Surprised its not on here yet. Bomb found in London!

[Scottybuzz]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6252276.stm
Police have disabled a car bomb containing gas cylinders in the heart of central London.
Officers carried out a controlled explosion after reports of a suspicious vehicle parked in Haymarket shortly before 0200 BST (0100 GMT).

The area was cordoned off while police examined what they described as a "potentially viable explosive device".


Pretty serious stuff.
First questions I ask is - who was it?
What type of Gas in the cylinders?
Any more?

By the way, sorry if its a repost.

[bluefox]

My hubby works near Oxford Circus & left this morning without knowing about all this. He will definitely be affected.

More worryingly, are there any more devices planted anywhere? If this is a terrorist attack previous attemps have involved more than one device.

[psl]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6252276.stm



Pretty serious stuff.
First questions I ask is - who was it?
What type of Gas in the cylinders?
Any more?

By the way, sorry if its a repost.


Propane gas, with bags of nails around it, absolutely fuckin lethal.
Very worrying.:reading:

[fetishlad]

Latest news:

they suspect it was an al-quada atyle attempt.

So the work of our lovely muslim community. Great!, lets just have more muslims immigrate into our country!

[bluefox]

Latest news:

they suspect it was an al-quada atyle attempt.

So the work of our lovely muslim community. Great!, lets just have more muslims immigrate into our country!

Our country is crippled by political correctness!

[mOBSCENE]

Funny how the new cabinet/prime minister has a renewed terrorist threat to bang on about all of a sudden, probably got a bunch of new parking laws they want to bring in - no parking in Central London, in case it's a car bomb? :P

[fetishlad]

Well I find these radical islamists not so political correct.

What amazes me is that (like in the case of the july 7 and july 23 bombers) this community, sleeps, eats, socialises AND prays with them in their mosques but NEVER come forward to prevent these attacks on our way of life!

Now I just have to wait to be called a "racist" for saying this by some political correct a**e-wipe (even though there are white and black muslims)

And, yes, I am angry yet again, because I live 400 yards from Haymarket, this car was travelling TOWARDS where I live, I only realise now that I could have been bombed this night and maybe not survive, this attack literally was on my doorstep.

I hope our new PM Brown gets his 90 day detention and better deportation laws in, we have to deal with and crush these islamo-fascists now before they grow even more in numbers.

[xcite-tv]

Now I just have to wait to be called a "racist" for saying this by some political correct a**e-wipe (even though there are white and black muslims)


Dont worry one will be along very soon

[psl]

Well I find these radical islamists not so political correct.

What amazes me is that (like in the case of the july 7 and july 23 bombers) this community, sleeps, eats, socialises AND prays with them in their mosques but NEVER come forward to prevent these attacks on our way of life!

Now I just have to wait to be called a "racist" for saying this by some political correct a**e-wipe (even though there are white and black muslims)

And, yes, I am angry yet again, because I live 400 yards from Haymarket, this car was travelling TOWARDS where I live, I only realise now that I could have been bombed this night and maybe not survive, this attack literally was on my doorstep.

I hope our new PM Brown gets his 90 day detention and better deportation laws in, we have to deal with and crush these islamo-fascists now before they grow even more in numbers.


You where lucky then fetishlad.
No you're not a racist you are quite right.
Political correctness is all bollocks.
A muslim will never shop and other muslim, terrorist or not but they will go screaming racial abuse to the police if you call them a "b****k cunt" or something similar that is derogatory to them, poor souls..........................:osama :rambo:

Sticks and stones and all that.................

[strictlybroadband]

I reckon it's the CIA. Or the Jews.

[mOBSCENE]

I reckon it's the CIA. Or the Jews.

May be Iranians, would be a good excuse to go after Iran so Brown can forge Blair-like rapport with the US?

[strictlybroadband]

they will go screaming racial abuse to the police if you call them a "b****k cunt" or something similar that is derogatory to them

Has this ever actually happened? Or did you make it up?

[xcite-tv]

Dont worry one will be along very soon

told you ......

[psl]

Has this ever actually happened? Or did you make it up?

It happens a lot in Oldham, the muslims think they own the fuckin place and when they can't get their own way they go scream racial abuse.

[strictlybroadband]

It happens a lot in Oldham, the muslims think they own the fuckin place and when they can't get their own way they go scream racial abuse.

That sounds terrible. Something needs to be done. Do you have any news items you can post of any actual instances of this happening?

[strictlybroadband]

May be Iranians, would be a good excuse to go after Iran so Brown can forge Blair-like rapport with the US?

