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http://chime.tv/
Interesting (to me) new video site. Quite joost-like UI, great quality video and nice full screen mode.
I like it so far.
dvtimes
06-13-07, 03:32 PM
thing is, you will find loads of these being set up.
but the problem is unless they can be sold for huge bucks, then they will make a loss, as people will mainly use youtube for there ads and stuff.
DVT, no, it IS youtube. But pretty.
Look:
The full page player is similar to Joost and Babelgum, but in your browser. Like the IPTV guys, you can flip through pre-made channels, roll your own, or search for content by keyword. The player is pretty hands off, and will just run if you give it a channel or a search term to munch on. The player searches through videos on YouTube, Veoh, Metacafe, Google Video, and DailyMotion. You can reorganize the results by title, length, or randomize. They also have a bookmarklet so you can add content to your channels as you surf the web.
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It's not 'another video site'. It's a pretty aggregator of video sites.
Benny_MN
06-13-07, 03:45 PM
Dunno - I think theres always room for a new little guy. I started reading a really good book called "Challenger Brands - Eating the big fish" (or something)
Really intersting stuff of how consumers react well to smaller, "have a go" type start ups.
Loook at myspace and faceparty, I dont take part in either but i hear face party is the new myspace as myspace become too commercial etc..
call Mr. Old Fashioned if you like, but why would you not want to watch TV on a TV, in quality on a large screen?
Benny_MN
06-13-07, 03:47 PM
DVT, no, it IS youtube. But pretty.
Oh ....:shaggy:
call Mr. Old Fashioned if you like, but why would you not want to watch TV on a TV, in quality on a large screen?
Few points.
Because TV stations do not broadcast all the content I watch. For example, diggnation. A weekly video podcast I love. dl.tv, another good twice weekly tech video podcast etc etc.
However, I do now watch that on my big telly, upscaled to 1080p, using my (overpriced but cool) appletv.
They are releasing a plugin for youtube on the platform, that will deliver much higher quality encoding on the videos there, directly to your tv. (there is already a hacked plug in available if you crack your appletv).
Joost will be available soon on the appletv too - again or you can hack it already.
Make no mistake about it, broadcast tv (as we know it) is going to be dead soon, and IPTV will take over. There needs to be more boxes like the appletv to make it easier to do.
As soon as that tipping point is reached (and it's very close) I cannot see a future for an awful lot of broadcasters.
Get the programming you want to watch, and only what you want to watch, when you want it.
Just like podcasting has now (for me) made radio pointless, places like this will do that for TV.
I reckon.
Few points.
Because TV stations do not broadcast all the content I watch. For example, diggnation. A weekly video podcast I love. dl.tv, another good twice weekly tech video podcast etc etc.
However, I do now watch that on my big telly, upscaled to 1080p, using my (overpriced but cool) appletv.
They are releasing a plugin for youtube on the platform, that will deliver much higher quality encoding on the videos there, directly to your tv. (there is already a hacked plug in available if you crack your appletv).
Joost will be available soon on the appletv too - again or you can hack it already.
Make no mistake about it, broadcast tv (as we know it) is going to be dead soon, and IPTV will take over. There needs to be more boxes like the appletv to make it easier to do.
As soon as that tipping point is reached (and it's very close) I cannot see a future for an awful lot of broadcasters.
Get the programming you want to watch, and only what you want to watch, when you want it.
Just like podcasting has now (for me) made radio pointless, places like this will do that for TV.
I reckon.
Sounds shit.
Give me Sky HD any day, instead of watching grainy clips of alan tishmarsh and pod casts from nerdy loosers who I hate any day.
When people work alot on the net, we tend to think what we do and how we do things is the norm. It isnt. Broadcast TV wont be dead for a long time yet.
Yes lots of nerds like you will be happy fucking around on the net looking for stuff they want. But for most normal people, they want to push the on button on on their TV, put on the slippers, open a few tins and watch TV
Sounds shit.
Give me Sky HD any day, instead of watching grainy clips of alan tishmarsh and pod casts from nerdy loosers who I hate any day.
When people work alot on the net, we tend to think what we do and how we do things is the norm. It isnt. Broadcast TV wont be dead for a long time yet.
Yes lots of nerds like you will be happy fucking around on the net looking for stuff they want. But for most normal people, they want to push the on button on on their TV, put on the slippers, open a few tins and watch TV
But, unless you are being deliberately contrary, that is EXACTLY what the appletv DOES do. One box, gorgeous interface, let's me watch the content I download. Syncs with iTunes automatically. It couldn't get any easier.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0UFYzG0DSo
Here, you can see how lovely the UI is.
Of course I don't think it's the norm, I think it's the future. I thought that's what I said.
adultbusiness
06-13-07, 04:21 PM
Make no mistake about it, broadcast tv (as we know it) is going to be dead soon, and IPTV will take over. There needs to be more boxes like the appletv to make it easier to do.
As soon as that tipping point is reached (and it's very close) I cannot see a future for an awful lot of broadcasters
We are no way close to IPTV taking over from conventional broadcasting... people are still struggling with digital tv!
