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smoothballs
09-19-07, 05:42 PM
The reason im asking a female friend who escaped a abusive husband asked me cos her son still lives with his dad and she wants to give her son her email address so she has to be careful. They are in different towns so not as if the will bump into each other. I couldnt tell her for definite that someone can, dont your ip address show in the header of a email if you got the brains to double click it! Im also sure that if you use the email from your ISP then they are not allowed to have your details for all to view. I just wanna be able to tell her 100% yes it safe or no, dont do it :)

ApacheAnderson
09-19-07, 05:45 PM
Could she not setup a free gmail account and put in false details just in case?

smoothballs
09-19-07, 05:50 PM
was thinking of hotmail...just put a address like in the usa or something...by the way shes in contact with him on mobile phone and they do meet from time to time in the town she lives in but cannot take him home to hers in case his dad tries to get her address out of him :( I even let them have my flat for the night so she could have her son down! we swopped keys, i stayed at hers.

Geezer
09-19-07, 05:59 PM
Send her to www.safe-mail.net only details you need to give is a username and password ;)

Damian
09-19-07, 06:04 PM
Important thing to remember is nothing is safe with computers.

Kevin Mitnick (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Mitnick) was asked if a computer was secure if it was unplugged from all connectivity and locked in a safe. He replied that it wasn't because he could just ring someone and persuade them to plug it in for him.

If he is determined enough, he can find out. Sadly.

Although using Geezer's suggestion is a good bet.

Remember to make sure the password is not obvious and has a good mix of uppercase/lowercase/numericals etc.

smoothballs
09-19-07, 06:06 PM
ok cheers guys and geezer for the link will pass it on to her :)

REBEL
09-19-07, 07:39 PM
why on earth escape an abusive asshole but leave your kid there..

WordsforHire
09-19-07, 07:40 PM
why on earth escape an abusive asshole but leave your kid there..
Sometimes people don't have a choice...Long and complicated situation and a very very very sad one too :(

Bernice
09-19-07, 07:48 PM
Be wary - hotmail is cool so long as you dont fill out the profile.

Someone though sent me a shitload of abusive email - came from an NTL servery and NTL had an alatrming habit of having your email addy linked to your NTL account and personal website so easy to find that the REAL name was Sue.Roberts@NTL. Then simple enough to call NTL and spoof them I was the account holder ( dumbo call centre staff ) gave me arough address - simple then to find the full address.

If your using Hotmail through a decent sized ISP you as close to untraceable as possible ( ALL Tiscali fixed ISPs for instance show as originating from Bristol ) BUT you cant ever be too careful about stuff and as already said if someone is detsrmined, motivated and has skills or access to skills they can track you.

REBEL
09-19-07, 07:57 PM
Sometimes people don't have a choice...Long and complicated situation and a very very very sad one too :(

Sorry you are never going to convince me that escaping from an abusive household yourself and leaving your child in it, is in any way excusable. Even if the worst that's happening to the child is that they're being taught (by example) is to be an abusive ass themselves.

There's nothing long and complicated about it. You keep your kids safe, and you teach them the golden rule, and you remove people from their lives that threaten those two objectives, no matter who those people are. End of.

WordsforHire
09-19-07, 11:13 PM
Sorry you are never going to convince me that escaping from an abusive household yourself and leaving your child in it, is in any way excusable. Even if the worst that's happening to the child is that they're being taught (by example) is to be an abusive ass themselves.

There's nothing long and complicated about it. You keep your kids safe, and you teach them the golden rule, and you remove people from their lives that threaten those two objectives, no matter who those people are. End of.
Sometimes it's not your choice. I couldn't care less about convincing people :)

-HF
09-20-07, 03:30 PM
Sometimes it's not your choice.

i'm hooked now.

clearly as male i cannot image what situation would make a woman leave an abusive relationship but leave a child behind. for a woman to lose custody, she must fuck up massively in western countries, so what other reason could there be? one valid example will suffice. cheers.

WordsforHire
09-20-07, 03:37 PM
i'm hooked now.

clearly as male i cannot image what situation would make a woman leave an abusive relationship but leave a child behind. for a woman to lose custody, she must fuck up massively in western countries, so what other reason could there be? one valid example will suffice. cheers.
It's not my business to explain anyones private lifes.

-HF
09-20-07, 03:41 PM
It's not my business to explain anyones private lifes.

no one asked you to explain anyone's life. you claim there are situations where it's OK for a woman to run away from an abusive relationship and leave their child behind.

you not providing a scenario does tell us what that claim is worth. :)

WordsforHire
09-20-07, 03:50 PM
I don't need to :)

-HF
09-20-07, 04:00 PM
I don't need to :)

of course not dear, it tells us enough already. :)

smoothballs
09-20-07, 06:06 PM
for your info her son was asked who he wanted to live with and bright kid he is, decided he would "financially" be better off staying with his dad. She was in a refuge for a while till she got allocated somewhere. Its a gutwrench for her not being able to see him every day but least her son has a living mother rather then a dead one...theres more to it thats just too long to explain.

just wanna point out he was abusive to her not the kid

keithwoo
09-20-07, 07:56 PM
I think they can look up address with cell phone number also. Not sure but i think you can do it. If he wants to find her address i think he could.

smoothballs
09-20-07, 08:02 PM
he knows the town she lives in,even bought the son down with him to hand over to her for the day i have been there at a discreet distance to keep a eye out for her, to be honest dont think the guy has the brains to find out! plus he has a new partner anyway but she cant be complacent, this is the fear abused women that have escaped have, is he still trying to hunt me down or not?