The only problem being we're getting our arses kicked in Afghanistan and Iraq, and those are just wussy little countries. Iran would be much tougher - i.e. Brown would be presiding over a slaughter of British troops if he did that.

[mOBSCENE]

The only problem being we're getting our arses kicked in Afghanistan and Iraq, and those are just wussy little countries. Iran would be much tougher - i.e. Brown would be presiding over a slaughter of British troops if he did that.

Might just send a few nukes then, in the interests of world peace and freedom, of course :noway2:

[psl]

You know what Strictly I think we should agree to disagree, OK.
You support the people form Iran,Iraq,Afghanistan and gods knows how many other countries, who either live in their own country or are here in the UK, legally or illegally.
I, on the other hand don't support the above countries because they support terrorist activities in one form or another.
I support our troops , you don't.

If you think the the UK is such a big bad nasty place because of its policies then fuck off and live in Iran or one of the other countires you love to defend.
Transfer your business there and see hpw tolerant they are then.

As I said lets agree to disagree and not discuss this the topics of race and or religion of the above conutries because I'm sure its getting boring for the board members as well as me.

Be lucky........:P

[mOBSCENE]

This thread will look well daft if it turns out it was some white Christian nut who's been watching Rambo :)

[bluefox]

This thread will look well daft if it turns out it was some white Christian nut who's been watching Rambo

True, but as likely as me winning the lottery (& I don't even do it!) :takethat:

[strictlybroadband]

I support our troops , you don't.

Sure, let's agree to disagree, but let me correct you:

1) I support our troops - they shouldn't be getting killed and maimed in a war fought on behalf of the oil and gas industry. Bring them home - that's the only way to support them.

2) Although I oppose British foreign policy I've never expressed any support for any other country - you're mistaken.

You should learn a bit of history and geography, then I'll be happy to continue the discussion.

[Benny_MN]

If you think the the UK is such a big bad nasty place because of its policies then fuck off


PSL - the irony of this is it's actually you moaning about the UK's policies, not SB.


A muslim will never shop and other muslim, terrorist or not but they will go screaming racial abuse to the police if you call them a "b****k cunt" or something similar that is derogatory to them, poor souls........................

And I also don't see where he said he doesnt support our troops.

Ever thought about taking your own advice and moving to the deep south? I think you may be happier there.

http://www.californiaconservative.org/images/images2/_kkk.jpg

[Willie_Ekkerslike]

Strange !!

Ive had Sky News on since about 10.15 and there has been no coverage concerning flooding, so good to know that this is no longer an issue for many people, NOT !

[fetishlad]

It wouldn't surprise me if some nutcase comes out with a statement that they did this because Salman Rushdi got knighted.

Wasn't it the Pakistan government that said suicide bombs would come from this? And aren't our Pakistani friends who live here in Britain more loyal to their Pakistani MUSLIM friends than us?

If Margaret Thatcher was still our PM, she would have nuked the hell out of Pakistan for remarks like that ... oh, how I long for the "good old days ..." (and I am not even a Tory!)

[ukwebmasters]

:cheer: militant tories :cheer:

[strictlybroadband]

Wasn't it the Pakistan government that said suicide bombs would come from this? And aren't our Pakistani friends who live here in Britain more loyal to their Pakistani MUSLIM friends than us?

Yes. The BNP say so, so it must be true.

[Willie_Ekkerslike]

Nuke the basterds might be a bit extreme!

But let's face it, current policy is doing sweet FA!

[fetishlad]

To strictlybroadband ...
If I have to choose now between BNP and islam ....

[bluefox]

Yes. The BNP say so, so it must be true.

No, not the BNP, the BBC

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/6763119.stm

[strictlybroadband]

To strictlybroadband ...
If I have to choose now between BNP and islam ....

But that's the great thing about living in a free country. You don't have to choose between them. Think for yourself, don't be a :shaun:

[JT]

If you think the the UK is such a big bad nasty place because of its policies then fuck off and live in Iran or one of the other countires you love to defend.
Transfer your business there and see hpw tolerant they are then.

If you think the UK is such a big bad place because of immigration policies then why dont you fuck off? maybe to the deep south in the US. Transfer your business there and see how tolerant they are then.?

[pinholeburn]

A Muslim Has Just Crashed His Car Into The Ulley Reservoir Near Sheffield.
Police Think Its The Start Of Ramadam.

[fetishlad]

sorry ... be right back ...

[fetishlad]

to pinhole --- is that true what you just said?