But, unless you are being deliberately contrary, that is EXACTLY what the appletv DOES do. One box, gorgeous interface, let's me watch the content I download. Syncs with iTunes automatically. It couldn't get any easier.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0UFYzG0DSo
Here, you can see how lovely the UI is.
Of course I don't think it's the norm, I think it's the future. I thought that's what I said.
Looks shit
UKSexCash
06-13-07, 04:26 PM
Is this DVT's Long Lost Cousin?
http://chime.tv/videoblogs/8qn8
We are no way close to IPTV taking over from conventional broadcasting... people are still struggling with digital tv!
Semantics about the definition of close. What I mean is that broadcast TV as we know it, will end. And in less than the 80 years it's been going.
These two quotes explain it more eloquently than I can.
Steve Gillmour:
But that's not why TV is dead. TV is dead because of the Internet. TV is dead because we don't have time for it. TV is dead because the computer lives. TV is dead because of the stupid blogosphere, the so-called "new" medium of podcasting, TiVo, RSS, and HDTV. TV is dead because TV now sucks more than all of the previous.
or from Wired:
"What's really happened is the disintegration of the traditional programming supply chain," says Ross Rubin, director of industry analysis for the NPD Group. "TV has become more of a portal into a wide range of video sources than an integrated device and service."
Steve Gillmour:
But that's not why TV is dead. TV is dead because of the Internet. TV is dead because we don't have time for it. TV is dead because the computer lives. TV is dead because of the stupid blogosphere, the so-called "new" medium of podcasting, TiVo, RSS, and HDTV. TV is dead because TV now sucks more than all of the previous.
Sounds like a right twat.
adultbusiness
06-13-07, 04:35 PM
Semantics about the definition of close. What I mean is that broadcast TV as we know it, will end. And in less than the 80 years it's been going.
Well, give or take a decade or two and you might be right then... :character0079:
Look at SKY tv, its truely a revolution, changes the way anyone who has it watches TV (being able to live pause etc) and you would think it would be the norm in every household but no, it isn't.... the majority still have only 5 channels and have never heard or seen Youtube....
the majority still have only 5 channels and have never heard or seen Youtube....
and those who have think its shit
Look at SKY tv, its truely a revolution, changes the way anyone who has it watches TV (being able to live pause etc) and you would think it would be the norm in every household but no, it isn't....
I love sky plus, I thank god every night that it was invented. I also made sure I got a TV that the stand is on wheels, that way I can pull it towards the settee at night and cuddle it
it's a mistake to assume IPTV needs any PC gear. all it needs is the hardware that makes sense of the data. a nice set-top box for instance. a remote so the average TV consumer can flip through the channels and engage in the planned interactive shows. no more is required.
what we'll really see is a move from broadcasting as we know it today to IPTV, by mainly the same companies as we perceive as broadcasters today. to the average guy in front of the telly next to nothing will change, there may be a wider choice of channels, but that's about all he will see in changes. what could IPTV offer, that he doesn't get with the digital channels already?
the only ones really gaining anything from IPTV are the broadcasters, cos they know exactly what IP, read which customer, watched a certain stream.
Well, give or take a decade or two and you might be right then... :character0079:
Look at SKY tv, its truely a revolution, changes the way anyone who has it watches TV (being able to live pause etc) and you would think it would be the norm in every household but no, it isn't.... the majority still have only 5 channels and have never heard or seen Youtube....
I assume you mean SKY+ (which is nothing more than tivo, so not really 'revolutionary' but that's not your point...). Yes, DVR facilitates time shifting brilliantly.
And yes, alot of people haven't heard of YouTube. I would question that being 'the majority'.
My only point was that the broadcast business model as it is now, cannot continue, and will die. If anyone disagrees with that, they *are* wrong. But as we cannot jump forward 10 or 20 years, we cannot prove each other incorrect.
I was only posting a link to a new site that I liked. :D
xxx
and those who have think its shit
brilliant point there, because clearly IPTV == YouTube.
Oh hang on, no it doesn't.
I was only posting a link to a new site that I liked. :D
xxx
yes and it was shit :P
it's a mistake to assume IPTV needs any PC gear. all it needs is the hardware that makes sense of the data. a nice set-top box for instance. a remote so the average TV consumer can flip through the channels and engage in the planned interactive shows. no more is required.
what we'll really see is a move from broadcasting as we know it today to IPTV, by mainly the same companies as we perceive as broadcasters today. to the average guy in front of the telly next to nothing will change, there may be a wider choice of channels, but that's about all he will see in changes. what could IPTV offer, that he doesn't get with the digital channels already?
the only ones really gaining anything from IPTV are the broadcasters, cos they know exactly what IP, read which customer, watched a certain stream.
absolutely. imagine the strength of being able to offer RELEVANT advertising based on a sociodemographic. Just like Joost is already doing.
IPTV doesn't mean watching telly on your PC in a little grainy window. It means getting content you want to watch, WHEN you want to watch it onto your telly.
