well known actor for a few months and then divorces him and receives a millon pounds settlement.

Keith
www.theedgemodels.co.uk :character0088:

I don't know, what is difference between a prostitiute and a hollywood starlet who marries a rich well known actor for a few months and then divorces him and receives a millon pounds settlement.

WordsforHire
09-27-07, 11:28 AM
You forgot your question mark... Here it is...

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Geezer
09-27-07, 11:39 AM
You forgot your question mark... Here it is...

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Oh yeah, it must have fell down

Simon
09-27-07, 11:53 AM
I don't know, what is difference between a prostitiute and a hollywood starlet who marries a rich well known actor for a few months and then divorces him and receives a millon pounds settlement.Too easy. A million pounds.

AllRuth
09-27-07, 12:16 PM
Too easy. A million pounds.

:takethat:

wingless
09-27-07, 03:48 PM
personally i think the main diffrence is that (and correct me if im wrong) to be a pornstar you have to have regular std checks

and of course sex for money on film is legal and if its not on film its not :p

redwhiteandblue
09-27-07, 04:02 PM
and of course sex for money on film is legal and if its not on film its not :p

Are you sure?

-HF
09-27-07, 04:07 PM
personally i think the main diffrence is that (and correct me if im wrong) to be a pornstar you have to have regular std checks

and of course sex for money on film is legal and if its not on film its not :p

a prostitute who doesn't have regular STD tests should have her labia nailed to a tree.

wingless
09-27-07, 04:11 PM
Are you sure?

well as far as i was aware pornstars are legal and prostitiution wasent, thats why escorts are only paid for there time. im not 100% on this tho

redwhiteandblue
09-27-07, 04:18 PM
It is not in fact illegal to receive money in exchange for sex.

redwhiteandblue
09-27-07, 04:21 PM
a prostitute who doesn't have regular STD tests should have her labia nailed to a tree.

Unless she's one of those "nail my labia to a tree" escorts, then you'd have to find some other way of punishing her.

wingless
09-27-07, 04:36 PM
It is not in fact illegal to receive money in exchange for sex.

then why on all escort sites ive seen does it say u pay for there time only? and services are offered in code. ie cim and owo?

WordsforHire
09-27-07, 04:55 PM
then why on all escort sites ive seen does it say u pay for there time only? and services are offered in code. ie cim and owo?
MORE acronyms?! Ok lemme have a go

Custard in Minge

Oral with Ostrich


?!?! Did I get it right huh huh huh?

AllRuth
09-27-07, 05:00 PM
then why on all escort sites ive seen does it say u pay for there time only? and services are offered in code. ie cim and owo?

Paying for sex isn't illegal but there are strict rules around solicitation.

WordsforHire
09-27-07, 05:18 PM
Paying for sex isn't illegal but there are strict rules around solicitation.
Put that AV back before I hurt you...

AllRuth
09-27-07, 05:21 PM
Put that AV back before I hurt you...

Shan't :P You're going to have to make me ;)

redwhiteandblue
09-27-07, 05:23 PM
Shan't :P You're going to have to make me ;)

-popcorn-

WordsforHire
09-27-07, 05:27 PM
Shan't :P You're going to have to make me ;)
I do LOVE a challenge of this nature...You wait till I get you in London muahahah ;)

-HF
09-27-07, 05:42 PM
AV

Anal Violator ?

AllRuth
09-27-07, 05:49 PM
I do LOVE a challenge of this nature...You wait till I get you in London muahahah ;)

Not if I get you first. Mwah ha ha :devil:

WordsforHire
09-27-07, 05:53 PM
Not if I get you first. Mwah ha ha :devil:
Oh oh oh is that a promise?!?!

Bernice
09-27-07, 06:47 PM
I used to be an escort and I never really was terribly sure of the legalisties but basically its not illegal to sell sex for money. It is illegal to solicit for sex though and also illegal to live off the earnings of a prostitute.

There are other rules also about keeping brothels or bawdy houses.

Most laws on prostitution were bought in to protect the girls from the people who prey on them - pimps for instance. In most cases the police have used those laws to hound the girls and to make life riskier for them.

The classic example is if I am working and I hire a maid to help keep me safe - or a minder come to that - THEY can be nicked for living off immoral earnings. Thats generally what the police have done - nick the associates and make it impossible for the girl. Similarly if I work with another girl in the same place I am in the laws eyes guilty of keeping a brothel and thats offence.

So it all makes the girl work alone and at risk - personally I think the laws dumb. I am happy to sell sex, some guys are happy to buy it - whos geting hurt ?

Like all working girls though I'd want a massive crack down on human traficking and forced prostitution - people shouldnt ever HAVE to work the game like that. And of course it goes without saying that anyone using, procuring, running child prostitutes should be getting a serious hammering.

badbee
10-04-07, 11:00 PM
They mentioned that bel de jour blog, there is a new seriosu starting with Billy Piper based on this blog ;)


It's a bit shite though isn't it :(

Geezer
10-04-07, 11:39 PM
It's a bit shite though isn't it :(


You actually watched it?

blunt
10-05-07, 11:55 AM
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