[pinholeburn]

dont think so ,think its a joke was sent to me from a mate

[fetishlad]

Okay ---

[-HF]

.... Iraq,Afghanistan ......

I, on the other hand don't support the above countries because they support terrorist activities in one form or another.

were they not liberated and remodelled to some US friendly travesty of democracy?

[psl]

If you think the UK is such a big bad place because of immigration policies then why dont you fuck off? maybe to the deep south in the US. Transfer your business there and see how tolerant they are then.?


I think........well...... WTF and who upset you anyway?:noway2:

[smoothballs]

I can see a less torelant Britain coming soon, not just muslims but immigrants like Polish ect, more and more of us Brits are seeing our way of life catered towards non english and yet if we make a song and dance about it it we are accused of raciasm! yet if it was on the other foot, and there was a mass migration from the UK to say, one of the east-european countries and we didnt conform to their laws (especially religion) there would be uproar in that country!

[bluefox]

There has been another suspicious car found that meant Park Lane, Hyde Park & the surrounding area has been closed too.

According to the ITV news this eve, it was towed by a tow truck for being illegally parked & taken to their compound, but because it smelt so stongly of petrol they left it outside. Then when they heard the reports about the other car with the bomb they contact the police.

I hope they get the barstards!

[psl]

I can see a less torelant Britain coming soon, not just muslims but immigrants like Polish ect, more and more of us Brits are seeing our way of life catered towards non english and yet if we make a song and dance about it it we are accused of raciasm! yet if it was on the other foot, and there was a mass migration from the UK to say, one of the east-european countries and we didnt conform to their laws (especially religion) there would be uproar in that country!

Apathy in the UK is face becoming a national sport.
Intolerance of other nationalities is seen as racism and criticism of the Gov's immigration policy is met with diatribe by the liberals.
Having an opinion and voicing your opinion is associated with being a right wing thug or a member of the BNP party.

It is absolutely disgusting that, we as nation, allow a third world country's minister to claim that suicide bombings could be justified because the Queen decides to bestow an Honour on one of our citizens.

We do have, as has been pointed out, the choice to leave our country if we do not like the current situation, prehaps we wouldn't need to have to make the choice if we adopted the immigration policies of say, Australia.

How many more terrorist attacks, attempted or successful, on British soil will it take before the apathetic populous actually wake up to the fact that we are fast loosing control of our own country and identity as a nation.

Imagine the carnage if the bomb in the Haymarket had exploded?

[smoothballs]

Australia has got it right, never hear them being slagged off on the world community stage...

[wankmaster]

How many more terrorist attacks, attempted or successful, on British soil will it take before the apathetic populous actually wake up to the fact that we are fast loosing control of our own country and identity as a nation.


I think it is already to late to save Britain. I am looking for somewhere better to live. I never thought in my lifetime it would come to this, but I fear it already has.

Anyway, we can say what a great tolerant people we were, as we go down the shitter.

[bluefox]

I agree...we need to get rid of the Politically Correct luvvies...& two faced racist Red Ken! :cheer:

[psl]

I think it is already to late to save Britain. I am looking for somewhere better to live. I never thought in my lifetime it would come to this, but I fear it already has.

Anyway, we can say what a great tolerant people we were, as we go down the shitter.


I don't think it is to late to save Britain, I think we need to implement more stringent immigration laws.
Economic immigration is fine but to allow the intergration of a faith that has openly stated that it wants the western world to adhere to its preachings and doctrine needs to be abated.

We need a strong Gov to take the country to task.

It's a sad indcitment of a labour Gov tenure that the only people making the decision to leave Britain are the very people that empowered the Gov to make it a better place for British citizens to live.But the same Gov let in virtually every political activist that sought asylum in the UK.A number of these asylum seekers have recruited British nationals to inflict their muderous faith on the UK people.

[Elisha Jade]

I'm prolly going to get slammed for this but what the heck...

Isn't is a bit convienient that today is the first day of Mr Brown's position - as in, perhaps all of these cars were "planted" by his people or MI5 so that he can scare the public and rush through all of his policies on detainment and immigration etc etc!?

[psl]

I'm prolly going to get slammed for this but what the heck...

Isn't is a bit convienient that today is the first day of Mr Brown's position - as in, perhaps all of these cars were "planted" by his people or MI5 so that he can scare the public and rush through all of his policies on detainment and immigration etc etc!?

It's Labours policies, or lack of them, on detainment and immigration that has helped enable the terrorists to achieve what they did. As for MI5 or Browns people planting them I think its highly unlikely because politicians need to take credit for their actions and/or inactions and MI5 couldn't afford Mercs for their operations, financial cut backs.:reading:

[Rosie]

Never thought I'd see this board come to this. Some of you people are absolutely vile.