Just like my shiny appletv box does.
brilliant point there
Of course :shaun:
adultbusiness
06-13-07, 04:50 PM
I assume you mean SKY+ (which is nothing more than tivo, so not really 'revolutionary' but that's not your point...). Yes, DVR facilitates time shifting brilliantly.
And yes, alot of people haven't heard of YouTube. I would question that being 'the majority'.
My only point was that the broadcast business model as it is now, cannot continue, and will die. If anyone disagrees with that, they *are* wrong. But as we cannot jump forward 10 or 20 years, we cannot prove each other incorrect.
I was only posting a link to a new site that I liked. :D
xxx
But unless we all argue until the thread hits 5 pages we have broken the fundamental ethos of B&B...
So... Damien, you are a complete tosser who knows nothing about anything and everyone else is a communist or racist (or both) and I am right.
Oh, and DVT smells.....
:catfight:
But unless we all argue until the thread hits 5 pages we have broken the fundamental ethos of B&B...
So... Damien, you are a complete tosser who knows nothing about anything and everyone else is a communist or racist (or both) and I am right.
Oh, and DVT smells.....
:catfight:
He isn't a complete tosser, an almost complete tosser. Now if we are talking about Jerry from strictly broadband...........
But unless we all argue until the thread hits 5 pages we have broken the fundamental ethos of B&B...
So... Damien, you are a complete tosser who knows nothing about anything and everyone else is a communist or racist (or both) and I am right.
Oh, and DVT smells.....
:catfight:
lol. fair point.
absolutely. imagine the strength of being able to offer RELEVANT advertising based on a sociodemographic. Just like Joost is already doing.
are joost just not stealing content then showing geo targeted ads on their site that is just a site full of stolen content?
Is this the way forward, everyone steals content. Who makes it when no one can make any money from it?
I guess there will be plenty of nerds doing shitty podcasts for other nerds to watch.
I'll keep my sky if you dont mind
[QUOTE=Johny Traffic]are joost just not stealing content then showing geo targeted ads on their site that is just a site full of stolen content?
/QUOTE]
Er, no. Nothing is stolen on their site. And the ads are targeted based on sociademograpic profiling, not just geography.
The company has already partnered with CBS and Viacom to provide their programming to the users. Joost will also be creating behavioral profiles of the users based on the viewing habits, likes and dislikes, to serve hyper targeted ads. It is just a matter of time when you will be able to select the joggers Steve Jobs sported in the Macworld conference by clicking on the TV screen and ordering it from the nearest store.
http://startupmeme.com/2007/04/26/joost-signs-advertising-deal-with-31-major-brands/
I am starting to come round to your way of thinking. I have done some research and found this post to be very informative on the subject http://www.beerandbollocks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11820
Just like podcasting has now (for me) made radio pointless, places like this will do that for TV.
You are clearly in a very miniscule minority here, possibly even nearly on your own.
The overwhelming majority of the population have tasks to do each day which mean that they want to do no more than turn their radio on to one of the favoured stations, and forget it.
I think I've probably listened to a podcast no more than half a dozen times, and then it was something I would normally listen to on the radio and missed. I have the radio on all day every day, but can't envisage changing my listening habits anytime soon, and the TV would hold even greater resistance.
You are clearly in a very miniscule minority here, possibly even nearly on your own.
LOL! Have you been living under a rock for the last year?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=podcasting+killed+radio&btnG=Search
There you go, 1.3 million returns.
Radio listeners are in decline massively, people want to listen to what they want, when they want, without shit play lists, innane DJs and linear broadcasts.
I am genuinely really amused you think I am on my own.
According to the recent survey of Radio Joint Audience Research Limited, there are now 2.1 million people all over UK who are downloading and listening to podcasts. This is a significant increase of 15% as compared to its statistics for the past three months.
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And that was from February.
LOL! Have you been living under a rock for the last year?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=podcasting+killed+radio&btnG=Search
There you go, 1.3 million returns.
Radio listeners are in decline massively, people want to listen to what they want, when they want, without shit play lists, innane DJs and linear broadcasts.
I am genuinely really amused you think I am on my own.
That's a fairly small number in the scheme of things surely? Bearing in mind that the vast majority of the population don't spend most of their time at home, or indoors all day every day, you honestly think that wide swathes of the working population, through transport to construction etc etc are suddenly going to drop their "trannies"?
I can see the point you make, but it will take years for the average over 25's to change to this way of thinking, I still know a number of people within my peer group who don't have access to the internet at home, and whilst I accept that it's not required for a lot of this stuff, or not in the traditional(odd thing to say about the net) sense, that's still the gateway for many people for this technology.
You're a hip happening dude who likes technology, the vast majority of the population aren't.
That's a fairly small number in the scheme of things surely?
Depends who you ask. The radio advertising people are very worried about the decline. So my mate who runs RAJAR tells me.
Thanks for the hip and happening bit. But I think the popularity of the Ricky Jervais podcast demonstrates that it isn't just me downloading my radio shows.
But yes, I agree with you totally. Getting buiders to drop their paintsplattered trannies (oo er) won'\t be happening soon, but that doesn't mean there is a paradigm shift going on now.
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