Setting Up A Paysite..Things you Have To Do

[smoothballs]

was just looking at ccbill signup as a client and thats bought up a few issues!

CCBill EU is a VISA approved payment gateway and service provider or IPSP for EU-based businesses. If you are a EU-Based business and want to process transactions through the VISA network, VISA requires that your business (1) be registered as a VISA sponsored merchant and (2) that it is located within the VISA designated European Union Region.

In order for CCBill EU to process VISA transactions, you must provide valid proof that your business is based in a country that is within the VISA designated EU region.

Then theres having to register self employed with HMC, and with my case being employed, I would be both so may have to pay NI Class1,2 and 4!!!!!

I wonder how I can prove who I am, like when you open a bank account they normally ask for 1 of these 3 to prove who you are...

1. drivers license (I dont have one)

2.Passport (it ran out 4 years ago havent needed to renew it)

3.NI card (never got issued one when they came out!)

So how the fuck do I prove who I am? lol

[Elisha Jade]

Maybe ask for an NI card to be sent out to you? You gotta be on their system somewhere?

[smoothballs]

yes I pay NI but years ago they issued credit card type of NI card, but I never got one! lol

[Elisha Jade]

Failing that renew your passport :)

[smoothballs]

more expense...just to prove I am who I am! grrrr! :banghead:

[Scotty.T]

Not all banks require photographic proof. You can get away with a current firearms certificate, or shotgun certificate:)

Also a PAYE coding notice works.

[smoothballs]

Im just wondering how you prove it to ccbill? what do you do send a scan or what?

[Elisha Jade]

We faxed a copy i think, but that was a long long time ago - in 2000 when i opened my first site. It was easier to open an account then than it is today.

[Geezer]

Just apply for a passporte and drivig licence

[smoothballs]

I probably cant even get a internal flight in the uk cos of no ID!!!! how much is a drivers license these days? last time I got one i was 16 in 1982 think it was about £6 for a yearly provisional one...lol

[Simon]

more expense...just to prove I am who I am! grrrr! :banghead:£70 isn't a great deal of money, plus you can always use your passport as a... wait for it... passport, as well.

But it does highlight a big difference between working as an aff and running a pay site - as an aff you don't have to buy a lot of stuff that either doesn't work or has limited use. (Actually, I bet thats not even halfway true, I bet its just as easy to waste money, just on different things!)

Run a pay site and things you now get for free will suddenly cost money. A prime example being content. Not all of it will work, and unlike dropping a sponsor where "all" you have lost is the time it took to build pages and get some linkage, you'll be out of pocket on real cash. I say "all" as you shouldn't under estimate the value or cost of your own time, but somehow its never as painful as actually loosing cash money.

Once a paysite is up and running you don't have the option of just stopping till things get better or you find that new source of whatever it is you are lacking this week, so you end up buying stuff you know won't last, but will get you through till the real solution comes along.

I've been stuck in Spain with a broken camera, standing in a camera shop wondering which pile of crap (and really expensive) camera I should buy to get me though the rest of the week as mine had died, cause stopping for two days, flying home early or shipping a new one from the UK all would have ended up costing more than just gritting my teeth and buying SOMETHING right then, even though I basically new I'd never touch it again once the crisis was over.

[Geezer]

I probably cant even get a internal flight in the uk cos of no ID!!!! how much is a drivers license these days? last time I got one i was 16 in 1982 think it was about £6 for a yearly provisional one...lol

A yearly driving licence????

They used to do a yearly passport but not a licence.

[smoothballs]

A yearly driving licence????

They used to do a yearly passport but not a licence.


It was long time ago! I can remeber it had a expiry date on the license..sure of it....anyway renewing my passport will cost about £60 may as well go for that option! lol

[Geezer]

It was long time ago! I can remeber it had a expiry date on the license..sure of it....anyway renewing my passport will cost about £60 may as well go for that option! lol


You will need both ;)

[smoothballs]

mmmmmm

THE FOLLOWING ARE ACCEPTABLE FORMS OF DOCUMENTATION FOR PROOF OF YOUR EU-BASED BUSINESS LOCATION:
For Clients who own a Business in a Visa EU region, you must provide one piece of identification from each of the following categories

Corporation Related, you must include (1) of the following:
• Articles of Incorporation
• Business License
• Previous Year’s Filed Corporate Tax Return

and

Principal Related, you must include (1) of the following:
• Valid Passport
• National ID
• Valid Driver’s License
• Most Recent Personal Tax Return


Clients who are an individual located within the VISA EU region without a formally recognized business, must include (2) of the following forms of identification:

• Principal’s Valid Country of Origin ID
• Principal’s Valid Passport
• Principal’s Valid Driver’s License
• Most Recent Personal Tax Return

so by the looks of it just license and passport :)

[Elisha Jade]

I probably cant even get a internal flight in the uk cos of no ID!!!! how much is a drivers license these days? last time I got one i was 16 in 1982 think it was about £6 for a yearly provisional one...lol

I was 1 then :D hehehe

[smoothballs]

I was 1 then :D hehehe


now i feel old lol

[Grisey]

It was easier to open an account then than it is today.

soooooooooo wrong ccbills old 27 page contract that you had to fax back is now down to 1 PAGE and you can take pictures of the ID and send them the pictures aslong as they are clear :cheers2:

[ukbukkake]

I was 1 then :D hehehe


I wasnt even born!