[dvtimes]

The terrists have won.

Not because the two cars have expoaded (as they did not, plus there may be more cars), but because its now in the news, and will be for many many days.

The media should not go on and on and on, as all it does is give these people publicity.

If this had been 20 years ago, and it was the ira it would have only got a mention.

[dvtimes]

The only problem being we're getting our arses kicked in Afghanistan and Iraq, and those are just wussy little countries. Iran would be much tougher - i.e. Brown would be presiding over a slaughter of British troops if he did that.Afghanistan has never been a country you could fight.

Not so long ago it was the ussr (they were the ussr at that time) who tried to fight them but had no luck.

[dvtimes]

I'm prolly going to get slammed for this but what the heck...

Isn't is a bit convienient that today is the first day of Mr Brown's position - as in, perhaps all of these cars were "planted" by his people or MI5 so that he can scare the public and rush through all of his policies on detainment and immigration etc etc!?

No, its the perfect time is to do this at the start, as for one thing its a new goverment. Thus not fully organised.

The question is, were they live or just designed to scare people.

I say this as if they were live, they would be parked up only a few mins before they meant to explode, not a day before. It looks at this stage as if they were 'meant' to go off tonight at a nightclub, but then it seems odd they were planted so early.

They still have achived an affect.

[dvtimes]

Latest news:

they suspect it was an al-quada atyle attempt.

So the work of our lovely muslim community. Great!, lets just have more muslims immigrate into our country!You will find 99% of muslims are not suporting them.

The ones in Leeds were born in the country and not imagrints.

[dvtimes]

I hope our new PM Brown gets his 90 day detention and better deportation laws in, we have to deal with and crush these islamo-fascists now before they grow even more in numbers.

such laws will increase terrism, not decrease it.

it will mean no one has real freedom anymore. It will mean that if you demonstrate against anything, you could be classed as a threat and arrested and held without charge.

once you go down that line, you alow the terrists to win, as simply the uk looses hundreds of years of rights.

[dvtimes]

You know what Strictly I think we should agree to disagree, OK.
You support the people form Iran,Iraq,Afghanistan and gods knows how many other countries, who either live in their own country or are here in the UK, legally or illegally.
I, on the other hand don't support the above countries because they support terrorist activities in one form or another.
I support our troops , you don't.

When you say you do not suport these two countries, by this what do you mean?

Do you mean you do not suport or belive in the political systems, or do you mean you do not support the people?

Also when you say you suport our troops, what do you mean by that?

Do you mean that we should bring them home as that is what many troops want to do.

Or do you mean you suport the criminal troops who beat up Iraq people.

[dvtimes]

It is absolutely disgusting that, we as nation, allow a third world country's minister to claim that suicide bombings could be justified because the Queen decides to bestow an Honour on one of our citizens.



the queen did not.

its not the queens choise.

the honours are desided by other people. the queen simply presents the awards.

[Thursby]

I love the way that outisde a Court of Law, our old pals hearsay and conjecture are always considered to be just and proper evidence...

Call Mr Lionel Hutz...

[dvtimes]

How many more terrorist attacks, attempted or successful, on British soil will it take before the apathetic populous actually wake up to the fact that we are fast loosing control of our own country and identity as a nation.



What we have had is nothing, in reality.

The two so called terrists attacks have been carried out by amaters.

The ira were fully trained and experts and used real weapons. they struck so often it became somthing we got used to.

In fact i remember leeds being shut off due to an ira expolive, and the boss at the cinima simply took us to lunch.

we did not live in fear then.

the difference now is the media and to be honest the goverment has wound us all up to be in fear.

the reality is, is that you cannot stop a terrists. all somone has to do is fly on holiday to the uk, spend a day making some home made device from stuff they got at a diy shop and set it off, and fly home.

any moron can make a bomb, its very easy.

in truth getting all wound up is pointless. we are in truth more at risk from the weather.

the uk has many terrists groups of all different belifes. such as animal rights, extrean green suporters, christians against abortion and so on. Often there attacts are not reported or at least not reported very much in the news.

If anything, I am suprised at the lack of terrists attacks on both the uk and usa. it almost seems lame and pathetic that there is not more. if anything it demonstrates that they are not that affective.

what we have is basicly the media and goverment getting us all excited and wound up. the media as it sells stories. and the goverment as they can bring in new laws.

what is interesting is how labour are doing what hitler did before ww2.

