View Full Version : What you think of the lightspeen announcment
"Effective June 23, 2005, Lightspeedcash will no longer authorize affiliate use of SEXUALLY EXPLICIT content to promote our sites."
So if your require Non US webmasters, to maybe remake 100's of sites, galleries, pages, banners, maybe 100's and 100's of man hours, to risk loosing there accounts at TGP's and Link lists. For no advantage to them and for a law they are not breaking.
Adding to that
Not to mention the worth of good US webmasters who will comply. What if a US webmaster has a banner on a fully complient explicit site. They are maybe not going to get paid because they didnt make there fully complient site non explicit.
It seems that rules like this are only going to help some US webmasters, the ones who infact are not proffesional enough or creative enough to comply. Making all the Non US webmasters and US webmasters who are willing to comply or are creative enough not to, to be paying for them, buy maybe spending 100's of man hours remaking sites, pages and galleries, that could get them banned at TGP's and link lists.
Anyone who promotes lightspeed have any thoughts?
Yup, I dont think its going to be too dramatic a change for LS webmasters on account of most of their stuff being softcore. I am glad they stood up to make this announcement though rather than just hide away.
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"Failure to comply with this new requirement will result in the termination of your Lightspeedcash affiliate status, and the forfeiture of any outstanding earnings."
So there you are as an affiliate, using maybe the content a sponsor gave you, or content you bought yourself. They wont pay you outstanding earnings if you dont make your tottally legal site the same as some non creative US webmaster who doesnt want to go by the law of the land where he lives..
I take it Lightspeed doesnt want any Non US webmasters anymore
Yup, I dont think its going to be too dramatic a change for LS webmasters on account of most of their stuff being softcore. I am glad they stood up to make this announcement though rather than just hide away.
Softcore is still explicit and still has to follow the 2257 regs
from 2256
2) “sexually explicit conduct” means actual or simulated—
(A) sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex;
(B) bestiality;
(C) masturbation;
(D) sadistic or masochistic abuse; or
(E) lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person;
So I guess Titties are ok if you dont touch them. If you do it may fall into catagory (c)
The closest run thing on the list is masturbation, but most of the LS sites are so tepid Im not sure it would even class as that. Its been ages since I pushed them, but Raimi was the more risque one and she wasnt as popular as the others from what I could see.
The closest run thing on the list is masturbation, but most of the LS sites are so tepid Im not sure it would even class as that. Its been ages since I pushed them, but Raimi was the more risque one and she wasnt as popular as the others from what I could see.
That maybe the case. Im not sure, but that doesnt make it right that many non US webmasters may have to change whole sites, galleries, pages and more to get paid for previous work they have done, that dont break any rules, just to fit in with some US webmasters who dont want to comply. Just because Lightspeed have calculated that loosing them as webmasters is better for his business than being fair to them.
To Quote Steve from Lightspeed
"I am doing the best I can for my business. I expect you to do the same. If we can work together that's great. If not, that's ok too, there will be less competition for my loyal affiliates.
I win some. I lose some."
Johny, I think that Steve could have worded his post a little better and I think that you are both at cross purposses with each other. As a US teen program owner he is between a rock and a hard place as are the webmasters with a load of pages/galleries/content up online. I think that you will find a better description will be coming from several sources and programs over the next few days.
Johny, I think that Steve could have worded his post a little better and I think that you are both at cross purposses with each other. As a US teen program owner he is between a rock and a hard place as are the webmasters with a load of pages/galleries/content up online. I think that you will find a better description will be coming from several sources and programs over the next few days.
Maybe, Im not so sure though. I think the preasure is going to be there for US programs to try and make sure that everyone who doesnt comply, will be made to comply pure and simply to help non complying US webmasters..... But I could be wrong, he may not have meant that.
For those who havnt seen it on GFy its here. But please dont skim the thread either read it or dont bother. Look exactly what Steve is saying in reply to what I ask him http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=476823
He has to run his business within the laws that apply to him as do we all. I really cant see him or any other US program putting a multi million $ business at risk by doing anything other than how they have been advised.
He has to run his business within the laws that apply to him as do we all. I really cant see him or any other US program putting a multi million $ business at risk by doing anything other than how they have been advised.
I dont see what that has to do with anything?
Whos asking him not to run his business within the laws that apply to him?
What has laws that apply to him got to do with a webmaster that isnt breaking any laws in any country having to maybe do a shit load of work as well as risking both his TGP and link list partner accounts just so it makes it easier for US webmasters who dont want to comply with the laws in there land and keep proper records and get paid for monies they are owed?
I dont see what that has to do with anything?
Whos asking him not to run his business within the laws that apply to him?
Apart from the backdated content under the grandfather aspect that is how the laws apply to him.
Also a big part of this is that he (plus most other site owners/programs I suspect) are not going to be giving out full 2257 documentation to affiliates.
Apart from the backdated content under the grandfather aspect that is how the laws apply to him.
It doesnt. What if a webmaster is using his own content and complying with 2257? I honestly think you are misreading what hes saying. Maybe he will clarify this but what hes saying is quite clear unless he hasnt explaind himself correctly.
"Effective June 23, 2005, Lightspeedcash will no longer authorize affiliate use of SEXUALLY EXPLICIT content to promote our sites."
No mention of webmasters using lightspeeds content just "SEXUALLY EXPLICIT content "
He goes on to say "This policy APPLIES TO EVERYONE, not just our US webmasters. I won't put our US webmasters at a disadvantage." Which implies that by forcing everyone to comply, this has nothing to do with the law. It says this is a commercial desision to help US webmasters who dont want to comply.
Its a business desicion, nothing to do with the law as Steve said himself
"I am doing the best I can for my business. I expect you to do the same. If we can work together that's great. If not, that's ok too, there will be less competition for my loyal affiliates.
I win some. I lose some."
Also a big part of this is that he (plus most other site owners/programs I suspect) are not going to be giving out full 2257 documentation to affiliates.
Thats not what hes saying I agree with you on that. But what hes saying is hes not going to put US webmasters at a disadvantage by allowing Foreign webmasters to use any explicit content to promote his site. Its nothing to do with giving out 2257 docs to affiliates.
It doesnt. What if a webmaster is using his own content and complying with 2257? I honestly think you are misreading what hes saying. Maybe he will clarify this but what hes saying is quite clear unless he hasnt explaind himself correctly.
This is where I think you are at cross purposses with each other.
This is where I think you are at cross purposses with each other.
We'll see lets hope so
I'm not really going to comment on the above becuase I dont know much about it, however I do know that Steve from Lightspeed is a good man, and a even better business man, there is a reason he is doing this, its his business and we have to respect that. If we disagree with him then talk to him :)
This is not good for board drama, but good business. :smoke:
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