[Elisha Jade]

soooooooooo wrong ccbills old 27 page contract that you had to fax back is now down to 1 PAGE and you can take pictures of the ID and send them the pictures aslong as they are clear

Was it really 27 pages!?! I cant remember it being that big hehe

[Geezer]

so by the looks of it just license and passport :)

I know I had to send both cos I had to apply for a photo licence, I only had a paper one and I needed another photo ID. I put off signing with CCBill for quite some time because it seemed you needed so much shit. In the end I just applied and decided to deal with anything as it arose. It wasn't too bad and I got there in then end.

[heidi84]

I was 1 then :D hehehe

I wasnt born haha

Yer they used to expire i know that much cos my dad asked if the provisional still did when my brother got his

[Geezer]

I wasnt born haha

Yer they used to expire i know that much cos my dad asked if the provisional still did when my brother got his

Yeah they do expire, when you are 70

[refund]

£70 isn't a great deal of money, plus you can always use your passport as a... wait for it... passport, as well.

But it does highlight a big difference between working as an aff and running a pay site - as an aff you don't have to buy a lot of stuff that either doesn't work or has limited use. (Actually, I bet thats not even halfway true, I bet its just as easy to waste money, just on different things!)

Run a pay site and things you now get for free will suddenly cost money. A prime example being content. Not all of it will work, and unlike dropping a sponsor where "all" you have lost is the time it took to build pages and get some linkage, you'll be out of pocket on real cash. I say "all" as you shouldn't under estimate the value or cost of your own time, but somehow its never as painful as actually loosing cash money.

Once a paysite is up and running you don't have the option of just stopping till things get better or you find that new source of whatever it is you are lacking this week, so you end up buying stuff you know won't last, but will get you through till the real solution comes along.

I've been stuck in Spain with a broken camera, standing in a camera shop wondering which pile of crap (and really expensive) camera I should buy to get me though the rest of the week as mine had died, cause stopping for two days, flying home early or shipping a new one from the UK all would have ended up costing more than just gritting my teeth and buying SOMETHING right then, even though I basically new I'd never touch it again once the crisis was over.


Great post. I think anyone who runs a paysite has been there. BTW, these costs that you are complaining about are just a drop in the bucket. I think if this is an issue for you, you might consider not doing a paysite. An underfunded paysite is a money pit.

[refund]

I was 1 then :D hehehe
So I guess you are now looking at the mature market.

[smoothballs]

not complaining about the cost of having to prove my ID, its just the fact I cant do anything without it at the mo! :)

[refund]

not complaining about the cost of having to prove my ID, its just the fact I cant do anything without it at the mo! :)
its a world wide problem and getting worse by the week.

[SmithsMedia]

1. drivers license (I dont have one)

2.Passport (it ran out 4 years ago havent needed to renew it)

3.NI card (never got issued one when they came out!)

So how the fuck do I prove who I am? lol


To be blunt, if you want to get services from companies overseas to process your sales you need to get the above sorted out.

You NI number is nothing, it is not reconised as a valid ID, you need photo ID.

You can get a provistional driving licence which is acepted as valid photo ID and passport.

[SmithsMedia]

not complaining about the cost of having to prove my ID, its just the fact I cant do anything without it at the mo! :)

Dio a serarch for KYC - Know Your Cusrtomer, since 9/11 its been tightened even more.

No id no payment solution

[Elisha Jade]

So I guess you are now looking at the mature market.

A good 6 years to go I reckon, I'm a young looking 25 year old ;)

[Grisey]

A good 6 years to go I reckon, I'm a young looking 25 year old ;)
WTF i thought you were only 19/20 :bandb:

[Elisha Jade]

WTF i thought you were only 19/20

Yesss!!! Bring it on! :D Actually a few people said that in London :) :) Made my night!

[badbee]

Great post. I think anyone who runs a paysite has been there. BTW, these costs that you are complaining about are just a drop in the bucket. I think if this is an issue for you, you might consider not doing a paysite. An underfunded paysite is a money pit.

That's true of any business though, I run an electrical contractors as my day job, and I'm forever having to replace tools, or looking at unforeseen costs. It's one of the joys of being in business for yourself. I don't anticipate webmastering being any different in this regard.

[smoothballs]

thats exactly what it is! a business, treat it like a hobby and you wont make much! I have plans to evolve so will get started on them but I know its gonna take time and money...

[Grisey]

Yesss!!! Bring it on! :D Actually a few people said that in London :) :) Made my night!
You're gonna be one hot milf, bring it on :cheers2:

[WordsforHire]

I probably cant even get a internal flight in the uk cos of no ID!!!! how much is a drivers license these days? last time I got one i was 16 in 1982 think it was about £6 for a yearly provisional one...lol
I wasn't even a stain in my daddys pants back then! Gosh you are all a bunch of old gits huh