[dvtimes]

Fucking Cunts Like DVTIMES Know that It was ladies' night Thursday at the massive Tiger Tiger nightclub, a stylish three-story venue that at full capacity can pack in 1,770 people and stays open until 3 a.m. It was here that the explosives-laded car was parked closest.


INIT?!just

so what your saying is i planted the car???

your rather mad arnt you?

i still wish to know about this claim you made before about me sleeping with you and selling the story to the papers.

your a mad person.

[psl]

No, its the perfect time is to do this at the start, as for one thing its a new goverment. Thus not fully organised.

The question is, were they live or just designed to scare people.

I say this as if they were live, they would be parked up only a few mins before they meant to explode, not a day before. It looks at this stage as if they were 'meant' to go off tonight at a nightclub, but then it seems odd they were planted so early.

They still have achived an affect.

The Gov is organised, it ust a cabimet re-shuffle.
Bombs can be set,primed and detonated days after being planted. How long was the bomb in place in the Brighton Hotel before that went off. Technology.

Economic disability and social disruption are some of the terrorists tactics.

[psl]

You will find 99% of muslims are not suporting them.

The ones in Leeds were born in the country and not imagrints.

Ok your opinion.

[Thursby]

DVT - are you, in some loose way, channeling Samuel Pepys?

[dvtimes]

The Gov is organised, it ust a cabimet re-shuffle.
Bombs can be set,primed and detonated days after being planted. How long was the bomb in place in the Brighton Hotel before that went off. Technology.



yes, that was the ira with real weapons, not these twits with home made junk.

[psl]

such laws will increase terrism, not decrease it.

it will mean no one has real freedom anymore. It will mean that if you demonstrate against anything, you could be classed as a threat and arrested and held without charge.

once you go down that line, you alow the terrists to win, as simply the uk looses hundreds of years of rights.

Its already law that you cannot have a peaceful protest without police permission unless you are a muslim burning pictures of cartoonist that pissed you off then you don't get arrested.

[dvtimes]

Ok your opinion.

I am in Leeds and have muslim friends in both leeds and bradford for many years. they do not suport the terrists.

in fact i ran for a few months a pc shop in leeds. it was the one on the news that the police raided as they claimed they supplied pc equipent to the terrists as my mate is muslim.

odly at the time my mate (who owns the shop) was helping out a relative, so i ran the shop. in other words it was me who would have been suppliying the terrists.

but if you read the papers they miss a lot of that out.

you see your getting excited from the junk you read. often the truth is more interesting.

by the way, i did not suply any terrists with any pc equipent.

[Willie_Ekkerslike]

yes, that was the ira with real weapons, not these twits with home made junk.

Whilst to a certain extent I can agree with you there, but try telling that to friends and family who lost loved ones in the 07/07 London bombings!

Twits or not, they got a result :(

And the old IRA quote "We only have to get lucky once, you have to be lucky every time" also applies in the current climate :(

[dvtimes]

DVT - are you, in some loose way, channeling Samuel Pepys?who?

[Thursby]

yes, that was the ira with real weapons, not these twits with home made junk.

Compressed gas and nails are junk in themselves but greater than than the sum of there parts when put together like this. Easy and low key to acquire. Simple to assemble. Very nearly a doddle to execute - in every sense of the word.

Ever heard the phrase "less is more" - I hope so, because that' s the very basis of your shrewd business proposition....

[Willie_Ekkerslike]

by the way, i did not suply any terrists with any pc equipent.

Semtex?

[dvtimes]

Its already law that you cannot have a peaceful protest without police permission unless you are a muslim burning pictures of cartoonist that pissed you off then you don't get arrested.

thats a rather silly thing to say. if this is true please post the law link that states this.

creating silly statments just makes your arguments seem stupid and nonsense. why not say all muslims have pointy ears and eat children while your at it!!!!

recently two old ladies were arrested as terrists. they have for years and years sat outside one of those early warning systems demonstrating at nuks. the new laws now mean they no longer can do that.

[psl]

When you say you do not suport these two countries, by this what do you mean?

Do you mean you do not suport or belive in the political systems, or do you mean you do not support the people?

Also when you say you suport our troops, what do you mean by that?

Do you mean that we should bring them home as that is what many troops want to do.

Or do you mean you suport the criminal troops who beat up Iraq people.


The countries had puppet regimes placed there by us or the US.
I don't support their idealogical beliefs.

I support our troops 100% in the job they are doing.
How do you know what the troops want?

If insurgents are trying to kill you every day using bullets and IED's you are going to crack a few heads to get intelligence, it happens in all wars.

And the troops are not criminals until proven guilty and no British serving soldier has been found guilty for abuse of Iraqi civilians, to my knowledge.

[dvtimes]

Whilst to a certain extent I can agree with you there, but try telling that to friends and family who lost loved ones in the 07/07 London bombings!

Twits or not, they got a result :(

And the old IRA quote "We only have to get lucky once, you have to be lucky every time" also applies in the current climate :(

if they had real wepons and were organsised, it would not have been a few people killed but hundreds if not thouands.

In deed i am not sure what your point is.

[psl]

the queen did not.

its not the queens choise.

the honours are desided by other people. the queen simply presents the awards.

Of course the Queen does not make every choice she does however have the power of veto on any submission for an honour.
She does not simply present the honours.

[dvtimes]

How do you know what the troops want?



I sugest troops want to leave due to the huge nombers going aol, and the letters sent home to parents, wives, saying they want to come home and the fact that as yet i have not heard any of them saying they want to go.

[Willie_Ekkerslike]

In deed i am not sure what your point is.

The point is, Twits or not, real weapons or not, they can still cause havock, maim and kill :(

[dvtimes]

Ever heard the phrase "less is more" - I hope so, because that' s the very basis of your shrewd business proposition....

Pardon.

Can you explain that as I fail to understand what my 'basis of your shrewd business proposition' is?

What is my websites to do with this?

[psl]

What we have had is nothing, in reality.

The two so called terrists attacks have been carried out by amaters.

The ira were fully trained and experts and used real weapons. they struck so often it became somthing we got used to.

In fact i remember leeds being shut off due to an ira expolive, and the boss at the cinima simply took us to lunch.

we did not live in fear then.

the difference now is the media and to be honest the goverment has wound us all up to be in fear.

the reality is, is that you cannot stop a terrists. all somone has to do is fly on holiday to the uk, spend a day making some home made device from stuff they got at a diy shop and set it off, and fly home.

any moron can make a bomb, its very easy.

in truth getting all wound up is pointless. we are in truth more at risk from the weather.

the uk has many terrists groups of all different belifes. such as animal rights, extrean green suporters, christians against abortion and so on. Often there attacts are not reported or at least not reported very much in the news.

If anything, I am suprised at the lack of terrists attacks on both the uk and usa. it almost seems lame and pathetic that there is not more. if anything it demonstrates that they are not that affective.

what we have is basicly the media and goverment getting us all excited and wound up. the media as it sells stories. and the goverment as they can bring in new laws.

what is interesting is how labour are doing what hitler did before ww2.


Right OK................................................ .WTF are you on.

[dvtimes]

Right OK................................................ .WTF are you on.

Well thats an inteligent response????

Can you tell me what part you desagree with and why?

[psl]

I sugest troops want to leave due to the huge nombers going aol, and the letters sent home to parents, wives, saying they want to come home and the fact that as yet i have not heard any of them saying they want to go.

Do you censor the post for the armed forces in your spare time then?
What amount of servciemen or women go awol.
Aol is an internet company BTW.

[dvtimes]

The point is, Twits or not, real weapons or not, they can still cause havock, maim and kill :(

Of course.

And.

The main affect they want is news publicity.

And the media gives them it.

[psl]

Well thats an inteligent response????

Can you tell me what part you desagree with and why?


Yea, in the morning. Good night DVT.

[Willie_Ekkerslike]

In deed i am not sure what your point is.

Retracted now I've seen your other reply, sorry !!!!

[dvtimes]

Do you censor the post for the armed forces in your spare time then?
What amount of servciemen or women go awol.
Aol is an internet company

I have watched several progams where they have said this, and i also listen to talk sport when they phone up.

but in deed what has this to do with the main points? is it that you have lost the argument and are now simply trying to find faults in my clearly more educated argument. well fine, you have court me out, at this stage i cannot give a figer on how many have gone aol. well i can, but i cannot be bothered to look it up as its late and i find arguing with people who cannot develop an eduucated argument and only silly comments rather dull and tyersome. so i will be off to bed soon.

[Thursby]

Pardon.

Can you explain that as I fail to understand what my 'basis of your shrewd business proposition' is?

What is my websites to do with this?


Oooh, come on! I love your work and it's because it's a simple proposition that works very well for you. No glamour, no glitz no wild EFX. It's direct, functional and ostensibly real. And that's what the bomb was - simple direct, no pretence at sophistication. If it worked, it would work well. Otherwise, hey, well, what the hell...

No insult, no sarcasm - it's just a parallel...

[dvtimes]

You seem to be against the powers that be tightening up on terrorism, or at least the way you are arguing against the fact leads me in that direction.

Are you actually saying that ALL Muslims should be left alone while we just sit back and wait for the consequences!

1. the laws that clain to stop terrism will not stop it. they are there simply to remove your rights.

of course i am against such laws as the uk has been a free country for many years. the freedom my gradparents went to war to pretenct (ww2).

people are being scared into beliving we need such laws, which we do not.

In fact even the news today they inteligence has stated that it had no suspisions of any attacts. so how would your new laws work. you simply arrest somone as they are muslim???

by bringing in such laws you wipe out hundreds of years of freedom. affectivly letting the terrists win. you loose all your rights.

this is what hitler did before ww2, he removed people rights to protect them. in the end people were pput to death for telling anty hitler jokes. now if thats the country you wish to live in, thats fine.

2. you say "Are you actually saying that ALL Muslims should be left alone while we just sit back and wait for the consequences!", so are you sayiong all muslims are terrists. Or are you saying we should randomly arrest muslims, just in case, because at the end of the day your not muslim so why should you care.

Or are you saying if you lock up people for 90 days without charge, then as you have nothing on them, release them that, that will not increase hatred!!!!

If I say anything, its why are you refering to muslims? Muslims are against murder. these terrisats are not muslim, they are terrists.

Mabe what your saying is, is that in truth you do not know any muslims and get all your info from the sun and your mates. Perhaps you should go out and meet some muslims.

[dvtimes]

Oooh, come on! I love your work and it's because it's a simple proposition that works very well for you. No glamour, no glitz no wild EFX. It's direct, functional and ostensibly real. And that's what the bomb was - simple direct, no pretence at sophistication. If it worked, it would work well. Otherwise, hey, well, what the hell...

No insult, no sarcasm - it's just a parallel...

it did work.

by this, its irelivent if the bomb goes off or not. What the terrists are after is publicity. More they are in the news the better.

[dvtimes]

OK I am off to bed now.

Just remember that we had years and years of ira attects. we had no reason to bring in laws at the time or remove our rights.

so i fail to see why we should now.

no laws, no id cards, no nothing will ever stop terrists. the only thing it will achive is that we loose our rights and freedom.

in truth loosing my rights and freedom scares me for more than being killed.

Muslims, nor any other religion are not a threat.

remeber when hitler came into power, it was not just the jews who suffered, it was the public. like today in the uk many put up with it. but many entertainers suffered. people who told jokes that did not go along with the party belifes had there heads removed.

you may think that is bbeing dramatic, but over the last few years with the so called terrist laws we have seen people arrested in the name of terrism for minor things, even an old man at a labour part speech was arrested. I myself was arrested and searched at a 'hippy' demonstration at drax powerstation.

we have lost a lot of freedom in the last few years, i do not want to see more rights being taken away.

stop being scared. the goverment and media are winding us all up to be scared. stand back for a moment and look at the real picture. basicly we have had 3 wishy washy attacts. with the latest (so far) not expoding). compaire that to the almost daily attacts from the ira.

[Willie_Ekkerslike]

DVT - If I say anything, its why are you refering to muslims? Muslims are against murder. these terrisats are not muslim, they are terrists.

I bloody well know they are not, but they live their lives within the Muslim community and to the outside world they act as if they are!

DVT - Mabe what your saying is, is that in truth you do not know any muslims and get all your info from the sun and your mates. Perhaps you should go out and meet some muslims.

The Sun, don't talk bollocks! I don't need to meet any more Muslims, the ones I know are sufficient. And it is those Muslims who tell me that they are 100% against what these Terrorists are doing, but whilst the Terrorists dig them selves so deep within the Muslim community there will always be people getting thei collar felt who have done nothing wrong.

Their communities are very tight knit, and it's easy for anybody to spot the wheat from the chaff !!

[Willie_Ekkerslike]

remeber when hitler came into power,

No I don't actually, is there something you need to tell us about your age?

[bluefox]

What we have had is nothing, in reality.

basicly we have had 3 wishy washy attacts. with the latest (so far) not expoding).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/uk/05/london_blasts/victims/default.stm

Judging by your disparaging remarks clearly none of your family was killed.

And as for the rest of it, I have never had the misfortune to read so much dross. It would be laughable if it wasn't so sad.

[xcite-tv]

Anybody thought about the possibility it was aimed at the gay community as its Gay Pride weekend in London..??

also... try pickpocketing in Central London and a swat like team will swoop before the pickpocket can fuck off. Are you telling me the guys who parked those cars cant be found using CCTV in an instant. Great security measures we have in London !!!

I parked a Van on double yellows in E17 the other day and the cctv picked me up and sent a ticket

this is way to convienient for our new PM

[psl]

OK I am off to bed now.

Just remember that we had years and years of ira attects. we had no reason to bring in laws at the time or remove our rights.

so i fail to see why we should now

DVT during the years of lawlessnes in Northern Ireland the Gov brought in internment without trial, Belfast and other towns and cities in NI where on virtual lockdown.Some form of identity had to be carried at all times.
I worked in Northern Ireland for 8 years so don't tell me that new laws weren't brought in and peoples rights removed,it was a war and war calls for drastic measures to protect the population.

You really need to watch more eductaional programmes and listen to a radio station that may give you a more balanced view, prehaps Radio 4, not a lot of sport on that station though.
I respect your opinions regarding the scaremongering by the press but the rest of your opinions, dont be a sheep.
Your opinion will change once you have been experienced a terrorist attack, first hand.

[Jel]

Forty-two.

[strictlybroadband]

DVT during the years of lawlessnes in Northern Ireland the Gov brought in internment without trial, Belfast and other towns and cities in NI where on virtual lockdown.

That's true. And the result: more support for the IRA, more terrorist activity. It was a failure.

[psl]

That's true. And the result: more support for the IRA, more terrorist activity. It was a failure.

There was support for the PIRA before the laws came in.The law was not failure.
I for one would likt to she something similar brought in.If somebody is s suspected terrorist and you have evidence to that effect, lock them up.
The majority of the support for PIRA came from the US.

[mOBSCENE]

Anybody thought about the possibility it was aimed at the gay community as its Gay Pride weekend in London..??


What if they were protesting about the smoking ban - ie if I can't smoke in those nightclubs, then I'll send the fuckers up in smoke...

[strictlybroadband]

There was support for the PIRA before the laws came in.The law was not failure.
I for one would likt to she something similar brought in.If somebody is s suspected terrorist and you have evidence to that effect, lock them up.
The majority of the support for PIRA came from the US.

The money came from the US, but British policy increased support for the IRA. My first drinking days were in the Irish pubs around Kilburn and Cricklewood, which was Irish central in the early 80s. Every Irish person I used to know supported the IRA and INLA to some extent, and that was the result of being treated like shit by the British army and police for 10 years. Terrorists need to be starved of support - British policy on Ireland did the opposite.

[Damian]

what is interesting is how labour are doing what hitler did before ww2.

I call Godwin's Law. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law)

[strictlybroadband]

I call Godwin's Law. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law)

Spoilsport.

[psl]

The money came from the US, but British policy increased support for the IRA. My first drinking days were in the Irish pubs around Kilburn and Cricklewood, which was Irish central in the early 80s. Every Irish person I used to know supported the IRA and INLA to some extent, and that was the result of being treated like shit by the British army and police for 10 years. Terrorists need to be starved of support - British policy on Ireland did the opposite.


The British army treated PIRA like shit because they where terrorists.What should the army have done, thrown them a fuckin party.
The terrorists had a policy of shoot and bomb to kill and as soon as the army and RUC adopted the same policy there was uproar.
Internment was a good law and it should be reintroduced to combat the current terrorist problem.
It always amused me that thousands of "micks" would support PIRA, funding etc, from the comfort of a nice pub in London,Birmingham and Manchester and the police and services in the UK did fuck all about it.

[strictlybroadband]

The British army treated PIRA like shit because they where terrorists.What should the army have done, thrown them a fuckin party.

They treated the entire Catholic population like shit, that was how the IRA got so much support. I had a friend who age 16 been smacked in the nuts by a British soldier with his rifle butt. Just for fun. And he hated the British army forever more after that.

[psl]

The scumbags in PIRA killed and maimed thousands and they and there supporters deserved everything they got. A rifle butt in the nuts, prehaps he did what a lot of the little shitheads did, spit at the soldiers.
Question: did you ever spend anytme in NI during the troubles?

[Scottybuzz]

Anybody thought about the possibility it was aimed at the gay community as its Gay Pride weekend in London..??

also... try pickpocketing in Central London and a swat like team will swoop before the pickpocket can fuck off. Are you telling me the guys who parked those cars cant be found using CCTV in an instant. Great security measures we have in London !!!

I parked a Van on double yellows in E17 the other day and the cctv picked me up and sent a ticket

this is way to convienient for our new PM
oh bloody hell, here we go again lol